VRSF 3'' Downpipes

[1-2MANY]

Hey guys, just wondering if anyone with a N54 1er has tried these. Seems like they're quite a hit over at E90post being well priced and good fitment.

http://www.vrspeedfactory.com/bmw/e9...in54ex100.html

[John Dempsey]

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[rader1]

If it fits a 335 it'll fit our 1s. Great price with good quality, i'd give 'em a shot if i didn't already have AAs installed.

[My135]

AR has the best 3" DP in term of quality and best material used. Most DP used thinner stainless steel tube and therefore the welds could break over a period of time. The cheaper alternative is CPE DP and their build quality is excellent with virtually no welding joints, but they are only 2.5" only.

[rader1]

AR's behavior on e90post alone is reason enough to not buy their products. Not to mention they charge $900 for a set of pipes that other companies have duplicated the quality of for $300(or MORE) cheaper. Not to mention the OP asked about VRSF.

[ErvGotti]

I will more than likely purchase these DP. Quality looks good and from the reviews fitment is good. And these are what DP's should cost for our cars. I hate when people buy into the BS that companies spill about costs, when your two pieces of metal cost more than headers for a V8 which has signifcantly more material then I know I'm getting charged the BMW tax.

[chachacha28]

dont all dp's end up being 2.5" at the outlet? whats the point of having them 3" in the middle? i have AA's on my car, but if i could do it again, id go with 2.5" racelands. its a piece of pipe.

Some people are fine paying the BMW tax on all these aftermarket parts i guess. Their money, not mine.

[RnmEvo9]

Originally Posted by ezeedee

dont all dp's end up being 2.5" at the outlet? whats the point of having them 3" in the middle? i have AA's on my car, but if i could do it again, id go with 2.5" racelands. its a piece of pipe.

Some people are fine paying the BMW tax on all these aftermarket parts i guess. Their money, not mine.

Yeah they all have to be 2.5 at the outlet. Some people just like spending more money on brand parts than others. I have racelands on my car and I could not be any happier as to how they perform (best $200 I've spent). However, if I was in the market to buy a new set of downpipes, VRSF would be my number 1 choice now based on price (I don't like PLM's).

[Cleanest135i]

I just bought some today so as soon as I get them in I will take pictures and do a writeup.

[Edogg218]

Originally Posted by Cleanest135i

I just bought some today so as soon as I get them in I will take pictures and do a writeup.

Where did you buy them?

[Cleanest135i]

Originally Posted by Edogg218

Where did you buy them?

From their website.

[rader1]

if you order TODAY you get the intro price, order tomorrow and it goes to retail price. Even at retail it's a damn good deal. Ohh, and they've got a FMIC kit and CBE in the works also. VRSF is looking to be the best thing to happen to the N54 platform in a while.

[evilstib]

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[Auburn 6]

I just ordered a set today, I'll update with my impressions upon arrival/install.

[Rodzilla]

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[eric@helix]

From an installer's standpoint, the ARs have better fitment and quality (specifically material thickness) than the China manufactured ones like RISS (which I have on my car) and other brands on Ebay and the internets. From the pictures, these look to be more of the same China ones, which means nice welds, thin materials, inconsistent fitment, but ultimately good performance. I would agree that there is risk of cracking over time.

Although 3" pipes do transition down to 2.5", if it's a good transition, you will make more power than the Racelands, which have a ridiculous 90 degree inner radius near the turbo flange. I don't know why anybody would bother to produce them as 'performance parts'. Alex from Helix bought a set for his 335, and after taking one look at them, never installed them. You're better off with the stock DPs.

Bottom line is that if these VRSF DPs are the same as the China-made various brands including RISS and others, once you wrestle them in, you'll make good power and lots of noise for a very reasonable price. Just keep an eye on them for cracks over time.

