Monticello 8/30

TUNEDM3 · 08-28-2010, 07:54 AM

Will anyone be in attendance this Monday at Monticello?

leo95se · 08-29-2010, 12:25 PM

im drivin up tonight.. stayin in middletown... cant wait!

ill be there with my jet black e92, and my friend with his green e46

skierman64 · 08-29-2010, 12:27 PM

I'll be there in my Green E36 M3 with a CF hood and spoiler and SD plates. I'm leaving in about an hour or less. I'm already packed.

MTROIS · 08-30-2010, 07:18 PM

So...how was it guys??? You had perfect weather too....

skierman64 · 08-31-2010, 01:19 PM

The weather was great, although a little on the warm side at least the humidity is down. It was a good event and no one bent any sheet metal that I'm aware of. I had two students, one in a E90M3 6MT and one in a 135. Both guys did great and we had a good time. We did have a MDM save at the dangerous turn 17 when we got in too narrow once. There were about 4 or 5 E9xM3s there.

The removed the temporary building from its location and now the only building is the permanent one with the big garages at the bottom of the hill. It's makes for very poor logistics because the one paved parking lot is too small for all the students plus all the instructors. Therefore the instructors have a long walk to the building from the gravel parking lot near the hot pits for lunch or the facilities. I hope they build another building for club use further up the hill to replace the temp building.

LiM3y · 08-31-2010, 03:31 PM

The word is that Monticello will be shutting its doors to driving clubs and organizations. Apparently, there are drivers who are going multiple times per year (nothing wrong with that) through visiting clubs and the members are getting pissed off that if those drivers are using the track that much, they should join the club (I can understand that too!).

Maybe they will restructure visitors useage to allow clubs in the future where drivers are limited to a certain number of visits?

skierman64 · 08-31-2010, 04:08 PM

While I can understand why the members (who paid $100k to be a member) are upset that some driver's have taken advantage of club schools to get multiple days on the full track. However, it's my understanding that MMC was having some financial difficulties because they didn't get enough members/investers to cover costs and therefore the income from the club rentals helped MMC keep afloat. I did 4 days at MMC this year. Seems as if the members are being a bit short-sighted IMHO. It's probably good not to overlook the amount of cash that school folks spent downtown at restaurants, hotels, and gas stations. I'd guess the club members don't spend much in the local economy.

Just some points to ponder.

I'd guess that MMC will end up not changing their policy on club rentals for next year and end up renting to clubs again despite that rumors say otherwise. We'll see.

TUNEDM3 · 08-31-2010, 05:40 PM

Monticello was a blast!

LiM3y · 08-31-2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by skierman64

While I can understand why the members (who paid $100k to be a member) are upset that some driver's have taken advantage of club schools to get multiple days on the full track. However, it's my understanding that MMC was having some financial difficulties because they didn't get enough members/investers to cover costs and therefore the income from the club rentals helped MMC keep afloat. I did 4 days at MMC this year. Seems as if the members are being a bit short-sighted IMHO. It's probably good not to overlook the amount of cash that school folks spent downtown at restaurants, hotels, and gas stations. I'd guess the club members don't spend much in the local economy.

Just some points to ponder.

I'd guess that MMC will end up not changing their policy on club rentals for next year and end up renting to clubs again despite that rumors say otherwise. We'll see.

I am with you...perhaps too many "oinks" giggled when they announced their F1 bid!

leo95se · 08-31-2010, 07:53 PM

good times! interesting track.

MTROIS · 08-31-2010, 08:23 PM

Happy to read that you all had a great time and that everybody went home in one piece!

MCarRacr07 · 08-31-2010, 08:37 PM

It was a Blast!!...my first time at Monticello...it was a nice technical course...and LONG!....I had a GREAT instructor who was patient...and communicated very well....told what I did right...what i did wrong...how to correct things....each time I went out I got better..never made the same mistake twice...
as far as the track goes....yes the Manager made an announcement that next year (2011) there will be no BMWCCA or other car club events held at the club...
they also showed us a special membership for a 25k initiation fee(3k annual thereafter) that allowed you some good track time...I forgot specifically....
and then they had something called track mates...you get a minimum of 5 friends together and for $495 you can go mid-week for a day...or something to that effect.
here's a picture of a 600+hp GT-R up my coolie

leo95se · 08-31-2010, 08:51 PM

i was in your group.

that gtr was insanely fast, but i was able to get him on turns. unfortunately, with each straight he was nearing the end as i was in the middle.. sooo fast.

LiM3y · 08-31-2010, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCarRacr07

It was a Blast!!...my first time at Monticello...it was a nice technical course...and LONG!....I had a GREAT instructor who was patient...and communicated very well....told what I did right...what i did wrong...how to correct things....each time I went out I got better..never made the same mistake twice...
as far as the track goes....yes the Manager made an announcement that next year (2011) there will be no BMWCCA or other car club events held at the club...
they also showed us a special membership for a 25k initiation fee(3k annual thereafter) that allowed you some good track time...I forgot specifically....
and then they had something called track mates...you get a minimum of 5 friends together and for $495 you can go mid-week for a day...or something to that effect.
here's a picture of a 600+hp GT-R up my coolie

It is interesting trying to improve on the track because the laps are so long, you don't get to work the turns 12-16 times a session, more like 7-8 depending on the session length. And then, every turn has a nuance which makes the difference. Good times and quite a work out!

MCarRacr07 · 08-31-2010, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leo95se

i was in your group.

that gtr was insanely fast, but i was able to get him on turns. unfortunately, with each straight he was nearing the end as i was in the middle.. sooo fast.

your not kidding......on two sessions the GT-R

was behind me at the start and thru the turns everything was fine.....then when we got to the long straight where the 'kink' was.....BUH BYE!!....my jaw would have dropped off if it was not in the helmet...
he was in the paddock next to us and had all sorts of HKS mods done to the car....is it true that a brake job (rotors & pads) costs 7k???...dayum!

