135i vs g8 gxp

partapgti · 07-02-2008, 01:54 PM

How do you guys think these cars will stack up. I am in the market for a new car and i have narrowed it down to these cars. both cost around the same. I guess what i am asking is would you buy the gxp over the 135 if you were in the market for a new car. Any info would be great

Thanks

135i is 300hp but 3400 lbs.
g8_gxp is 402hp(LS3) but 4000 lbs.

plien69 · 07-02-2008, 01:55 PM

Two very different cars in different classes. G8 is 5 series size. It might match the 135i in straight line speed, but it most likely won't be nearly as agile.

jeremyc74 · 07-02-2008, 02:28 PM

Just FYI, I had an '05 GTO before the 135i, so I'm no Pontiac hater.

If I needed a car that would haul 4 adults, I'd go with the GXP hands down. It's value/performance ratio simply can't be matched in it's catagory.

If you don't need the space (like me), the 135i is the way to go. The car is fast all around, but it's mind numbing on mountain roads, and will be a lot more fun if you like to do that type of driving.

The GXP seems to be a good handling car for its size, but in the end you can't overcome physics, and it's at least 600lbs heavier than the 135i.

The 135i will get a little better real world gas mileage as well, if that's a consideration for you.

Robert · 07-02-2008, 02:29 PM

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ARES45 · 07-02-2008, 02:45 PM

No I wouldn't, the 135 is large enough for me 95% of the time and I would get a 335 if I wanted more size/4 doors.

The GXP isn't my cup of tea and I don't really care for most of what gm does. I do like the new camaro, but gm is so slow to produce it makes my stomach turn.

So the answer to your question of if I would buy the gxp over the 135i, I wouldn't but that is just me.

ptack · 07-02-2008, 02:46 PM

Apples and oranges. The G8 is a big GM sedan. It may go fast in a straight line, but it's probably as nimble as an elephant. What do you expect for a $30,000, 4000lb car with a 300+ hp engine? They're not making miracles and Pontiac is not exactly a name you associate with high quality. The only GM car that might compare to a 135i would a CTS coupe, which doesn't exist.

corpsman · 07-02-2008, 02:51 PM

It's like comparing a 350 lb offensive lineman with a 220 lb running back.

lib · 07-02-2008, 02:56 PM

A G8 and a 135i are entirely different cars. You might as well start a thread asking if you should buy a Prius or a Hummer.

You need to decide what you need and want in a car and then see what cars fit that bill.

jeremyc74 · 07-02-2008, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptack

Apples and oranges. The G8 is a big GM sedan. It may go fast in a straight line, but it's probably as nimble as an elephant. What do you expect for a $30,000, 4000lb car with a 300+ hp engine? They're not making miracles and Pontiac is not exactly a name you associate with high quality. The only GM car that might compare to a 135i would a CTS coupe, which doesn't exist.

It's a 400Hp+ engine, and the quality is as good as anything on the market right now. The car won several internation awards. If you're going to offer an opinion, at least try to have the facts straight and know what you're talking about.

Watch it on Top Gear (this is the exact same setup the US is getting as the G8 GXP) and tell me you don't think it's nimble for a true 5 passenger car.

Crowley · 07-02-2008, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremyc74

Just FYI, I had an '05 GTO before the 135i, so I'm no Pontiac hater.

If I needed a car that would haul 4 adults, I'd go with the GXP hands down. It's value/performance ratio simply can't be matched in it's catagory.

If you don't need the space (like me), the 135i is the way to go. The car is fast all around, but it's mind numbing on mountain roads, and will be a lot more fun if you like to do that type of driving.

The GXP seems to be a good handling car for its size, but in the end you can't overcome physics, and it's at least 600lbs heavier than the 135i.

The 135i will get a little better real world gas mileage as well, if that's a consideration for you.

Very well said ..... I do think the GXP will be a very nice car for the price

..

Crowley

Genericuser1 · 07-02-2008, 03:45 PM

I know alot of people shop alot of different cars, I know I do but these are two entirely different segments. The G8 is a 5 or 7 series size 4 door sedan whereas the 135 is a compact 2 door coupe. I could see a comparision even to a compact sedan like a 3 series or S4 but not a G8, its just so large. Hell you could compare the Camaro to the 135 at least it has two doors and will be smaller/lighter.

The G8 looks to be a good car and the GXP even better. If I was looking for a large fun family hauler it would be at the top of my list.

avus · 07-02-2008, 03:54 PM

if you are not concerned with holding any residual value in your car, then get the pontiac

while similarly priced when new, the g8 will sink faster than the titanic used

ARES45 · 07-02-2008, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Design1stCode2nd

I know alot of people shop alot of different cars, I know I do but these are two entirely different segments. The G8 is a 5 or 7 series size 4 door sedan whereas the 135 is a compact 2 door coupe. I could see a comparision even to a compact sedan like a 3 series or S4 but not a G8, its just so large. Hell you could compare the Camaro to the 135 at least it has two doors and will be smaller/lighter.

