M3 Stroker VS M6/M5

[H Bomb]

i have a friend who is one of those guys that just thinks his car is the greatest and nothing can beat it and when he gets beat there is always an excuse.

i think the best was when a friend of ours with and older P 930 turbo that has some mods, old car but wicked fast. the 930 just flat out beat him and he said it was bc he didn't press his power button and let him win. lmao

so i told him that i think a M3 stroker whether it be a Dinan or a RS one will give his M5 a run for his money. he said i am nuts that his M5 will smoke a stroker m3

i mean am i crazy or would it be a close run. in all comp times. like 0-60, 1/4 mile, 60-100, etc etc

with the stroker the numbers are close on both cars

any thoughts on how these would stack up or any experience btw the two cars??

thanks

H

[NavM]

M3 stroker engine: 3600lb, 500+ hp
M5 stock engine: 4000lb, 500 hp

M3 wins in the above comparison. Now an M5 with DINAN stroker, 625 HP is a different story. The M3 is going to need a supercharger.

[Small Yellow]

Sorry but your friend is nuts. Sounds like one of mine until I shoved proof multiple times in his face.. Now he stays quiet.

[Trier Germany]

Tellin gyour friend to ssop smoking the wacky tabaco!

[H Bomb]

i know he is nuts. the most funny part is my boy with the old 930 gas pedal got stuck on the carpet so he still had one more gear to pull, lmao and my buddy still thinks he let him win. i am like dude wtf are you on

yeah i just wish i had the money to do the stroker or sc so i could wax his ass all day long over and over again numerous runs no matter what he smokes that day

thanks for the info i knew i wasn't crazy

[footie]

Here we go again, modified vs stock.

Same argument...............only the models have changed.

[H Bomb]

no argue here just a simple question. man i didn't realize there was threads of this comparo before. i mean its not like i put a 335i vs m3 thread up or something jeeze

Originally Posted by footie

Here we go again, modified vs stock.

Same argument...............only the models have changed.

[CATCH_M3]

At any speed the E9X M3 Stroker should have an edge.
Low speeds, M3 will have weight advantage.
High speeds, M3 Stroker has SLIGHTLY more power & torque .. Both Drag coefficients are around .30-.31.. So M3 will have slight advantage there too.

[shchow]

One of the fastest M3 I've seen on video was a modified E46 HPF stage 2.5.
It absolutely destroys any stock E60 M5.
Then the stroker M5 came along and killed it.
I agree with Footie, this modified vs stock comparo's really are meaningless.
There's always going to be something faster than you. Just enjoy what you're driving...

[FR33160]

Originally Posted by footie

Here we go again, modified vs stock.

Same argument...............only the models have changed.

So what is an M car if not a MODIFIED version of another car. They are all modified. Thats why 335i > M3 (Factory modified 3 series)

Just kidding to each his own. But please stop bringing m3's to drag races ITS NOT GOOD AT IT

[330CIZHP]

PencilGeek's RD sport stroker M3 even with an ultra-tall swapped 3.15:1 ratio for supercharging walked a stock M5 like it was not even racing. Imagine what would have happened if he had the stock 3.85:1 ratio.

Again, it is a modified vs stock comparison so not fair. A stroker M5 is a monster.

Originally Posted by FR33160

Just kidding to each his own. But please stop bringing m3's to drag races ITS NOT GOOD AT IT

DLSJ5's basic bolt-on M3 has run 11.8@~120 mph (I will not even get into his supercharged version that he has now which is trapping over 130 mph) and you are claiming it is not good at drag racing??

A typical 335 owner. Sour grapes.

[MVF4Rrider]

Originally Posted by footie

Here we go again, modified vs stock.

Same argument...............only the models have changed.

Have to agree here. My philosophy is to buy the power/performance level you desire. I try to keep my cars as close to bone stock as possible. I don't ever buy things with the intent to make it more than it is already. Besides, the more powerful you make it the less you can tap into the full power on a routine basis...especially in the US.

