BRAKE Warning Sensor

Zuzu · 08-31-2008, 12:28 AM

Was driving my car normally today (under 4.5K RPM lol )when all of a sudden the brake warning light comes on the dash and the IDrive changes screens to "BRAKE PADS WORN".:iono:

"Have them replaced by the nearest BMW dealer"

WTF...The car has only 2800km's on the clock.

Have turned the car ON/OFF numerous times, have let it cool off, but still the warning lights wont go away.

It is also showing the Service Indicator above the temp on the dash..( A sketch of a car on a service hoist )

I know this is a fault somewhere as obviously the brake pads arent worn out unless the warning solenoid attached to one of the four calipers is faulty.

Anyone else have this false warning light showing up??:iono:

Looks like back to the stealers this week..

MikeVictor · 08-31-2008, 12:48 AM

That'd be annoying, Zuzu.

Hopefully the Zuzette can be fixed ASAP.

Zuzu · 08-31-2008, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mattyv

That'd be annoying, Zuzu.

Hopefully the Zuzette can be fixed ASAP.

Thanks Matty..

It is annoying...Plus time consuming having to go back to the dealer.
I know the brakes are fine, just hoping its a faulty brake pad sensor...

Swift135 · 08-31-2008, 12:56 AM

I had that happen in my second last X5 within a month of purchase. It was a faulty sensor, BMW fixed it .

Zuzu · 08-31-2008, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Swift135

I had that happen in my second last X5 within a month of purchase. It was a faulty sensor, BMW fixed it .

Thanks mate...So it was a faulty brake pad sensor?

d3syd · 08-31-2008, 01:12 AM

Sorry to hear that Joe. Must either be the sensor or a computer glitch. They should be able to sort it out pretty quick. I guess that's the problem with cars these days, they are so complex.

Zuzu · 08-31-2008, 01:22 AM

Hi there Y..:smile:

True mate..have owned BMW's for a long time but have never had this warning unless the brakes where ready for a pad change...

Hopefully something simple..Made me slow down a bit on the way home...you never know..:iono:

amk2912 · 08-31-2008, 02:47 AM

Zuzu - This happened to me after 10,000km in my 130i. It turned out that it was just a software glitch and the tech did some funky stuff with a reset and no probs thereafter. The pads still had heaps of meat on them so obviously an error.

Zuzu · 08-31-2008, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by amk2912

Zuzu - This happened to me after 10,000km in my 130i. It turned out that it was just a software glitch and the tech did some funky stuff with a reset and no probs thereafter. The pads still had heaps of meat on them so obviously an error.

You could be correct..:wink:

Now that I think back of the sequence of events, the original warning wasnt about the brakes, but to do with having the DTC turned off.

When I tried to reactivated the DTC,there was no response from the system.

Then after a series of flashing lights and warnings the brake sensor activated and remained on and the DTC icon turned itself back off.

Oh well...Will get it checked out this week..

cozza · 08-31-2008, 04:19 AM

I had the same thing happen a few weeks ago. My dash did what the dealer called "a christmas tree", meaning all sorts of lights started flashing. First, the car told me that the DTC and DSC were faulty, and that I should drive with extreme caution as the systems were not working. A few hours later when I got into the car again, this warning was replaced with "brake pads worn".

I dropped into Bib Stillwell the next day, and after about 20 minutes with the car, the problem had been fixed. It was simply a software fault. Our cars are computers after all... obviously PCs rather than Macs...

Zuzu · 08-31-2008, 04:34 AM

Corey, you have hit the nail on the head mate...:thumbup:

You have described the EXACT system malfunction that my car went through.

Your recollection of events is far more accurate and precise than mine, but 100% correct.( I think my memory is fading with age )

Well the good news is that it can be rectified by a visit to the dealer.

The BAD news.. Is this a going to be a recurring problem with the 1er's.:iono:

smarm · 08-31-2008, 05:15 AM

Bugger

So to hear about the fault. I wonder if they'll upgrade to the 30.2 software...

Kris · 08-31-2008, 05:17 AM

Be interesting if they take you to 30.2, ask them Joe what they do. Be interesting to see if an update also fixes the Ipod issue described by Kyle...