The G8 looks to be a good car and the GXP even better. If I was looking for a large fun family hauler it would be at the top of my list.

If they ever build the Camaro FU GM.

I agree and disagree, they are different segments, but that doesn't mean one couldn't cross-shop them. I think different people shop for cars in different ways. I for example am not limitted by family constraints so what I needed was transportation that could haul my wife and I and a couple of bags and maybe some clubs.
That gives you a broad spectrum.
Next I considered all different kinds of cars to determine the one I wanted the most. My finalists came from what I considered the best of several different segments. (Toyota Tundra, Mazdaspeed3, 135i, caddy ctsv, z4 coupe) In the end I choose the 135i.

Now others define the segment first then pick the car and that is fine, but it doesn't have to be done that way does it? And yet others are limitted do to family constraints, but it is possible that the OP is cross-shopping these vehicles and while as I stated earlier I would go for the 135i he/she may not.

In the end it comes down to what you feel deserves your money and for me it was the 135i.

jeremyc74 · 07-02-2008, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARES45

I agree and disagree, they are different segments, but that doesn't mean one couldn't cross-shop them. I think different people shop for cars in different ways. I for example am not limitted by family constraints so what I needed was transportation that could haul my wife and I and a couple of bags and maybe some clubs.
That gives you a broad spectrum.
Next I considered all different kinds of cars to determine the one I wanted the most. My finalists came from what I considered the best of several different segments. (Toyota Tundra, Mazdaspeed3, 135i, caddy ctsv, z4 coupe) In the end I choose the 135i.

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I agree with you. I'm single with no kids and plenty of disposable income (for gas and mods and such). When I'm shopping for a car, I look at the shortcomings of what I'm currently driving, and then set my budget. After that I start test driving or looking at everything that falls under that budget.

I seriously considered waiting on the GXP, but just decided I wanted something smaller and more nimble. I also test drove a TON of other cars before picking one. I hadn't really even seriously considered BMW this time around and I just happened to stop into the local dealership to see how much the 335i was going for. I was really impressed with it after driving it, and then decided the 135 offered everything I liked in the 335 in a smaller, lighter package, and bought one as soon as I could test drive it.

The GXP has the advantage of being able to haul a couple of buddies with you on a long trip, and still be able to haul ass. With the 135i you have to ride with someone else if there's more than one passenger involved. It's always about trade offs.

imported_Katera · 07-02-2008, 07:04 PM

Pontiac LOL

ptack · 07-02-2008, 08:06 PM

Quote:

It's a 400Hp+ engine, and the quality is as good as anything on the market right now. The car won several internation awards. If you're going to offer an opinion, at least try to have the facts straight and know what you're talking about.

Watch it on Top Gear (this is the exact same setup the US is getting as the G8 GXP) and tell me you don't think it's nimble for a true 5 passenger car.

__________________

Perhaps you better get your facts straight. The car you're talking about is an Australian 'Vauxhall" which is considerably more expensive. The Pontiac version is not yet for sale so it's not clear what you're actually going to get in an American GXP beside the vette engine or what it will cost. The only Pontaic G8 that does exist so far is a well, a Pontiac.

atr_hugo · 07-02-2008, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptack

Australian 'Vauxhall"

You mean Holden, Vauxhall is the English GM. And don't forget the Pontiac Vibe, built by Toyota. ; -)

lib · 07-02-2008, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptack

Perhaps you better get your facts straight. The car you're talking about is an Australian 'Vauxhall"

It's actually a Holden Commodore in Australia. They just happen to sell a version of it under the Vauxhall brand in the UK.

Though, if GM files for bankruptcy as people keep suggesting....

PA135i · 07-02-2008, 08:14 PM

The only similarity is the double kidney grill. It ends there.

Steve135i · 07-02-2008, 08:34 PM

The G8 GXP is a Holden car which will be a very nice car if you need room. Its not a typical GM product. It should be alot of fun for a big car. The only other GM product as nice would be a Cadilac IMO.

To compare the G8 GXP to the 135i is like comparing a 60" Plasma to an HD projector with a 120" screen. Two totally different things that each do both very good in there own way.

imported_Sinner · 07-02-2008, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atr_hugo

You mean Holden, Vauxhall is the English GM. And don't forget the Pontiac Vibe, built by Toyota. ; -)

Don't forget BMW sources it's 5 spd autos from GM and Ferrari gets the suspension for the 599GTB from GM.

Vauxhall isn't the English GM, it's the English version of Opel. Granted they're both owned by GM.

To whoever said the CTS coupe doesn't exist, it does. It was green lit, is in final testing and will be here in a year. There's also a V version rumored.

Berduderunner · 07-02-2008, 08:42 PM

man o man the GXP is fast off the lot... both are 4.7 0-60 and im sure the GXP traps higher than a 135, but honestly coming from a big ass american V8 (Charger R/T Daytona) i can tell you the 1 is a whole different ball game.

and if your looking to mod... how can you say no to 13lbs. of boost on a twin turbo?