Sal@AUTOcouture · 09-01-2010, 09:29 PM

Definitely had a blast. Nice meeting some of you!

skierman64 · 09-02-2010, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sal@AUTOcouture

Definitely had a blast. Nice meeting some of you!

Too bad the parking lot is to small for everyone. As an instructor I prefer hanging out and meeting everyone.

lucid · 09-02-2010, 08:45 AM

They should at least pave that upper lot if they will keep on having driving clubs over. It's a mess, and you can't really do any work on the car.

johnnyace · 09-03-2010, 11:04 PM

I was there too! Definitely a good day. I assumed that GTR was stock. I feel better knowing it wasn't.

jlapicki · 09-14-2010, 03:56 PM

Loved it.......hope they were wrong about no club events next year......

08-28-2010, 07:54 AM	#1
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08-29-2010, 12:25 PM	#2
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08-30-2010, 07:18 PM	#4
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08-31-2010, 01:19 PM	#5
skierman64 Brigadier General 127 Rep 3,071 Posts Drives: E92M3-E46M3-E46Wagon-E89Z4-E36 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Greater St Louis Metro area iTrader: (1) Garage List 1994 325is Race Car [0.00] 2011 BMW Z4 [0.00] 1998 M3 Coupe [0.00] 2008 M3 Coupe [0.00]	The weather was great, although a little on the warm side at least the humidity is down. It was a good event and no one bent any sheet metal that I'm aware of. I had two students, one in a E90M3 6MT and one in a 135. Both guys did great and we had a good time. We did have a MDM save at the dangerous turn 17 when we got in too narrow once. There were about 4 or 5 E9xM3s there. The removed the temporary building from its location and now the only building is the permanent one with the big garages at the bottom of the hill. It's makes for very poor logistics because the one paved parking lot is too small for all the students plus all the instructors. Therefore the instructors have a long walk to the building from the gravel parking lot near the hot pits for lunch or the facilities. I hope they build another building for club use further up the hill to replace the temp building. __________________ Invest Wisely...The best mod for your money?? BMWCCA high performance driver's school. The mod that lasts a lifetime and improves the performance of any car you drive[/LEFT]
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08-31-2010, 03:31 PM	#6
LiM3y Major 70 Rep 1,339 Posts Drives: 2008 E90 M3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: CT iTrader: (5)	The word is that Monticello will be shutting its doors to driving clubs and organizations. Apparently, there are drivers who are going multiple times per year (nothing wrong with that) through visiting clubs and the members are getting pissed off that if those drivers are using the track that much, they should join the club (I can understand that too!). Maybe they will restructure visitors useage to allow clubs in the future where drivers are limited to a certain number of visits?
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skierman64 Brigadier General 127 Rep 3,071 Posts Drives: E92M3-E46M3-E46Wagon-E89Z4-E36 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Greater St Louis Metro area iTrader: (1) Garage List 1994 325is Race Car [0.00] 2011 BMW Z4 [0.00] 1998 M3 Coupe [0.00] 2008 M3 Coupe [0.00]	While I can understand why the members (who paid $100k to be a member) are upset that some driver's have taken advantage of club schools to get multiple days on the full track. However, it's my understanding that MMC was having some financial difficulties because they didn't get enough members/investers to cover costs and therefore the income from the club rentals helped MMC keep afloat. I did 4 days at MMC this year. Seems as if the members are being a bit short-sighted IMHO. It's probably good not to overlook the amount of cash that school folks spent downtown at restaurants, hotels, and gas stations. I'd guess the club members don't spend much in the local economy. Just some points to ponder. I'd guess that MMC will end up not changing their policy on club rentals for next year and end up renting to clubs again despite that rumors say otherwise. We'll see. __________________ Invest Wisely...The best mod for your money?? BMWCCA high performance driver's school. The mod that lasts a lifetime and improves the performance of any car you drive[/LEFT]
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leo95se Captain 126 Rep 938 Posts Drives: '09 e92 M3, '15 F15 X5d Join Date: May 2009 Location: CT iTrader: (3)	good times! interesting track.
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08-31-2010, 08:37 PM	#12
MCarRacr07 Second Lieutenant 85 Rep 241 Posts Drives: a couple still in the garage Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	Great Time!! It was a Blast!!...my first time at Monticello...it was a nice technical course...and LONG!....I had a GREAT instructor who was patient...and communicated very well....told what I did right...what i did wrong...how to correct things....each time I went out I got better..never made the same mistake twice... as far as the track goes....yes the Manager made an announcement that next year (2011) there will be no BMWCCA or other car club events held at the club... they also showed us a special membership for a 25k initiation fee(3k annual thereafter) that allowed you some good track time...I forgot specifically.... and then they had something called track mates...you get a minimum of 5 friends together and for $495 you can go mid-week for a day...or something to that effect. here's a picture of a 600+hp GT-R up my coolie Attached Images __________________
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leo95se Captain 126 Rep 938 Posts Drives: '09 e92 M3, '15 F15 X5d Join Date: May 2009 Location: CT iTrader: (3)	i was in your group. that gtr was insanely fast, but i was able to get him on turns. unfortunately, with each straight he was nearing the end as i was in the middle.. sooo fast. Attached Images
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09-01-2010, 09:29 PM	#16
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johnnyace Private First Class 57 Rep 105 Posts Drives: M2C Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NY iTrader: (1)	I was there too! Definitely a good day. I assumed that GTR was stock. I feel better knowing it wasn't. Last edited by johnnyace; 03-04-2011 at 08:28 PM..
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