Cobb Stage 2 FMIC tune with stock IC in cold weather

WPG D33Z · 09-16-2012, 10:23 AM

It's starting to cool off up here in Canada so I decided to give the Cobb Stage 2 + map a try even though I'm on a stock IC. This map is incredible, the car felt really strong and drove like a champ!

My question is since I have the stock IC am I going to run into problems with this map or should I be ok since the outside temps are cool? My oil was sitting around 240 after 1.5 hours of highway driving with some spirited runs along the way.

Freon · 09-16-2012, 11:04 AM

There is more to an intercooler than the out temperature. Cobb and their tune can assume an aftermarket FMIC will have a lesser pressure drop, for instance.

It would be better to ask Cobb than post here, but I would tend to suggest against running one of their maps if you do not have the required engine modifications.

Lambobimmer · 09-16-2012, 02:19 PM

IMHO I think that you would be fine running that tune as long as you are not tracking the car.

Ænema · 09-16-2012, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Freon

There is more to an intercooler than the out temperature. Cobb and their tune can assume an aftermarket FMIC will have a lesser pressure drop, for instance.

It would be better to ask Cobb than post here, but I would tend to suggest against running one of their maps if you do not have the required engine modifications.

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I would suggest using ATR to take the OTS stage 2 map and add some timing rather than adding boost.

1&done · 09-16-2012, 03:32 PM

What's cheaper, repairing the motor if something gets damaged or buying a FMIC? I would invest in one, especially seeing you like stage 2. If you hear from COBB on this please let us know what they say. GL

135Pats · 09-16-2012, 05:56 PM

I'd also advise against running stage 2 maps without the proper mods, get an intercooler.

GTS Jeff · 08-14-2013, 08:45 AM

Datalog for CAT/IAT timing corrections...

Fun w/N54 · 08-14-2013, 09:45 PM

Better safe than sorry as others have stated. But the DME will protect the engine and adjust accordingly, when needed.

Only damaged engines I've read about on here were meth related fires and loss of oil to a cylinder on steep road course turns.

Fun w/N54 · 08-14-2013, 09:46 PM

And a few money shifts...can't forget those

RimasRS · 08-15-2013, 02:27 AM

Just dont do that...

weeeee · 08-15-2013, 08:34 AM

it's less than $1000... i don't know how the thought got past your synapses

woahitsholland · 08-16-2013, 04:25 PM

can he maybe run a stage 1+ intercooler map if he doesn't track the car at all and just juices the throttle here and there, with a stock intercooler??

i'm curious about this

COBB Tuning · 08-16-2013, 06:21 PM

Guys, please don't do this. We list recommended vs required mods in our map notes for a reason. We are only looking out for the safety of your car.

If you want more power with your modifications, consult a Pro Tuner or use ATR to create your own map. The OTS maps are specifically designed for the mods listed in the map notes.

-Josh

09-16-2012, 10:23 AM	#1
WPG D33Z First Lieutenant 23 Rep 316 Posts Drives: 2008 135i vert Cobb Stage2 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Winnipeg, Canada iTrader: (1)	Cobb Stage 2 FMIC tune with stock IC in cold weather It's starting to cool off up here in Canada so I decided to give the Cobb Stage 2 + map a try even though I'm on a stock IC. This map is incredible, the car felt really strong and drove like a champ! My question is since I have the stock IC am I going to run into problems with this map or should I be ok since the outside temps are cool? My oil was sitting around 240 after 1.5 hours of highway driving with some spirited runs along the way.
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Freon Major 81 Rep 1,051 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Indianapolis iTrader: (3)	There is more to an intercooler than the out temperature. Cobb and their tune can assume an aftermarket FMIC will have a lesser pressure drop, for instance. It would be better to ask Cobb than post here, but I would tend to suggest against running one of their maps if you do not have the required engine modifications. __________________ 2009 BMW 135i 6MT Sport, AFE intake, Cobb AP, Apex 18x8.5+9.5, 255/275 PSS
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Lambobimmer Major 298 Rep 1,473 Posts Drives: 2022 X3 M40i, 2018 TTRS Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tarheel iTrader: (14)	IMHO I think that you would be fine running that tune as long as you are not tracking the car.
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1&done Lieutenant Colonel 247 Rep 1,585 Posts Drives: 2011 VO 1M Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Jupiter, FL iTrader: (28) Garage List 2010 Porsche 911 GT3 [10.00] 2021 BMW X5 SD40i [0.00] 2023 Toyota TRD Pro [0.00] 2011 BMW 1M [9.83] 2014 Ford Raptor [0.00] 2005 Ariel Atom 2 [0.00] 2008 135i SOLD [10.00]	What's cheaper, repairing the motor if something gets damaged or buying a FMIC? I would invest in one, especially seeing you like stage 2. If you hear from COBB on this please let us know what they say. GL __________________ ///1M #643 of #740
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135Pats Major General 456 Rep 6,478 Posts Drives: A few BMWs Join Date: May 2012 Location: Maryland iTrader: (3)	I'd also advise against running stage 2 maps without the proper mods, get an intercooler. __________________ E88 N54 Alpinweiss/Coral Red/Motiv HTA 3586r Tial .82AR/Other stuff...652WHP F30 N55 XDrive EBII
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Fun w/N54 Lieutenant 40 Rep 592 Posts Drives: '11 E92 335is AW/CR/DCT Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: WI iTrader: (2)	Better safe than sorry as others have stated. But the DME will protect the engine and adjust accordingly, when needed. Only damaged engines I've read about on here were meth related fires and loss of oil to a cylinder on steep road course turns. __________________ Evolution Racewerks FMIC and Charge Pipe with TIAL-Q. Wedge Tuned 93 Oct, K&N Panel, Conti DWS 245/275.
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Fun w/N54 Lieutenant 40 Rep 592 Posts Drives: '11 E92 335is AW/CR/DCT Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: WI iTrader: (2)	And a few money shifts...can't forget those __________________ Evolution Racewerks FMIC and Charge Pipe with TIAL-Q. Wedge Tuned 93 Oct, K&N Panel, Conti DWS 245/275.
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RimasRS Colonel 85 Rep 2,438 Posts Drives: BMW X3 SD Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	Just dont do that...
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weeeee Private First Class 40 Rep 133 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: 757 iTrader: (1)	it's less than $1000... i don't know how the thought got past your synapses
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woahitsholland Private 5 Rep 73 Posts Drives: 2010 135i Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (0)	can he maybe run a stage 1+ intercooler map if he doesn't track the car at all and just juices the throttle here and there, with a stock intercooler?? i'm curious about this
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08-16-2013, 06:21 PM	#13
COBB Tuning Major 233 Rep 1,051 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (0)	Guys, please don't do this. We list recommended vs required mods in our map notes for a reason. We are only looking out for the safety of your car. If you want more power with your modifications, consult a Pro Tuner or use ATR to create your own map. The OTS maps are specifically designed for the mods listed in the map notes. -Josh
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