Will Lexus LFA put a nail coffin on BMW //M cars

ase2dais · 01-14-2010, 06:46 AM

with the IS-F attempt pretty done... should /M owners hold their breath on new Lexus LFA

Lexus site specs seems pretty impressive:
http://www.lexus.com/LFA/

4.8 LV10 552 HP
9,000 max rpm
202 mph top speed
0-6 in 3.6 secs

looks surely a //M3 killer but new //M5 may have better chance
another exciting era..
lets hold our breath and wait

joeybmew · 01-14-2010, 06:49 AM

[QUOTE=ase2dais;6524618]with the IS-F attempt pretty done... should /M owners hold their breath on new Lexus LFA

who gives a crap .. cus there is no M car which cost over 250k

ase2dais · 01-14-2010, 06:50 AM

Lexus havent given price yet?
where you get the info

EOE90 · 01-14-2010, 06:51 AM

its a lexus

Oshin02 · 01-14-2010, 06:56 AM

nice car, nice numbers, but hell no i would never pay 6 digits for a Japanese/Import

-Oshin

DoNDoN · 01-14-2010, 06:59 AM

Lexus has said that this car will be in the super car category so this will not do anything to hurt BMW M sales.

URBAN LEGEND · 01-14-2010, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ase2dais

Lexus havent given price yet?
where you get the info

It was all over the past January or December main magazines issues

SUB-ZERO · 01-14-2010, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ase2dais

with the IS-F attempt pretty done... should /M owners hold their breath on new Lexus LFA

Lexus site specs seems pretty impressive:
http://www.lexus.com/LFA/

4.8 LV10 552 HP
9,000 max rpm
202 mph top speed
0-6 in 3.6 secs

looks surely a //M3 killer but new //M5 may have better chance
another exciting era..
lets hold our breath and wait

It is a limited production (less than 500 worldwide), $450,000 supercar that will be "leased" to high-profile clients only. May put a dent on Veyron sales.

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/485...-out-in-japan/

-SZ

footie · 01-14-2010, 07:30 AM

Last I hear was that no LFA will be sold only leased, but the figure placed on the car was approx. £350K which is not only well beyond the price of all M cars but cost close on the price of all M car models sold by BMW put together.

Sorry but no nail in BMW or any other brands coffin. What this is my friend is a marketing exercise to boost image in the same way as VW did with the Phaeton, only in this case it's to boost an image of sportiest and not luxury. Tell me exactually what similarities this car has with the rest of the Lexus range apart from wearing the same badge?

At least with a BMW or Audi or Mercedes you can see the connection among models but here there is none.

graider · 01-14-2010, 10:33 AM

um..i would take the lfa over any bmw though. LOL

mPlasticDesign · 01-14-2010, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ase2dais

Lexus havent given price yet?
where you get the info

Lexus has, it's going to be $375-$400k depending on options.

Oh and I almost forgot......

.....wait for it...........

Phew, I feel much better now!

Reference:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...7&postcount=35

xchosun1x · 01-14-2010, 10:43 AM

^^ lol

JC919 · 01-14-2010, 11:22 AM

pointless thread

SUB-ZERO · 01-14-2010, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC919

pointless thread

+1

Mod, please consider closing this thread.

-SZ

SUB-ZERO · 01-14-2010, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EOE90

its a lexus

Well, to be honest, Lexus probably has a better build quality than most BMWs. From my experience thus far with my M3, sales and service are TERRIBLE (BMW Arlington). Both Infiniti and Lexus sales and service are far better than what BMW has offered me thus far.

I owned two Infinitis (G35 and FX35) and had them service across 3 different states and it was amazing. I just purchased an RX400h for the wife and the sales and service is amazing; not only from the people but also the facilities.

-SZ

McLuVan · 01-14-2010, 11:50 AM

uhhh
who put the M3 in the coffin?

