M3 vs. 335iS

GregW / Oregon · 01-18-2010, 10:31 AM

From Autoweek 1/18:

"A new performance-oriented 335iS model endowed with an M-sport styling kit and unique chassis settings heads the list of changes BMW brings to its facelifted 2011 3-series coupe and convertible.

Set to slot into the lineup between an upgraded 335i and the M3 when it goes on sale in March as an exclusive for North America, the 335iS runs a tuned version of BMW's N54 engine, as found in the recently unveiled Z4 sDrive35iS, coupled to either a standard six-speed manual or an optional Getrag-engineered seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox.

The twin-turbocharged 3.0-liter inline six-cylinder engine of the 335iS adds a special software package to bump power by 20 hp over the 335i to 326 hp and lift torque from 295 lb-ft to 332 lb-ft--or to an even gutsier 369 lb-ft for short periods via an overboost function that unleashes added turbocharger boost pressure.

BMW puts the new 335iS's 0-to-60-mph time at just 5.1 seconds in standard guise, or an even sharper 5.0 seconds when running the optional dual-clutch gearbox--making it just a tenth of a second slower than the acceleration benchmark of the standard six-speed manual M3. Top speed is increased by 20 mph over the 335i, taking it from 130 mph to 150 mph.

In other changes to the facelifted 3-series coupe and convertible lineup, BMW upgraded the 335i. It receives a new N55 engine running a single-scroll turbocharger in place of the twin-turbocharger setup of its predecessor, albeit without the performance software package. Power and torque remain the same as on the existing 335i, at 306 hp and 295 lb-ft respectively, with the cutout pegged at 7,000 rpm. Official performance figures put the 335i coupe and cabriolet's 0-to-60-mph time at 5.3 seconds in standard six-speed manual guise or 5.5 seconds with BMW's optional ZF-engineered six-speed automatic. Top speed is limited to 130 mph.

All 2011 3-series coupe and cabriolet models receive revised exterior styling. The changes are subtle, extending to the traditional kidney grille, bumpers, lights, exterior mirrors and wheels. They also feature a similarly subtle interior upgrade that includes a new multifunction steering wheel and dark burl walnut wood."

Facelifted 3-Series Coupe:

MVF4Rrider · 01-18-2010, 11:26 AM

Would have been nice to see a pic of the face of the face-lifted 3 series. Seems BMW has of late been going to stubby noses and larger kidney grills on all models. Curious as to when these styling characters will find the 3 series.

Interesting the 335is is North America only.

Crazy Bimmer · 01-18-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MVF4Rrider

Would have been nice to see a pic of the face of the face-lifted 3 series.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=341511

GnokGnik · 01-18-2010, 11:49 AM

BMW is betting most people don't know about the ridiculously cheap and easy tunes (such as Jb3) available on the market for the N54.

What's keeping my 91-octane, super reliable (had no HPFP failures @ 40k, 25K of which are jb3'd) 400 whp 335i from being a 335iS++?

100% of the arguments why the M3 is better than the 335i holds true for the 335iS as well. (well, unless the 335iS is getting track upgrades like suspension/LSDs/etc, then the 335iS is better than GOD)

Okay, I read Jesal's link....I guess the "S" doesn't stand for sportiness since they didn't add a LSD (or other track goodies)...which is paramount in ANY sports car.

valbauer · 03-01-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MVF4Rrider

Interesting the 335is is North America only.

I believe I was told that this was because the exhaust was too loud for european marketing? I may be wrong

quality_sound · 03-02-2010, 06:46 AM

European exhaust volume regs are no different than CA's. There has to be another reason it's US only.

valbauer · 03-02-2010, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by quality_sound

European exhaust volume regs are no different than CA's. There has to be another reason it's US only.

Hmm well then I don't know

GregW / Oregon · 03-02-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by quality_sound

European exhaust volume regs are no different than CA's. There has to be another reason it's US only.

Probably marketing reasons. They know it will be an easy sell in the US market.

MVF4Rrider · 03-02-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Probably marketing reasons. They know it will be an easy sell in the US market.

Yes...absolutely. It's the product life cycle to a tee. Sales have been dropping for several years so it's one last ditch effort to maximize production effort/sales before the model changeover. Nothing new. It's planned years in advance.

Sephiroth · 03-02-2010, 06:00 PM

Any info on the power and torque curve?

Small Yellow · 03-04-2010, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Probably marketing reasons. They know it will be an easy sell in the US market.

Heh.. it is because we don't get the M3 GTS. I think.

Golgothar · 03-04-2010, 09:37 PM

Nice car, just like the 335ci i had "nice"...

I was always recieving compliments from women on my 335 then i realised it was to sleek/feminine really for my taste but as i said "nice car".

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GnokGnik Captain 17 Rep 936 Posts Drives: E92 335i, 997 C2S Join Date: May 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	BMW is betting most people don't know about the ridiculously cheap and easy tunes (such as Jb3) available on the market for the N54. What's keeping my 91-octane, super reliable (had no HPFP failures @ 40k, 25K of which are jb3'd) 400 whp 335i from being a 335iS++? 100% of the arguments why the M3 is better than the 335i holds true for the 335iS as well. (well, unless the 335iS is getting track upgrades like suspension/LSDs/etc, then the 335iS is better than GOD) Okay, I read Jesal's link....I guess the "S" doesn't stand for sportiness since they didn't add a LSD (or other track goodies)...which is paramount in ANY sports car. Last edited by GnokGnik; 03-06-2010 at 05:03 PM..
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