pilot super sport

bobbyd1961 · 08-07-2011, 05:21 AM

i need new tires and i read the super sports are better than the PS2. if thats the case then why wouldnt michelin make a size for the M3? and if they are when will they be available? it seems i cant even find ps2s in 265/35/19s. what gives?

MRSSIIM3 · 08-07-2011, 06:33 AM

ps2s in that size are on national backorder

im running 255/35/19 and 275/35/19 on my zcp and i also have 12 and 15mm spacers and i dont rub at all

pss are definitely better than ps2s especially at extremely high speeds and turns

gthal · 08-07-2011, 07:01 AM

Because the PSS are new and all of the sizes aren't out yet... and also because they didn't make this tire JUST for the M3

JCtx · 08-07-2011, 11:55 PM

The good news is PSS are reportedly better than PS2s, even though they're a notch below the PS2s: ultra-high-performance summer vs max summer. And they have a tread wear rating of 300, vs 220 for the PS2s. Should be a good tire, but it wouldn't surprise me Michelin is hyping it because it's new

. We need independent tests

.

Z K · 08-08-2011, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by elp_jc

The good news is PSS are reportedly better than PS2s, even though they're a notch below the PS2s: ultra-high-performance summer vs max summer. And they have a tread wear rating of 300, vs 220 for the PS2s. Should be a good tire, but it wouldn't surprise me Michelin is hyping it because it's new

. We need independent tests

.

The PSS is the same class as the PS2. They are both Max Performance.

SenorFunkyPants · 08-08-2011, 03:50 AM

The PSS is a significant step up in traction and grip (dry and wet) over the PS2.
Believe the hype.

JCtx · 08-08-2011, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Z K

The PSS is the same class as the PS2. They are both Max Performance.

Don't know where I read that, probably due to their being better in the wet and lasting longer, but Tirerack has them classified as 'Max Performance Summer' indeed. And being a replacement for the PS2, it only makes sense. Thank you for the correction.

bobbyd1961 · 08-14-2011, 08:16 AM

the ps 2s 265/35s 19s are not available (backordered with no date) the super sports dont come in 265s . that leaves me to continentals. thanks michelin! jerks

gthal · 08-14-2011, 08:21 AM

I would buy 275/35s in the rear with the PSS way before going OEM size with Continentals. The 275/35 work perfectly in the rear... ideal if you go 255/35 front but still great with a 245/35 front.

dngo · 08-14-2011, 08:59 AM

Tire Rack had the 265/35-19 PSS in stock when I looked on Friday. You can get a full set in OEM sizes.

Dave

bobbyd1961 · 08-14-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by gthal

I would buy 275/35s in the rear with the PSS way before going OEM size with Continentals. The 275/35 work perfectly in the rear... ideal if you go 255/35 front but still great with a 245/35 front.

the 275s an 255s fit the rims?

quads · 08-14-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbyd1961

the 275s an 255s fit the rims?

275/30/19 295/30/19 fit my zcp's

saeedg48 · 08-14-2011, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MRSSIIM3

ps2s in that size are on national backorder

im running 255/35/19 and 275/35/19 on my zcp and i also have 12 and 15mm spacers and i dont rub at all

pss are definitely better than ps2s especially at extremely high speeds and turns

i have the PSS's and they're much better at higher speeds.
hitting 165 is a synch and you can take turns much faster.

what i did notice was that the side walls don't take as much pressure while power sliding.

saeedg48 · 08-14-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 4sevens.com

275/30/19 295/30/19 fit my zcp's

that's hawt!

gthal · 08-14-2011, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyd1961

the 275s an 255s fit the rims?

Yes.

bobbyd1961 · 08-15-2011, 07:49 PM

thanks guys, i will call tire rack for the 275 rear and 255 fronts. the consensus is they are a better quality tire and they are substantially less expensive.

bobbyd1961 · 08-18-2011, 07:14 PM

i notice the super sports are 2 pounds heavier than the ps2s. will this reduce speed and performance?

bobbyd1961 · 08-18-2011, 07:56 PM

the super sports are 2pounds heaier. any issues with that?

N8dawg · 08-18-2011, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyd1961

the super sports are 2pounds heaier. any issues with that?

They weigh exactly the same according to tirerack but even if it would be negligible.

bobbyd1961 · 08-19-2011, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by N8dawg

They weigh exactly the same according to tirerack but even if it would be negligible.

i thought tire rack said super sport 28lbs and ps2s 26?

bobbyd1961 · 08-19-2011, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyd1961

i thought tire rack said super sport 28lbs and ps2s 26?

i stand corrected: they are the same 27lbs.

ss134 · 08-19-2011, 04:08 PM

Anyone know if the PSS are due to be fitted on E9X M3 from the factory or is it still PS2 and Contis???

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MRSSIIM3 General 149 Rep 1,348 Posts Drives: M4 SO Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NY iTrader: (5)	ps2s in that size are on national backorder im running 255/35/19 and 275/35/19 on my zcp and i also have 12 and 15mm spacers and i dont rub at all pss are definitely better than ps2s especially at extremely high speeds and turns
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gthal Major General 1904 Rep 5,678 Posts Drives: 2018 340i xDrive Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada iTrader: (2)	Because the PSS are new and all of the sizes aren't out yet... and also because they didn't make this tire JUST for the M3 __________________ 2020 X3 M40i \| Black \| Current DD 2020 C8 Corvette \| Z51 \| Torch Red ... built and waiting for delivery 2016 M2 \| Long Beach Blue \| 6MT 2015 M4 \| Austin Yellow \| DCT 2012 MB C63AMG \| 2011 E92 M3 \| 2010 E92 M3
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bobbyd1961 Banned 43 Rep 2,406 Posts Drives: 2009 M3 sedan LeMans Blue Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: new jersey iTrader: (0)	the ps 2s 265/35s 19s are not available (backordered with no date) the super sports dont come in 265s . that leaves me to continentals. thanks michelin! jerks
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gthal Major General 1904 Rep 5,678 Posts Drives: 2018 340i xDrive Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada iTrader: (2)	I would buy 275/35s in the rear with the PSS way before going OEM size with Continentals. The 275/35 work perfectly in the rear... ideal if you go 255/35 front but still great with a 245/35 front. __________________ 2020 X3 M40i \| Black \| Current DD 2020 C8 Corvette \| Z51 \| Torch Red ... built and waiting for delivery 2016 M2 \| Long Beach Blue \| 6MT 2015 M4 \| Austin Yellow \| DCT 2012 MB C63AMG \| 2011 E92 M3 \| 2010 E92 M3
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bobbyd1961 Banned 43 Rep 2,406 Posts Drives: 2009 M3 sedan LeMans Blue Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: new jersey iTrader: (0)	thanks guys, i will call tire rack for the 275 rear and 255 fronts. the consensus is they are a better quality tire and they are substantially less expensive.
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