FStop7 · 01-14-2010, 11:55 AM

WTF at this thread

Davo2003 · 01-14-2010, 12:16 PM

"In your haste to create another woman you forgot one thing...to hook up the doll". - Kelly LeBrock "Weird Science" 1985

And to the OP, in your haste to put nails in the coffin of the M3 you forgot one critical "0" ... fyi my M3 goes from "0-6" in far less than 3.6 seconds.

M3 ftw

haze gray · 01-14-2010, 12:26 PM

No

991GT3 · 01-14-2010, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ase2dais

with the IS-F attempt pretty done... should /M owners hold their breath on new Lexus LFA

Lexus site specs seems pretty impressive:
http://www.lexus.com/LFA/

4.8 LV10 552 HP
9,000 max rpm
202 mph top speed
0-6 in 3.6 secs

looks surely a //M3 killer but new //M5 may have better chance
another exciting era..
lets hold our breath and wait

This is a joke question, right?
It's like asking whether the Enzo Ferrari would hurt M sales.
And for god sake the car is a pathetic. $350k-$450k for a vehicle that performs like an $80k GTR. Anyone that buys it has entirely too much money.

Bluechipper · 01-14-2010, 12:48 PM

LFA IS ALREADY DEAD. - before it even hits the showroom.

The entry level Ferrari specs already exceed the LFA and it has a NA V8.

Ferrari F458 - $220,000 4.5-liter V8 570 horsepower at 9,000 rpm and 398 pound-feet of torque at 6,000 rpm.

Lexus LFA - $375,000 4.8-liter V10 552 horsepower and 352 pound-feet of torque at 9000 rpm.

Ferrari's V8 for exceeds the LFA V10.

bunnn · 01-14-2010, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 997GT3

This is a joke question, right?
It's like asking whether the Enzo Ferrari would hurt M sales.
And for god sake the car is a pathetic. $350k-$450k for a vehicle that performs like an $80k GTR. Anyone that buys it has entirely too much money.

We'll have to wait for numbers to come to a conclusion now shouldn't we? I mean, it did put the fastest wet lap ever on Topgear(not that this means much), but the rumoured 'Ring times as well as others are clearly pointing that it performs better than the GTR ... not to mention the technology from chassis to body design to engine, every little detail on this car should not be overlooked...

Anyone who buys the LFA obviously does not care about a measly $450k, it'll be chump change to them...look at Shaq buying an RR phantom for LBJ...that alone shows you this kind of money is nothing to A LOT of people..especially when you consider 500 worldwide?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluechipper

LFA IS ALREADY DEAD. - before it even hits the showroom.

The entry level Ferrari specs already exceed the LFA and it has a NA V8.

Ferrari F458 - $220,000 4.5-liter V8 570 horsepower at 9,000 rpm and 398 pound-feet of torque at 6,000 rpm.

Lexus LFA - $375,000 4.8-liter V10 552 horsepower and 352 pound-feet of torque at 9000 rpm.

Ferrari's V8 for exceeds the LFA V10.

If you want to compare just the engine size then the F458 should be dead compared to ZR1s granted the price difference..

Btw, have you heard the LFA engine? It sounds pretty f'ing goood. Not to mention the way it revs, no motor right now holds a candle to that. I wouldn't come to a conclusion saying the Ferrari specs exceeds by looking at only paper stats, especially only comparing engine size and power

I agree that this definitely doesn't affect M sales, because 99% of us on here probably can't afford it anyways, which is why we think it's severely overpriced..i'm not saying it isn't..but relatively speaking

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Bluechipper Banned 16 Rep 255 Posts Drives: 09 M3 Vert Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	LFA IS ALREADY DEAD. - before it even hits the showroom. The entry level Ferrari specs already exceed the LFA and it has a NA V8. Ferrari F458 - $220,000 4.5-liter V8 570 horsepower at 9,000 rpm and 398 pound-feet of torque at 6,000 rpm. Lexus LFA - $375,000 4.8-liter V10 552 horsepower and 352 pound-feet of torque at 9000 rpm. Ferrari's V8 for exceeds the LFA V10.
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