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partapgti New Member 3 Rep 19 Posts Drives: Join Date: Jul 2008 iTrader: (0)	135i vs g8 gxp How do you guys think these cars will stack up. I am in the market for a new car and i have narrowed it down to these cars. both cost around the same. I guess what i am asking is would you buy the gxp over the 135 if you were in the market for a new car. Any info would be great Thanks 135i is 300hp but 3400 lbs. g8_gxp is 402hp(LS3) but 4000 lbs.
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plien69 Captain 22 Rep 841 Posts Drives: 2014 M235i Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	Two very different cars in different classes. G8 is 5 series size. It might match the 135i in straight line speed, but it most likely won't be nearly as agile.
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jeremyc74 Banned 76 Rep 5,970 Posts Drives: '08 135i Montego/Terra Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Evansville, IN iTrader: (0)	Just FYI, I had an '05 GTO before the 135i, so I'm no Pontiac hater. If I needed a car that would haul 4 adults, I'd go with the GXP hands down. It's value/performance ratio simply can't be matched in it's catagory. If you don't need the space (like me), the 135i is the way to go. The car is fast all around, but it's mind numbing on mountain roads, and will be a lot more fun if you like to do that type of driving. The GXP seems to be a good handling car for its size, but in the end you can't overcome physics, and it's at least 600lbs heavier than the 135i. The 135i will get a little better real world gas mileage as well, if that's a consideration for you.
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Robert Major General 417 Rep 6,968 Posts Drives: 135i -> is350 -> Tesla M3 perf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Socal iTrader: (1)	similar discussions http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...hlight=pontiac __________________ - There's nothing in my pocket other than knives and lint
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ARES45 Major 34 Rep 1,002 Posts Drives: Join Date: Oct 2007 iTrader: (0)	No I wouldn't, the 135 is large enough for me 95% of the time and I would get a 335 if I wanted more size/4 doors. The GXP isn't my cup of tea and I don't really care for most of what gm does. I do like the new camaro, but gm is so slow to produce it makes my stomach turn. So the answer to your question of if I would buy the gxp over the 135i, I wouldn't but that is just me. __________________ "Don't run, you'll only die tired" ~ Gunship Pilot
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ptack Brigadier General 269 Rep 4,470 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2008 Location: NJ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 135i [6.50]	Apples and oranges. The G8 is a big GM sedan. It may go fast in a straight line, but it's probably as nimble as an elephant. What do you expect for a $30,000, 4000lb car with a 300+ hp engine? They're not making miracles and Pontiac is not exactly a name you associate with high quality. The only GM car that might compare to a 135i would a CTS coupe, which doesn't exist. __________________ 135i, SGM, Coral, Sport Package, Auto, Premium Hifi, USB/ipod, Apex EC-7s, PPK Stage II
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corpsman 130 kmh, yeah right. 1 Rep 194 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Montego,6MT, Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Landstuhl,Germany iTrader: (0)	It's like comparing a 350 lb offensive lineman with a 220 lb running back.
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lib Major 141 Rep 1,401 Posts Drives: <This space for rent> Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: ATX iTrader: (0)	A G8 and a 135i are entirely different cars. You might as well start a thread asking if you should buy a Prius or a Hummer. You need to decide what you need and want in a car and then see what cars fit that bill.
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Genericuser1 Captain 22 Rep 661 Posts Drives: M3 Convertible Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: usa iTrader: (0)	I know alot of people shop alot of different cars, I know I do but these are two entirely different segments. The G8 is a 5 or 7 series size 4 door sedan whereas the 135 is a compact 2 door coupe. I could see a comparision even to a compact sedan like a 3 series or S4 but not a G8, its just so large. Hell you could compare the Camaro to the 135 at least it has two doors and will be smaller/lighter. The G8 looks to be a good car and the GXP even better. If I was looking for a large fun family hauler it would be at the top of my list.
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avus Private First Class 19 Rep 158 Posts Drives: Join Date: May 2008 iTrader: (0)	if you are not concerned with holding any residual value in your car, then get the pontiac while similarly priced when new, the g8 will sink faster than the titanic used
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Steve135i First Lieutenant 5 Rep 304 Posts Drives: Join Date: Jun 2008 iTrader: (0)	The G8 GXP is a Holden car which will be a very nice car if you need room. Its not a typical GM product. It should be alot of fun for a big car. The only other GM product as nice would be a Cadilac IMO. To compare the G8 GXP to the 135i is like comparing a 60" Plasma to an HD projector with a 120" screen. Two totally different things that each do both very good in there own way.
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Berduderunner drk one 38 Rep 797 Posts Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tampa/Orlando iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 e90 335i [0.00] 2008 135i [0.00]	man o man the GXP is fast off the lot... both are 4.7 0-60 and im sure the GXP traps higher than a 135, but honestly coming from a big ass american V8 (Charger R/T Daytona) i can tell you the 1 is a whole different ball game. and if your looking to mod... how can you say no to 13lbs. of boost on a twin turbo?
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