E90 M3 with factory S/C

SUB-ZERO · 12-27-2009, 08:15 PM

Just got back from my local dealer and one of the salesmen had a German-plated e90 M3 with a factory S/C. He said it was a factory test car and a handfull of the "S/C" m3s are in existance.

I took a look at this thing and it looks completely stock; no special gauges, frontmount intercooler or vents.

I am going back Monday morning to take some pics of this thing.

I wonder if BMW was testing V8 S/C engines for a future M3???

Has anyone heard of this? Could this be the missing piece of the puzzle on what we may see in the future?

If anyone would like to see this, take a trip to BMW if Arlington.

I should have more info in the AM.

-SZ

330CIZHP · 12-27-2009, 08:17 PM

Does it still have the S65 motor with 8400 rpm redline?

URBAN LEGEND · 12-27-2009, 08:25 PM

Not believing this at all. Turbo? Maybe.

NoM3ForMe · 12-27-2009, 08:32 PM

Can you really S/C without an intercooler?

If yes, color me that much the wiser...

LateBraking · 12-27-2009, 08:34 PM

You can, several factory cars come without intercoolers. It sure does help temperature and power gains just having one though.

I want to see some pictures to be truly convinced of this though. If this is true, very interesting.

SUB-ZERO · 12-27-2009, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 330CIZHP

Does it still have the S65 motor with 8400 rpm redline?

It looks completely stock. I will hopefully take pics of the engine bay tomorrow in the AM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Not believing this at all. Turbo? Maybe.

I know. I cannot make any sense of it. Still investigating so hopefully I'll have more info tomorrow.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoM3ForMe

Can you really S/C without an intercooler?

If yes, color me that much the wiser...

Yes you can. However, just becuase I didn't see one, it does not mean that there isn't. I'm going back in the AM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iBeJayKaying

You can, several factory cars come without intercoolers. It sure does help temperature and power gains just having one though.

I want to see some pictures to be truly convinced of this though. If this is true, very interesting.

Tell me about it! I was hoping someone on the forum can provide some clarity on this. The owner is pretty much clueless.

-SZ

Eugene-TAIWAN · 12-27-2009, 08:46 PM

I think its turbo kitted. Not S/C

SUB-ZERO · 12-27-2009, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 330CIZHP

Does it still have the S65 motor with 8400 rpm redline?

Quote:

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Not believing this at all. Turbo? Maybe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoM3ForMe

Can you really S/C without an intercooler?

If yes, color me that much the wiser...

Quote:

Originally Posted by iBeJayKaying

You can, several factory cars come without intercoolers. It sure does help temperature and power gains just having one though.

I want to see some pictures to be truly convinced of this though. If this is true, very interesting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene-TAIWAN

I think its turbo kitted. Not S/C

I will know for sure tomorrow. A turbo would make sense.

mkoesel · 12-27-2009, 10:06 PM

So you didn't ask him to show you the engine bay?

duk · 12-27-2009, 10:06 PM

WTH is this??

PaulBailey@ltbmw · 12-27-2009, 10:08 PM

Do Not Believe.
Need pics for sure.
Was it for sale?

URBAN LEGEND · 12-27-2009, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iBeJayKaying

You can, several factory cars come without intercoolers.

Please name a few supercharged or turbocharged factory vehicles non intercooled.

michaeldorian · 12-27-2009, 10:27 PM

Interesting... Looking forward to what you find out.

kmarei · 12-27-2009, 10:56 PM

i guess i am going to BMW arlington tomorrow

do you know what colour it was?

noro · 12-27-2009, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoM3ForMe

Can you really S/C without an intercooler?

If yes, color me that much the wiser...

Like your sig... you're missing one more,

"there is no place like 127.0.0.1"

FStop7 · 12-27-2009, 10:57 PM

Not buying a word of this.

Like BMW M GmbH R&D would give a test car over to some mope at a dealership.

Did it have New Jersey or California Manufacturer plates? Were the roundels blacked out?

ihyln · 12-27-2009, 11:08 PM

Interesting

aajami · 12-27-2009, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FStop7

Not buying a word of this.

Like BMW M GmbH R&D would give a test car over to some mope at a dealership.

Did it have New Jersey or California Manufacturer plates? Were the roundels blacked out?

What he said.

rAdzM · 12-27-2009, 11:18 PM

michaeldorian · 12-27-2009, 11:21 PM

Imagine if it's a factory OEM S/C performance upgrade by BMW Performance. I bet tons would flock to an OEM kit with warranty.

Ca$hOnly · 12-27-2009, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUB-ZERO

Just got back from my local dealer and one of the salesmen...

-SZ

Stopped reading after that. When will you people learn that salesmen don't know SHIT!!!

mexicanmike · 12-27-2009, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ca$hOnly

Stopped reading after that. When will you people learn that salesmen don't know SHIT!!!

LOL. As someone who went from sales to design/engineering in my field, I approve this message!!

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SUB-ZERO Lieutenant Colonel 294 Rep 1,709 Posts Drives: 2018 M2 + Spur, DB11, F12, X5 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: VA iTrader: (0)	E90 M3 with factory S/C Just got back from my local dealer and one of the salesmen had a German-plated e90 M3 with a factory S/C. He said it was a factory test car and a handfull of the "S/C" m3s are in existance. I took a look at this thing and it looks completely stock; no special gauges, frontmount intercooler or vents. I am going back Monday morning to take some pics of this thing. I wonder if BMW was testing V8 S/C engines for a future M3??? Has anyone heard of this? Could this be the missing piece of the puzzle on what we may see in the future? If anyone would like to see this, take a trip to BMW if Arlington. I should have more info in the AM. -SZ Last edited by SUB-ZERO; 12-27-2009 at 08:40 PM..
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