Zuzu · 08-31-2008, 05:47 AM

Will keep you posted of the outcome this week guys..

The thing is that, this fault is not isolated to the 135 as Corey had the same software issue..

randomquickness · 08-31-2008, 10:06 AM

I am convinced all of our 1ers will throw some sort of fault early in their lives so as to have the software updated to detect piggy backs! lol

WAY · 08-31-2008, 06:53 PM

Joe, just have a look at the brake pads and you can see if it is worn or not. I really doubt it would be unless they gave you a dodgy (or was it dodgey?) one to start with. At least then you know you can drive it in a normal fashion until you have time to go to your dealer.

WAY · 08-31-2008, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by randomquickness

I am convinced all of our 1ers will throw some sort of fault early in their lives so as to have the software updated to detect piggy backs! lol

Zuzu · 08-31-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WAY

Joe, just have a look at the brake pads and you can see if it is worn or not. I really doubt it would be unless they gave you a dodgy (or was it dodgey?) one to start with. At least then you know you can drive it in a normal fashion until you have time to go to your dealer.

Wayne, that was the first thing i did when I got home mate...:smile:.Jacked her up and even took one front and one rear wheel off and inspected the disc/pad/sensor..:wink:

I think Corey is right..Software issue thats needs to be tweaked/reset.

Zuzu · 09-04-2008, 01:04 AM

Hi Swift.

My car went in today to have that "Christmas tree" problem resolved and the dealer just rang to say that the car will be kept over night as they are upgrading to 30.2 or higher (whatever that means).:iono:
Didnt realise there was a upgrade over the 30.2.

Was told that it will have to stay overnight as the download for the upgrade will take approx 9 hours..

Also finally having the High pressure fuel pump replaced..

Will give a report hopefully tomorrow night if I get the car back by weekend..

NEW FUEL PUMP and SOFTWARE UPGRADE.... This should be interesting..:biggrin:

cozza · 09-04-2008, 01:57 AM

Interesting. Is there a way to find out what the current version is on our cars? Just wondering if mine was upgraded to 30.2 (whatever that means!).

Also, what was the iPod issue? Must've missed that post...

amk2912 · 09-04-2008, 02:57 AM

I can't understand why it takes soooo long to upgrade software. What? Did BMW get a deal on all those discontinued Commodore 64 tape drives and they now lurk in our cars? Maybe they should change the tapes to 120 minute tapes, that way they can store more info! :biggrin:

qship · 09-04-2008, 03:17 AM

I agree. I wanted to change the auto window opening and was told the car had to be plugged into Germany for 3 hours!

Maybe at the service.

