Best Toyo Tire for the Z4M?

DarkstarZero · 11-09-2010, 04:03 PM

I won an $800 certificate for Toyo tires! But Toyo was never even a choice for me when looking at tires for my Z4M, I was deciding between the PS2s and StarSpecs. I chose the PS2s because they're the best over-all and on sale. So what Toyo tire is comparable to the PS2s?

If there's nothing really that good for the Z4M, then I'll just use this to buy my gf tires for her Mini Cooper S.

Thanks!

cmark8 · 11-09-2010, 05:14 PM

Toyo T1R is a very good tire for our Z4M. Not too sure if it's comparable to the PS2s, but they're very decent and they will definitely last you longer than the PS2.

Diokaef · 11-09-2010, 06:11 PM

^I had those before and I really like it.

The HACK · 11-09-2010, 06:28 PM

R888.

cmark8 · 11-09-2010, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The HACK

R888.

No doubt about it... but it melts like butter... and you'll have to change tires like you change underwear... HAHAHA! R888's treadwear is 100 while PS2 is 220! Depends what are you aiming for... street or track driving. Street=T1R... Track=R888

Diokaef · 11-09-2010, 10:23 PM

^indeed

krnnerdboy · 11-09-2010, 10:34 PM

I've got r888's but it's not my daily...just get your g/f tires and get her off the runflats....t1rs are pretty much your only choice for toyos

DarkstarZero · 11-12-2010, 07:38 PM

The M isn't my daily driver any more. It's now my weekend/fun trips/track/autocross car. In that case, should I get the R888s? My only concern is them wearing away in 5,000 miles or the tires making the car abnormally uncomfortable when I'm taking my gf out to dinner.

silversprint · 11-14-2010, 03:16 AM

They make the R1R but it's not available in 275. Choses are 225, 245, 265, I would go with 245 front 265 rear. Those are the sizes on my car now and work well.

cmark8 · 11-29-2010, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by silversprint

They make the R1R but it's not available in 275. Choses are 225, 245, 265, I would go with 245 front 265 rear. Those are the sizes on my car now and work well.

I'm running 255/35 all around for my track setup with R1R! there's a lot of grip... and it's ok for DD'ing... but decided not to.

onelove · 11-29-2010, 09:32 AM

I've had good luck with T1R, great performance tire that handles great in the rain.

flat_out · 12-02-2010, 04:20 PM

R888's are by far the most grippy tyre i've had on the M. Mine too is a track/ week end car so don't do that many miles on the road. I use a set per year covering c6-8k miles.

BTW, they can be quite noisy

Master Apex · 12-13-2010, 07:54 PM

8 months of ownership,
I have tried Star Spec 245/275, pretty good street combo, wear out after 10 track days + 8000 miles street driving.
I have tried Kumho XS 245/35 in the front, good grip for 2 track days but started chunking after 3rd so threw it away ...not recommended.
I have tried C51 245 front and R888 275 in the back, awesome grip, broke track record, C51 wear out after 3 track days + 1000 miles of street driving, the R888 wear out after 5 track days + 1500 miles of street driving.
I am going to try NT01 or Hoosier R6 next

The HACK · 12-14-2010, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Master Apex

8 months of ownership,
I have tried Star Spec 245/275, pretty good street combo, wear out after 10 track days + 8000 miles street driving.
I have tried Kumho XS 245/35 in the front, good grip for 2 track days but started chunking after 3rd so threw it away ...not recommended.
I have tried C51 245 front and R888 275 in the back, awesome grip, broke track record, C51 wear out after 3 track days + 1000 miles of street driving, the R888 wear out after 5 track days + 1500 miles of street driving.
I am going to try NT01 or Hoosier R6 next

I'm just going to point out, that part of the reason why your XS wore out so quickly, is the fact that the front tire compound and rear tire compound is different. If you're still on Star Specs in the rear, and XSes in the front, it's possible that the XSes were forced to do more work and therefore the life is shortened dramatically. Same goes for the C52 front and R888 combo, a lot of times it's not because one compound is grippier than another, but they heat up and warm up differently and could potentially lead to one side heating up quickly and getting up to speed while the rears are still warming up, and when that happens, the rear will never warm up or get up to speed causing the front to do all the work.

I'm not an advocate of mixing tires on axles, and this is one of the side effect I've seen from mixing tire compounds on track. Unpredictable wear rate.

Diokaef · 12-14-2010, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cmark8

I'm running 255/35 all around for my track setup with R1R! there's a lot of grip... and it's ok for DD'ing... but decided not to.

Outro Brasileiro, Bom saber que outros Brasileiros tambem tem o prazer de usar uma Z4M. Teu carro ta parecendo da hora.

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krnnerdboy Colonel 190 Rep 2,431 Posts Drives: v10 m6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: so cal iTrader: (10)	I've got r888's but it's not my daily...just get your g/f tires and get her off the runflats....t1rs are pretty much your only choice for toyos __________________ F80 m3, 997 gt3, 14 ram ctd, f15 x5, drz400sm Gone:z4m, boss 302, c6 z06, m6,z3m
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DarkstarZero Lieutenant Colonel 1014 Rep 1,721 Posts Drives: Daytona 95 M3, X7 M50, e92 M3, Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Washington DC iTrader: (6)	The M isn't my daily driver any more. It's now my weekend/fun trips/track/autocross car. In that case, should I get the R888s? My only concern is them wearing away in 5,000 miles or the tires making the car abnormally uncomfortable when I'm taking my gf out to dinner. __________________ BMW CCA Track Instructor Join to win a M School Day at the Performance Center! Enter Referral ID: 420186
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11-14-2010, 03:16 AM	#9
silversprint Private First Class 3 Rep 164 Posts Drives: Z4M Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: SOCAL iTrader: (0)	They make the R1R but it's not available in 275. Choses are 225, 245, 265, I would go with 245 front 265 rear. Those are the sizes on my car now and work well. __________________ MR-S Track -2100lbs/300hp Miata Z4M Coupe (Sold)
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11-29-2010, 09:32 AM	#11
onelove Track Head 24 Rep 503 Posts Drives: 07 Z4M Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Orlando,FL iTrader: (0)	I've had good luck with T1R, great performance tire that handles great in the rain.
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flat_out Private First Class 8 Rep 125 Posts Drives: Z4MC Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK iTrader: (2)	R888's are by far the most grippy tyre i've had on the M. Mine too is a track/ week end car so don't do that many miles on the road. I use a set per year covering c6-8k miles. BTW, they can be quite noisy
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Master Apex Private 17 Rep 99 Posts Drives: '17 F80 M3 '07 Z4M '06 E60M5 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (0)	8 months of ownership, I have tried Star Spec 245/275, pretty good street combo, wear out after 10 track days + 8000 miles street driving. I have tried Kumho XS 245/35 in the front, good grip for 2 track days but started chunking after 3rd so threw it away ...not recommended. I have tried C51 245 front and R888 275 in the back, awesome grip, broke track record, C51 wear out after 3 track days + 1000 miles of street driving, the R888 wear out after 5 track days + 1500 miles of street driving. I am going to try NT01 or Hoosier R6 next
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