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      04-15-2019, 11:41 AM   #1
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Does lowering with H&R Springs make tires have more wear?

I was just told that lowering the X5M will make more wear on my front tires. Tech told me I'd be lucky to get 8,000 miles out of them. Any input would be great.
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I was just told that lowering the X5M will make more wear on my front tires. Tech told me I'd be lucky to get 8,000 miles out of them. Any input would be great.
You might get a little inner tire wear from camber but not that bad.
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I was just told that lowering the X5M will make more wear on my front tires. Tech told me I'd be lucky to get 8,000 miles out of them. Any input would be great.
You might get a little inner tire wear from camber but not that bad.
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I was just told that lowering the X5M will make more wear on my front tires. Tech told me I'd be lucky to get 8,000 miles out of them. Any input would be great.
You might get a little inner tire wear from camber but not that bad.

From what I'm reading, it appears to be an issue without lowering the vehicle. I have 20 inch tires and wish there was an all season tire available.
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It will all depend on your alignment settings. The X5 has very aggressive rear camber settings stock, and tend to have inner tire wear issues from the factory. Lowering a car will
Only make it lower to the ground, but if the alignment settings are adjusted to accommodate, you shouldn’t have any additional issues.
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It will all depend on your alignment settings. The X5 has very aggressive rear camber settings stock, and tend to have inner tire wear issues from the factory. Lowering a car will
Only make it lower to the ground, but if the alignment settings are adjusted to accommodate, you shouldn't have any additional issues.
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I was just told that lowering the X5M will make more wear on my front tires. Tech told me I'd be lucky to get 8,000 miles out of them. Any input would be great.
You might get a little inner tire wear from camber but not that bad.
Yes, they were able to setup a new alignment that looked close to the original numbers as they gave me the print out sheets.
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Stock F15/F16 X5/X6 and F85/F86 X5M/X6M have low tire life.
In average, about 12k miles.

Lowering it, will give you more negative camber.
While camber doesn't shorten the tire life. What makes you tire wears out faster is toe setting.
So, when you lower, you need to bring the toe setting to stock spec.
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Is it recommended to do an alignment right away when lowering w/springs? Or waiting a few weeks for them to 'settle'?
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Is it recommended to do an alignment right away when lowering w/springs? Or waiting a few weeks for them to 'settle'?
I'd wait a few to allow the springs to settle.
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Is it recommended to do an alignment right away when lowering w/springs? Or waiting a few weeks for them to 'settle'?
Wait a few weeks to let the spring settle.
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I was just told that lowering the X5M will make more wear on my front tires. Tech told me I'd be lucky to get 8,000 miles out of them. Any input would be great.
You might get a little inner tire wear from camber but not that bad.
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I was just told that lowering the X5M will make more wear on my front tires. Tech told me I'd be lucky to get 8,000 miles out of them. Any input would be great.
You might get a little inner tire wear from camber but not that bad.

From what I'm reading, it appears to be an issue without lowering the vehicle. I have 20 inch tires and wish there was an all season tire available.
???? There's plenty of all season tires available for 20"...
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Stock F15/F16 X5/X6 and F85/F86 X5M/X6M have low tire life.
In average, about 12k miles.

Lowering it, will give you more negative camber.
While camber doesn't shorten the tire life. What makes you tire wears out faster is toe setting.
So, when you lower, you need to bring the toe setting to stock spec.
Not sure how more negative camber doesn't affect tire wear. Negative camber puts more bias on the inner edge of the tire causing it to wear faster. Most all Sport cars have this issue due to the oem negative camber. I used to get it bad on my non lowered AMG that was within oem parameters. I used to ask them when adjusting to error on the more "positive" end of the acceptable range to help fight it.
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I was just told that lowering the X5M will make more wear on my front tires. Tech told me I'd be lucky to get 8,000 miles out of them. Any input would be great.
You might get a little inner tire wear from camber but not that bad.
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I was just told that lowering the X5M will make more wear on my front tires. Tech told me I'd be lucky to get 8,000 miles out of them. Any input would be great.
You might get a little inner tire wear from camber but not that bad.

From what I'm reading, it appears to be an issue without lowering the vehicle. I have 20 inch tires and wish there was an all season tire available.
???? There's plenty of all season tires available for 20"...
I've not seen any all season tires for the X5M with 20 inch tires. If you know of any please let me know. They do not have to be run flats.
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Not sure how more negative camber doesn't affect tire wear. Negative camber puts more bias on the inner edge of the tire causing it to wear faster. Most all Sport cars have this issue due to the oem negative camber. I used to get it bad on my non lowered AMG that was within oem parameters. I used to ask them when adjusting to error on the more "positive" end of the acceptable range to help fight it.
Based on my experience, it doesn't change the tire wear as drastically as mis-aligned toe.
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Not sure how more negative camber doesn't affect tire wear. Negative camber puts more bias on the inner edge of the tire causing it to wear faster. Most all Sport cars have this issue due to the oem negative camber. I used to get it bad on my non lowered AMG that was within oem parameters. I used to ask them when adjusting to error on the more "positive" end of the acceptable range to help fight it.
Based on my experience, it doesn't change the tire wear as drastically as mis-aligned toe.
This is my experience with negative camber. Im sure toe will do premature wear as well but most cars aren't set up to have toe offsets while they are designed to utilize negative camber.
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I was just told that lowering the X5M will make more wear on my front tires. Tech told me I'd be lucky to get 8,000 miles out of them. Any input would be great.
You might get a little inner tire wear from camber but not that bad.
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I was just told that lowering the X5M will make more wear on my front tires. Tech told me I'd be lucky to get 8,000 miles out of them. Any input would be great.
You might get a little inner tire wear from camber but not that bad.

From what I'm reading, it appears to be an issue without lowering the vehicle. I have 20 inch tires and wish there was an all season tire available.
???? There's plenty of all season tires available for 20"...
I've not seen any all season tires for the X5M with 20 inch tires. If you know of any please let me know. They do not have to be run flats.
Haha boom found one.
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This is my experience with negative camber. Im sure toe will do premature wear as well but most cars aren't set up to have toe offsets while they are designed to utilize negative camber.
That looks exactly like my rear stock tires which prompted me to upgrade to 22's.
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Not sure how more negative camber doesn't affect tire wear. Negative camber puts more bias on the inner edge of the tire causing it to wear faster. Most all Sport cars have this issue due to the oem negative camber. I used to get it bad on my non lowered AMG that was within oem parameters. I used to ask them when adjusting to error on the more "positive" end of the acceptable range to help fight it.
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