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      10-15-2018, 02:08 PM   #1
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Talking CSF M4 Cooling Mods quick review, video & pictures!




Top Mount Dual-Pas Charge-Air-Cooler (CSF #8082)

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- Multiple air dividers cast into both the hot/cold side end tanks for optimized air flow through the custom designed CSF liquid-to-air intercooler core (CFD analysis and testing completed to ensure optimal performance)
**60% increase in core size compared to the OEM cooler.
- Left/right, cross-flow, dual-pass core configuration with 2-stage water cooling for maximum efficiency and intake temperature reduction (vs. OEM single-pass vertical-flow design)
- Designed with 3D scanning / rapid prototype technology to ensure precise fitment and maximum surface area utilization.
- “Drop-in fit” design for an easy & quick plug-and-play installation.
- Complete with OEM style “Quick-Connect” water connections and sensor ports.

Front Mount Heat Exchanger ( CSF #8075 / #8075R)

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- 2-row 42mm core (dual core) featuring CSF’s exclusive B-tube technology
- Core features an ultra-efficient fin with 6.5mm fin height and multi-louvered design for maximum surface area contact
- Dual-pass flow structure allows the coolant to flow across the core of the radiator 2 times before exiting the radiator for the lowest outlet temperature possible (OEM style design)
- CNC machined, OEM style “quick-connect” inlet/outlet connections
- CNC machined, OEM style mounting brackets & fittings for superb fit and durability
- Includes removable aluminum rock guard
- All-aluminum race style drain plug
- 1 hour “mirror finish” hand polish
- “Drop-in fit” requiring no modifications to install. Accepts all attaching OEM components including “quick-connect” hoses, mounting brackets, OEM X-brace, and all air ducting/shrouding.
- CSF #8075 – 45 row design – no modifications necessary
- CSF #8075R – 50 row ultimate race-spec design (limited availability)
Requires some modification including trimming to bottom side of upper core support.

Dual-Pass Race-Spec DCT Transmission Cooler (CSF #8081)

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- Made with CSF’s AC condenser technology using a 1-row super-high pressure 26mm multi-channel microtube
- Dual-pass high performance core with 10 cooling tubes vs. OEM single-pass with return pipe 6 tube design.
- High-density multi-louvered fin design.
- “Drop-in fit” requiring no modifications to install. Accepts all attaching OEM components including oil-line connections, mounting brackets, and shroud/ducting
- Lab tested at ~30% more efficient than the OEM cooler
- World’s 1st and only true “plug-and-play” upgraded DCT transmission cooler for the BMW S55 engine in the BMW F8x m3/m4 (F80 m3, F82/F83 m4)

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I plan on comparing CSF numbers vs stock once the weather warms up again. Ambient temp now is 30 degree cooler than when we did our stock test.

I already have forum members complaining that i have not done the tests yet (some have even voiced their displeasure in other threads).

Please note i am doing this for my own sake and posting it for the benefit of others. Testing requires me to take time off work and use my personal money to pay for dyno or track day.

I have no obligation to anyone to get the tests done within a certain time frame. I will do it when i have the time.
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Why did you went with pink? Rumors says pink reduce IAT the most. Is that true? :
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Why did you went with pink? Rumors says pink reduce IAT the most. Is that true? :
100% , pink is the go to color for serious drivers

This is Jenny's M4, she handles all our social media accounts... Shes going to do a pink and gold build
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While I love my CSF heat exchanger and DCT cooler, they did require a bit of "trimming" in certain areas.

Nice spokeswoman though.
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While I love my CSF heat exchanger and DCT cooler, they did require a bit of "trimming" in certain areas.

Nice spokeswoman though.
Thank you

Which heat exchanger did you get? The performance version is plug and play, the race version needs cutting
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While I love my CSF heat exchanger and DCT cooler, they did require a bit of "trimming" in certain areas.

Nice spokeswoman though.
Thank you

Which heat exchanger did you get? The performance version is plug and play, the race version needs cutting
Gotcha. I did in fact get the race version.
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100% , pink is the go to color for serious drivers

This is Jenny's M4, she handles all our social media accounts... Shes going to do a pink and gold build
What's going to be gold?
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Why did you went with pink? Rumors says pink reduce IAT the most. Is that true? :
Not hot pink, though, hot pink might heat up your car...
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What's going to be gold?
Charge pipes for sure, not sure about the engine hood and intake yet.
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What's going to be gold?
Charge pipes for sure, not sure about the engine hood and intake yet.
Why don't you ask CSF to pay for you tests since they can't do it themselves?

Funny how VF keep talking and talking about their supercharger and every other tune but not once they spoke about the heat exchanger that they "designed" with actual data.
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Thank you

Which heat exchanger did you get? The performance version is plug and play, the race version needs cutting
I was told from another vendor that they all require cutting so I didn't pull the plug, another reason how cringy their thread was with VF beating around the bush for months and months with no data until the thread died.
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Thank you

Which heat exchanger did you get? The performance version is plug and play, the race version needs cutting
I was told from another vendor that they all require cutting so I didn't pull the plug, another reason how cringy their thread was with VF beating around the bush for months and months with no data until the thread died.
Cutting is minimal.
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Thank you

Which heat exchanger did you get? The performance version is plug and play, the race version needs cutting
I was told from another vendor that they all require cutting so I didn't pull the plug, another reason how cringy their thread was with VF beating around the bush for months and months with no data until the thread died.
That's correct, all intercoolers requires cutting. There's no intercooler on market that is plug and play because it's impossible.

It's not that bad actually, the real trimming is when you get the race version.
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How do the weights of these CSF products compare to their stock counterparts?
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has anyone done any data logging before / after yet?
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How do the weights of these CSF products compare to their stock counterparts?
The charge cooler is 15.5 pounds.
- I think the OEM is ~8 pounds.
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has anyone done any data logging before / after yet?
Nope not even the manufacturer or vendors who have installed and marketing it
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has anyone done any data logging before / after yet?
Nope not even the manufacturer or vendors who have installed and marketing it
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has anyone done any data logging before / after yet?
Nope not even the manufacturer or vendors who have installed and marketing it
You know what's funnier? They swore that it makes a difference and on their Instagram they keep posting the same post of how they product is better than OEM. Not once was posted about F8X cooling AIT channel log.

But I don't blame CSF for that. I blame those who buys them without asking for proves of CSF website claim.
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You know what's funnier? They swore that it makes a difference and on their Instagram they keep posting the same post of how they product is better than OEM. Not once was posted about F8X cooling AIT channel log.

But I don't blame CSF for that. I blame those who buys them without asking for proves of CSF website claim.
EOS dynoed their solution. 7 whp / 15 wtq on stock ZCP.

https://www.eospeed.com/collections/...nt-intercooler
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has anyone done any data logging before / after yet?
They have zero proof it does anything better, I was ready to buy but there was nothing they could tell me it does better than OEM so I passed on it
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