m3 + unplowed roads = fail

nitro · 02-02-2011, 08:33 AM

unplowed dvp sb was brutal in the m3 this am. freak'n corrollas zipping past me.

michelin alpins pa3's are good for cold dry roads.. not so much for snowy ones though. hahahaha.

bobbyz · 02-02-2011, 08:38 AM

I didnt have too much trouble getting into work today. I have Hankook Icebears. Both of us have performance oriented winter tires, which are not the best for todays weather, but the only thing that would have got me stuck would have been ground clearence. Even got up hills without too much drama.

Gearhead999s · 02-02-2011, 08:42 AM

Yep!I used my E46 M3 in the winter and it was a very frustrating experiance on a real snow day.That is why we always have at least 1 4x4 or awd in the household.Our street is always on of the last to get plowed and a couple of winters ago my wifes 335 scraped for most of the way in from the main road for a lot of the winter.

nitro · 02-02-2011, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbyz

I didnt have too much trouble getting into work today. I have Hankook Icebears. Both of us have performance oriented winter tires, which are not the best for todays weather, but the only thing that would have got me stuck would have been ground clearence. Even got up hills without too much drama.

agreed. the only real drama was on my street where the snow was piled pretty high. got stuck a couple of times.. had to turn off traction and spin the wheels out of that crap. otherwise not too bad, but a bit of white knuckling up the hills on dvp. It's my first rwd so it takes a bit of getting used too. overall i'm pleased at how it performed today. but I have to tell you.. my next set of winters will be a dedicated snow ice variant!

sharo7390 · 02-02-2011, 09:00 AM

I said screw it and took the day off

Gearhead999s · 02-02-2011, 09:06 AM

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I said screw it and took the day off

Yep working from home as my boss decided yesterday that today was a snow day

kristobias · 02-02-2011, 09:52 AM

WFH day for me. Made it to Starbucks with no probs on the 19" snows. The car really surprises me sometimes. Had an STI before which was super capable but this thing really is not that bad in the snow.

enfield · 02-02-2011, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nitro

unplowed dvp sb was brutal in the m3 this am. freak'n corrollas zipping past me.

michelin alpins pa3's are good for cold dry roads.. not so much for snowy ones though. hahahaha.

Wrong tires my friend. I had Pilot Alpins and tossed them about 3 weeks ago because I got stuck on December 8th in London when it snowed like CRAZY!

I now have Nokian Hakka R's and I had no drama getting out of my unplowed subdivision. The bottom was scraping the snow.

Gearhead999s · 02-02-2011, 12:24 PM

I decided to make my way into work for a while and brought my little buddy!There is virtually no traffic on the roads!

kristobias · 02-02-2011, 01:23 PM

Today

UNNATRAL · 02-02-2011, 01:55 PM

how did ur cars handle todays dump guys?

Jaypod · 02-02-2011, 01:56 PM

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how did ur cars handle todays dump guys?

Been sitting in my garage all day. I will take the SUV if I need to go anywhere.

Although maybe a little drifting around the neighbourhood would be fun

kristobias · 02-02-2011, 02:38 PM

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how did ur cars handle todays dump guys?

DSC off, sideways was real nice

nitro · 02-02-2011, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by enfield

Wrong tires my friend. I had Pilot Alpins and tossed them about 3 weeks ago because I got stuck on December 8th in London when it snowed like CRAZY!

I now have Nokian Hakka R's and I had no drama getting out of my unplowed subdivision. The bottom was scraping the snow.

+1,000,000.. that's what i need. some hardcore ice tires. I used to run yokohama ice guards on my last car and they were amazing in the snow and ice. these pa3's.. the side profile looks like a summer tire... Don't get me wrong, they have been awesome to date (in the cold). but today's snow really accentuated their shortcoming when it comes to the white stuff. Nokians, huh. I will give them a try.

Jaypod · 02-02-2011, 05:06 PM

I personally find that for the amount of snow we get a performance oriented snow tire works well. Can count on one hand how many times you would drive on heavy snow. I guess I dont drive my car those days so I dont worry about it. I had PA3's and like them. I have Sottozerros now and like them as well.

nitro · 02-02-2011, 05:20 PM

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I personally find that for the amount of snow we get a performance oriented snow tire works well. Can count on one hand how many times you would drive on heavy snow. I guess I dont drive my car those days so I dont worry about it. I had PA3's and like them. I have Sottozerros now and like them as well.

fair point. and i agree. these days we don't get many days where you really need a dedicated snow/ice tire. but dammmn that one time it happens..... even if it is for a day, i don't mind more hardcore snow tires. In the winter time i take it fairly easy on the m3 so don't really need the performance. And i don't mind the noise and the mushy feeling you get on non-perf snows. makes spring time so much better when you finally put the summers back on!

sitting at work.... thinking about going home now. hopefully they plowed my street.. probably not though.

tomob63 · 02-02-2011, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by enfield

Wrong tires my friend. I had Pilot Alpins and tossed them about 3 weeks ago because I got stuck on December 8th in London when it snowed like CRAZY!

I now have Nokian Hakka R's and I had no drama getting out of my unplowed subdivision. The bottom was scraping the snow.