[H Bomb]

i respectfully disagree

some people like to mod or play with there cars as a hobby etc

other people mod bc they want some extra power after driving there car for awhile and sometimes a mod or two and make it feel ike a new car again without getting a new car

also some will mod this car bc to get to a level that has the power/ performance that is alot more then a M3 you will need to step up the price alot in my opinion. the M3 is a great all round car and anything in my mind that is alot more power and faster and as good handling is over 100k car if not well over.

i agree when you go stroker or something like that then it is at that point not cheap anymore and falls close to where you could of got another car instead that had that performance numbers. but some people don't like those cars and want the usable space an M3 has but want the power and speed of what the other 100k plus cars have.

different strokes for different folks and what makes them happy is all that matters in my opinion whether that be leaving it stock or modding the piss out of it

Originally Posted by MVF4Rrider

Have to agree here. My philosophy is to buy the power/performance level you desire. I try to keep my cars as close to bone stock as possible. I don't ever buy things with the intent to make it more than it is already. Besides, the more powerful you make it the less you can tap into the full power on a routine basis...especially in the US.

[footie]

I have nothing wrong with modifing your cars, it's something I personally don't agree with but each to their own. Though when debating cars and which is better then how can you discuss this objectively.

I have ordered a new S4 to replace the Jag and if I was the sort to tune my cars I could also claim that my S4 if 'tuned' would be a better car than an M3 but as I ain't I will never claim such a thing because in stock form the S4 isn't of that caliber.

[02black330ci]

Originally Posted by shchow

One of the fastest M3 I've seen on video was a modified E46 HPF stage 2.5.
It absolutely destroys any stock E60 M5.
Then the stroker M5 came along and killed it.

Any video of this stroker M5 beating the HPF 2.5?

[DLSJ5]

Originally Posted by 02black330ci

Any video of this stroker M5 beating the HPF 2.5?

No, because it never happened! lol, I think there was one run with th 2.5 on pump that was close for a bit, but no NA M5 is going to touch a 2.5 HPF E46 M3.

[02black330ci]

Originally Posted by DLSJ5

No, because it never happened! lol, I think there was one run with th 2.5 on pump that was close for a bit, but no NA M5 is going to touch a 2.5 HPF E46 M3.

Hey Drew, whats up man... Yeah that is what I figured bro, but I always love to give the benefit of the doubt. M3PTGSC pointed me to right video.

[leletyM3]

The HPF Stg2.5 on PUMP and Meth will actually kill the M5! Yes on pump only it might be close!

[DLSJ5]

Originally Posted by 02black330ci

Hey Drew, whats up man... Yeah that is what I figured bro, but I always love to give the benefit of the doubt. M3PTGSC pointed me to right video.

Hey Bro!

Those runs were not close, but there was one run where the stroker M5 did very well, that was close, but the 2.5 was on pump and I believe lost traction at the start.

On pump the HPF 2.5 hits 60-130 in 7.03 seconds, the Stroker M5's best time was 8.68, of course on race fuel it's a whole different ball game as the HPF 2.5 does it in 5.75, for comparisons sake a Bugatti Veyron does it in 5.6.

[footie]

Not contain to argue on modified vs stock we appear to have moved on to arguing between modified vs modified and now pump fuel vs racing fuel.

This thread has gone from being funny to plain laughable. Sorry guys but this appears to be a dick length contest and nothing else.

[H Bomb]

wow this wasn't my intent for this thread just to get some simple info on two different cars. it appears it has turned way away from that and others like to just not input anything useful but just posts about how stupid it is etc. so be it

mods if you could just delete please that would be greatly appreciated

[Scott@Radar-Mirror.com]

Originally Posted by DLSJ5

Hey Bro!

Those runs were not close, but there was one run where the stroker M5 did very well... http://www.youtube.com/user/racemxm3#p/u/23/qGXONqfpiYo that was close, but the 2.5 was on pump and I believe lost traction at the start.

On pump the HPF 2.5 hits 60-130 in 7.03 seconds, the Stroker M5's best time was 8.68, of course on race fuel it's a whole different ball game as the HPF 2.5 does it in 5.75, for comparisons sake a Bugatti Veyron does it in 5.6.

That's me and my friend Darren after he got his motor done by Dinan. I was definitely on pump and forgot to turn DSC off which explains the start. The Stroker M5's and M6's are awesome to drive and I'd love to have one but expensive for what you get.