[jgoldsmith729]

Originally Posted by eric@helix

From an installer's standpoint, the ARs have better fitment and quality (specifically material thickness) than the China manufactured ones like RISS (which I have on my car) and other brands on Ebay and the internets. From the pictures, these look to be more of the same China ones, which means nice welds, thin materials, inconsistent fitment, but ultimately good performance. I would agree that there is risk of cracking over time.

Although 3" pipes do transition down to 2.5", if it's a good transition, you will make more power than the Racelands, which have a ridiculous 90 degree inner radius near the turbo flange. I don't know why anybody would bother to produce them as 'performance parts'. Alex from Helix bought a set for his 335, and after taking one look at them, never installed them. You're better off with the stock DPs.

Bottom line is that if these VRSF DPs are the same as the China-made various brands including RISS and others, once you wrestle them in, you'll make good power and lots of noise for a very reasonable price. Just keep an eye on them for cracks over time.

Shortsighted input IMO. Please refer to e90 thread where the VRSF pipes have received quite a bit of praise. Sure some Chinese reproduced parts use lower quality metal, have fit issues, and design flaws, but we are talking about a metal pipe for C's sake! You act like the stock ones are made from diamonds! I wonder who makes the best intercooler?

[Auburn 6]

I received an email from VRSF today stating that downpipes are out of stock and they are expecting to have them in 3-4 weeks. They offered to refund my money for the hassle, or I can wait until they come in. However, they did mention that once they are back in stock the price will be raised to $435. They're currently selling at $385. Just a heads up for anybody on the fence about ordering.

[eric@helix]

Originally Posted by jgoldsmith729

Shortsighted input IMO. Please refer to e90 thread where the VRSF pipes have received quite a bit of praise. Sure some Chinese reproduced parts use lower quality metal, have fit issues, and design flaws, but we are talking about a metal pipe for C's sake! You act like the stock ones are made from diamonds! I wonder who makes the best intercooler?

Re-read my post carefully. I am responding from an installer's standpoint--one who has had WWE wrestling matches with ill-fitting pipes that remain loaded when installed because of poor fitment. When a pipe is loaded and constructed of thin metal, it is at risk of cracking. Nowhere do I say that the VRSF pipes do this, since I haven't seen a set of these particular pipes in the shop. I'm sorry that you were offended.

Not all metal pipes are created equal, as you state above. Metal quality and wall thickness have a great bearing on the durability of an exhaust pipe. The wall thickness of several of the donwpipes available are quite thin, which reduces their duty cycle, especially when the fitment is poor, and the exhaust is tweaked. So not all metal pipes are created equal. If the stock ones were made from diamonds, I'd be down on jeweler's row, selling the several dozen that I have removed from cars--experience that qualifies me to make the above judgement.

[Cleanest135i]

My tracking number says I should get them tomorrow which is a bit strange didnt think they delivered Fedex ground on Sat but we'll see. I will take some pictures and post them as soon as they come in and then more of my install and thoughts on them.

[evilstib]

Originally Posted by eric@helix

Re-read my post carefully. I am responding from an installer's standpoint--one who has had WWE wrestling matches with ill-fitting pipes that remain loaded when installed because of poor fitment. When a pipe is loaded and constructed of thin metal, it is at risk of cracking. Nowhere do I say that the VRSF pipes do this, since I haven't seen a set of these particular pipes in the shop. I'm sorry that you were offended.

Not all metal pipes are created equal, as you state above. Metal quality and wall thickness have a great bearing on the durability of an exhaust pipe. The wall thickness of several of the donwpipes available are quite thin, which reduces their duty cycle, especially when the fitment is poor, and the exhaust is tweaked. So not all metal pipes are created equal. If the stock ones were made from diamonds, I'd be down on jeweler's row, selling the several dozen that I have removed from cars--experience that qualifies me to make the above judgement.

Amen!

[int2str]

Anybody heard from "VRSF" this week?
Trying to get in touch, but doesn't answer email or phone...