I have PA2's on my M3 E90 and hate them. Chicago just got 20 inches and I'm going to do the only thing I can do, which is look at adjusting pressure, and throwing 2 bags of sand on front of the rear axles.

gthal · 02-02-2011, 06:19 PM

To be honest, I don't know how the PA3, PA2 and Sottozero get such rave reviews. Granted they are amazing on cold dry pavement but they are not even close to OK in deep snow and ice. People who say they have driven them in 4+ inches of snow and are happy make me scratch my head. I have driven in Canadian winters my entire life with many rwd cars so I think I know what I'm doing and have never really had a problem. With the PA3 I don't trust the car in anything more than a light snow. I am switching to either LM-60s or Hakka's next winter for sure.

MaxL · 02-02-2011, 07:31 PM

Driving on stock 19" with Blizzak LM65s is just fine. Fresh fluffy snow is the worst, slush is difficult, and black ice and packed snow are not a problem at all. In fact, on ice I felt more confident in M3 with Blizzacks than in G35x (AWD) with fresh all season tires. I actually went to Blue Mountain one day with 15+cm of snow falling that day without any difficulty, which was a bit of a surprise to me.

My only problem so far was bottoming out in the lane near garage entrance. I think M3's biggest issue is low ground clearance. Other than that, it is great in winter - electronics do wonders, and it's very easy to control.

2thdr · 02-02-2011, 09:34 PM

Dunlop Wintersport M3's...can't be stopped.

lebreeze · 02-02-2011, 09:50 PM

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Dunlop Wintersport M3's...can't be stopped.

I have dunlops on my c63 and usually have no problem. But I went and borrowed my bro's range after last night. Just because of the lack of clearance.

OverDrive · 02-02-2011, 10:21 PM

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Dunlop Wintersport M3's...can't be stopped.

+1

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nitro Private First Class 11 Rep 144 Posts Drives: 2010 E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: TORONTO iTrader: (0)	m3 + unplowed roads = fail unplowed dvp sb was brutal in the m3 this am. freak'n corrollas zipping past me. michelin alpins pa3's are good for cold dry roads.. not so much for snowy ones though. hahahaha. __________________ 2010 jzb e92
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bobbyz First Lieutenant 13 Rep 311 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	I didnt have too much trouble getting into work today. I have Hankook Icebears. Both of us have performance oriented winter tires, which are not the best for todays weather, but the only thing that would have got me stuck would have been ground clearence. Even got up hills without too much drama.
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Gearhead999s Major General 817 Rep 7,887 Posts Drives: RR Velar R=Dynamic M2C R1200GS Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Yep!I used my E46 M3 in the winter and it was a very frustrating experiance on a real snow day.That is why we always have at least 1 4x4 or awd in the household.Our street is always on of the last to get plowed and a couple of winters ago my wifes 335 scraped for most of the way in from the main road for a lot of the winter.
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kristobias First Lieutenant 293 Rep 313 Posts Drives: M2CS Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Toronto iTrader: (4)	WFH day for me. Made it to Starbucks with no probs on the 19" snows. The car really surprises me sometimes. Had an STI before which was super capable but this thing really is not that bad in the snow. __________________ 17 X5D 70 2002
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Jaypod Brigadier General 125 Rep 4,971 Posts Drives: Frozen M3, AM V8V, 991 GT3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Toronto iTrader: (7)	I personally find that for the amount of snow we get a performance oriented snow tire works well. Can count on one hand how many times you would drive on heavy snow. I guess I dont drive my car those days so I dont worry about it. I had PA3's and like them. I have Sottozerros now and like them as well.
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gthal Major General 1904 Rep 5,678 Posts Drives: 2018 340i xDrive Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada iTrader: (2)	To be honest, I don't know how the PA3, PA2 and Sottozero get such rave reviews. Granted they are amazing on cold dry pavement but they are not even close to OK in deep snow and ice. People who say they have driven them in 4+ inches of snow and are happy make me scratch my head. I have driven in Canadian winters my entire life with many rwd cars so I think I know what I'm doing and have never really had a problem. With the PA3 I don't trust the car in anything more than a light snow. I am switching to either LM-60s or Hakka's next winter for sure. __________________ 2020 X3 M40i \| Black \| Current DD 2020 C8 Corvette \| Z51 \| Torch Red ... built and waiting for delivery 2016 M2 \| Long Beach Blue \| 6MT 2015 M4 \| Austin Yellow \| DCT 2012 MB C63AMG \| 2011 E92 M3 \| 2010 E92 M3
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MaxL Captain 69 Rep 957 Posts Drives: E90 M3, Cayenne T, 991 GT3 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (0)	Driving on stock 19" with Blizzak LM65s is just fine. Fresh fluffy snow is the worst, slush is difficult, and black ice and packed snow are not a problem at all. In fact, on ice I felt more confident in M3 with Blizzacks than in G35x (AWD) with fresh all season tires. I actually went to Blue Mountain one day with 15+cm of snow falling that day without any difficulty, which was a bit of a surprise to me. My only problem so far was bottoming out in the lane near garage entrance. I think M3's biggest issue is low ground clearance. Other than that, it is great in winter - electronics do wonders, and it's very easy to control.
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2thdr Lieutenant 59 Rep 553 Posts Drives: '18 Macan GTS/'18 GT3/''21 X5M Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta iTrader: (0)	Dunlop Wintersport M3's...can't be stopped.
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