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      07-11-2011, 09:01 AM   #1
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Cool Oil Catch Can Review - HPF vs BSH

I have been running the BSH catch can in my car for over 18 months. During that time I have put in 8+ track days, trip down to MFest and lots of spirited driving on the way to work! I keep reading in the forums that their are lots of folks that arent getting any oil collected in their cans, partly due to design and location. I can honestly say that I have NEVER had to empty my OCC and am amazed that for 18 months of being installed that less than a 1/4 cup of oil was in it. I did find that the hose connector had a leak and was blowing a small amount oil out before making it to the OCC, but still extremely disappointed with the results.

As many of you know, being local to HPF I decided to swap out my BSH OCC for the new HPF OCC. Now location being a limited factor is the same, and yes the heat from the turbos is less than ideal. The HPF can is constructed much differently and is the same design they use on their E46 M3 and has proven to be effective. First off the installation was a breeze...the longest part for me was converting everything back to OEM for the HPF tubing...it all just snaps right into place. I also liked the fact that the bottom half of the HPF OCC comes off, made it nice for installing the bracket and will come in handy when needing to empty.

The quality and install ease where hands down better with the HPF OCC. Yes the HPF OCC is $$, but it is standard HPF quality which speaks for itself. So my test is going to be over the next month to see how much oil this can collects. I have a few track events at the end of July and mid August and will report back. So far, so good.

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      07-11-2011, 01:18 PM   #2
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I also had a BSH (and sold it), and this HPF unit looks like a great OCC. However, I'd really like to know how restrictive it is. If it's anything like the other OCC's on the market, I'd rather just use my FMIC to catch the oil . That said, maybe HPF actually solved this problem and their OCC isn't creating positive pressure compared to stock, which would be great!
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      07-11-2011, 02:08 PM   #3
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I also had a BSH (and sold it), and this HPF unit looks like a great OCC. However, I'd really like to know how restrictive it is. If it's anything like the other OCC's on the market, I'd rather just use my FMIC to catch the oil . That said, maybe HPF actually solved this problem and their OCC isn't creating positive pressure compared to stock, which would be great!
they have some pressure testing vids, but the true test is real world so I will keep you posted
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I have the BSH - traps zip. It desperately needs filtration material.

HPF, does it open up?
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      07-11-2011, 10:29 PM   #5
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I have the BSH - traps zip. It desperately needs filtration material.

HPF, does it open up?
the bottom half unscrews so easy to empty...VERY nice!
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Nice T. I'll have to get me one of these. If it's anything like my FMIC it's going to be very nice. Any idea on price?
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Nice T. I'll have to get me one of these. If it's anything like my FMIC it's going to be very nice. Any idea on price?
i know they have been working on that. from what i have heard there are gonna be 2 models available for better price points. will get more info for ya soon.
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i know they have been working on that. from what i have heard there are gonna be 2 models available for better price points. will get more info for ya soon.
Interested as well and will be looking forward to your reviews.
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i know they have been working on that. from what i have heard there are gonna be 2 models available for better price points. will get more info for ya soon.
Subscribed. Keep us posted
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I have been running the BSH catch can in my car for over 18 months. During that time I have put in 8+ track days, trip down to MFest and lots of spirited driving on the way to work! I keep reading in the forums that their are lots of folks that arent getting any oil collected in their cans, partly due to design and location. I can honestly say that I have NEVER had to empty my OCC and am amazed that for 18 months of being installed that less than a 1/4 cup of oil was in it. I did find that the hose connector had a leak and was blowing a small amount oil out before making it to the OCC, but still extremely disappointed with the results.

As many of you know, being local to HPF I decided to swap out my BSH OCC for the new HPF OCC. Now location being a limited factor is the same, and yes the heat from the turbos is less than ideal. The HPF can is constructed much differently and is the same design they use on their E46 M3 and has proven to be effective. First off the installation was a breeze...the longest part for me was converting everything back to OEM for the HPF tubing...it all just snaps right into place. I also liked the fact that the bottom half of the HPF OCC comes off, made it nice for installing the bracket and will come in handy when needing to empty.

The quality and install ease where hands down better with the HPF OCC. Yes the HPF OCC is $$, but it is standard HPF quality which speaks for itself. So my test is going to be over the next month to see how much oil this can collects. I have a few track events at the end of July and mid August and will report back. So far, so good.

I've always debated whether to get an OCC because of these types of reviews. With this in mind, do you guys think that an OCC is worth the investment?
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I've always debated whether to get an OCC because of these types of reviews. With this in mind, do you guys think that an OCC is worth the investment?
PM sent. OCC theory makes sense. The BSH was a waste of $$$ in my application and there are lots of design flaws of the can itself etc. Will report back after more usage of the HPF OCC
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Any oil collected is a bonus though......would be interesting to know if what the BSH OCC collects is any different to the HPF......maybe that is all the oil there is to collect, who knows ?
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Any oil collected is a bonus though......would be interesting to know if what the BSH OCC collects is any different to the HPF......maybe that is all the oil there is to collect, who knows ?
exactly. The BSH connections are not as rugged and had some leaking around them so I imagine oil was getting lost there too.
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PM sent. OCC theory makes sense. The BSH was a waste of $$$ in my application and there are lots of design flaws of the can itself etc. Will report back after more usage of the HPF OCC
Curious on your thoughts as well.....
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Take a look at the PCV thread on e90post...don't go with this OCC...they haven't done their homework here
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Take a look at the PCV thread on e90post...don't go with this OCC...they haven't done their homework here
Can you post a link please? lol
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my BSH does diddly.
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Take a look at the PCV thread on e90post...don't go with this OCC...they haven't done their homework here
I read this, what it seems the issue is, is not having a OCC but the fact that we need to verify that the CFM flow trough the OCC piping is enough not to restrict the design of the car, which could be very bad.
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