08-31-2008, 12:28 AM	#1
Zuzu Major General 2816 Rep 7,637 Posts Drives: M2C HS 6MT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sydney Australia iTrader: (0)	BRAKE Warning Sensor Was driving my car normally today (under 4.5K RPM lol )when all of a sudden the brake warning light comes on the dash and the IDrive changes screens to "BRAKE PADS WORN".:iono: "Have them replaced by the nearest BMW dealer" WTF...The car has only 2800km's on the clock. Have turned the car ON/OFF numerous times, have let it cool off, but still the warning lights wont go away. It is also showing the Service Indicator above the temp on the dash..( A sketch of a car on a service hoist ) I know this is a fault somewhere as obviously the brake pads arent worn out unless the warning solenoid attached to one of the four calipers is faulty. Anyone else have this false warning light showing up??:iono: Looks like back to the stealers this week..
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Swift135 Lieutenant 23 Rep 453 Posts Drives: 330d, M3 DCT E92 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brisbane iTrader: (0)	I had that happen in my second last X5 within a month of purchase. It was a faulty sensor, BMW fixed it . __________________
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d3syd Major 50 Rep 1,474 Posts Drives: 135i MT, LMB, ProNav Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Scamander, Tasmania iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 135i Coupe [0.00]	Sorry to hear that Joe. Must either be the sensor or a computer glitch. They should be able to sort it out pretty quick. I guess that's the problem with cars these days, they are so complex. __________________ Fun Car: 135i Manual LeMans Blue / Beige Leather / Grey Poplar / pro nav / euro plates. Delivered 24 June 08 Family Car: Land Rover Discovery 4 SDV6 Spare Car: Volvo V70 Sydney Car: MB 420SEL
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08-31-2008, 01:22 AM	#7
Zuzu Major General 2816 Rep 7,637 Posts Drives: M2C HS 6MT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sydney Australia iTrader: (0)	Hi there Y..:smile: True mate..have owned BMW's for a long time but have never had this warning unless the brakes where ready for a pad change... Hopefully something simple..Made me slow down a bit on the way home...you never know..:iono:
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amk2912 Lieutenant Colonel 87 Rep 1,663 Posts Drives: '10 X5 40d & '12 F10 520d Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Perth iTrader: (0)	Zuzu - This happened to me after 10,000km in my 130i. It turned out that it was just a software glitch and the tech did some funky stuff with a reset and no probs thereafter. The pads still had heaps of meat on them so obviously an error. __________________ 2012 BMW F10 520d M-Sport 2010 BMW E70 X5 xdrive40d
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08-31-2008, 04:19 AM	#10
cozza ///Mthusiast 136 Rep 1,751 Posts Drives: M135i (March delivery) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	I had the same thing happen a few weeks ago. My dash did what the dealer called "a christmas tree", meaning all sorts of lights started flashing. First, the car told me that the DTC and DSC were faulty, and that I should drive with extreme caution as the systems were not working. A few hours later when I got into the car again, this warning was replaced with "brake pads worn". I dropped into Bib Stillwell the next day, and after about 20 minutes with the car, the problem had been fixed. It was simply a software fault. Our cars are computers after all... obviously PCs rather than Macs... __________________ ///M135i: AUTO \| ALPINE WHITE \| CORAL RED LEATHER \| HEATED SEATS \| SUNROOF \| NAV \| DAB TUNER \| HARMAN KARDON \| PERFORMANCE BITS 'N' PIECES
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Zuzu Major General 2816 Rep 7,637 Posts Drives: M2C HS 6MT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sydney Australia iTrader: (0)	Corey, you have hit the nail on the head mate...:thumbup: You have described the EXACT system malfunction that my car went through. Your recollection of events is far more accurate and precise than mine, but 100% correct.( I think my memory is fading with age ) Well the good news is that it can be rectified by a visit to the dealer. The BAD news.. Is this a going to be a recurring problem with the 1er's.:iono:
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Kris Colonel 123 Rep 2,295 Posts Drives: m3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USOFA iTrader: (0)	Be interesting if they take you to 30.2, ask them Joe what they do. Be interesting to see if an update also fixes the Ipod issue described by Kyle...
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Zuzu Major General 2816 Rep 7,637 Posts Drives: M2C HS 6MT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sydney Australia iTrader: (0)	Will keep you posted of the outcome this week guys.. The thing is that, this fault is not isolated to the 135 as Corey had the same software issue..
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randomquickness Brigadier General 219 Rep 3,668 Posts Drives: 996tt Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Georgetown, TX iTrader: (13)	I am convinced all of our 1ers will throw some sort of fault early in their lives so as to have the software updated to detect piggy backs! lol __________________
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WAY Brigadier General 458 Rep 4,822 Posts Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	Joe, just have a look at the brake pads and you can see if it is worn or not. I really doubt it would be unless they gave you a dodgy (or was it dodgey?) one to start with. At least then you know you can drive it in a normal fashion until you have time to go to your dealer.
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Zuzu Major General 2816 Rep 7,637 Posts Drives: M2C HS 6MT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sydney Australia iTrader: (0)	Hi Swift. My car went in today to have that "Christmas tree" problem resolved and the dealer just rang to say that the car will be kept over night as they are upgrading to 30.2 or higher (whatever that means).:iono: Didnt realise there was a upgrade over the 30.2. Was told that it will have to stay overnight as the download for the upgrade will take approx 9 hours.. Also finally having the High pressure fuel pump replaced.. Will give a report hopefully tomorrow night if I get the car back by weekend.. NEW FUEL PUMP and SOFTWARE UPGRADE.... This should be interesting..:biggrin:
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