Performance Center M3s

kablammo · 06-29-2018, 11:38 AM

Just an FYI - There a hand full of Performance Center M3s going through wholesale auction (Closed auction for BMW dealers only) that will be hitting dealer lots soon. Most are under 7k miles and are NOT CPO eligible.

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uniqueMR · 06-29-2018, 12:09 PM

HPIA4v2 · 06-29-2018, 12:29 PM

7k miles cars that are not CPO-able, AVOID!

IK6SPEED · 06-29-2018, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kablammo

Just an FYI - There a hand full of Performance Center M3s going through wholesale auction (Closed auction for BMW dealers only) that will be hitting dealer lots soon. Most are under 7k miles and are NOT CPO eligible.

-k

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Originally Posted by HPIA4v2

7k miles cars that are not CPO-able, AVOID!

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1409452

Darth One · 06-29-2018, 12:36 PM

Just a heads up for the buyer of the YMB M3 with black interior - I may have pooped myself a little in the passenger seat during an instructor hot lap. Sorry!

jdarwin · 06-29-2018, 02:16 PM

I wouldn't buy the M3 I abused at my 1-day M school. I'll take the CC brakes though....

kablammo · 06-29-2018, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jdarwin

I wouldn't buy the M3 I abused at my 1-day M school. I'll take the CC brakes though....

Did any of them perform badly? I was just out there (spectator) and can say with certainty that they must suffer from some serious heat soak issues when pressed hard for more than 20 mins.

gatorfast · 06-29-2018, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jdarwin

I wouldn't buy the M3 I abused at my 1-day M school. I'll take the CC brakes though....

Did any of them perform badly? I was just out there (spectator) and can say with certainty that they must suffer from some serious heat soak issues when pressed hard for more than 20 mins.

That has not been my experience nor have I heard anyone else say that. I attended the M track day event down here in south Florida with 90+ degree heat and high humidity and the cars performed flawlessly all day run after run.

allinon72 · 06-29-2018, 10:47 PM

At the right price, I wouldn't have a problem. That's the key though....dealers WILL try to screw you on these

calbears · 06-29-2018, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kablammo

Did any of them perform badly? I was just out there (spectator) and can say with certainty that they must suffer from some serious heat soak issues when pressed hard for more than 20 mins.

I had a few issues during a 2 Day M School in July at Thermal. It was 120+ ambient, so track was much hotter. Reduced power once and lost power steering towards the end of the session. The M2 I drove on the short autocross also lost power steering, but I was the only one to experience those issues

allinon72 · 06-30-2018, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kablammo

Did any of them perform badly? I was just out there (spectator) and can say with certainty that they must suffer from some serious heat soak issues when pressed hard for more than 20 mins.

Doubtful - one of the strong suits of the F8x is cooling. And I doubt the Performance Center would push the cars to failure because that would be a little embarrassing.

Ibiza · 06-30-2018, 04:33 PM

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At the right price, I wouldn't have a problem. That's the key though....dealers WILL try to screw you on these

Your out of your mind to consider one of these PC vehicles considering issues that others have had in the past.

allinon72 · 06-30-2018, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibiza

Your out of your mind to consider one of these PC vehicles considering issues that others have had in the past.

What if someone was looking for a track car? Like I said, at the right price.

Ibiza · 06-30-2018, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibiza

Your out of your mind to consider one of these PC vehicles considering issues that others have had in the past.

What if someone was looking for a track car? Like I said, at the right price.

Are you willing to go self insured aka no warranty? Order yourself a M4 GT4

for a proper track car.

Ibiza · 06-30-2018, 09:38 PM

I hope the front passenger bumper of this M3 from December 2017 is fixed prior to auction.

kablammo · 07-02-2018, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by allinon72

At the right price, I wouldn't have a problem. That's the key though....dealers WILL try to screw you on these

Indeed for the right price anything is attractive. Being it's a closed sale (BMW dealers only) they will think they are gold.

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Originally Posted by Ibiza

Your out of your mind to consider one of these PC vehicles considering issues that others have had in the past.

What issues were others' experiencing?

-k

SMGCFP · 07-02-2018, 09:12 AM

I'd consider anything at the right price. I'd be a buyer at 40-45k. But, these cars will likely sell to unsuspecting people thinking they're getting a "like new", or "demo", at a great price. Probably in the 62-68k range depending on how they're equipped. Maybe more even...what do I know? The fact that they cannot be CPO'd devalues the cars quite a bit, but like I suggested, some people don't know any better.

UnderPSI · 07-02-2018, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibiza

Your out of your mind to consider one of these PC vehicles considering issues that others have had in the past.

What issues did they have? Just curious

alex2364 · 07-02-2018, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kablammo

Indeed for the right price anything is attractive. Being it's a closed sale (BMW dealers only) they will think they are gold.

What issues were others' experiencing?

-k

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Originally Posted by UnderPSI

What issues did they have? Just curious

Read this http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1409452

allinon72 · 07-02-2018, 09:14 PM

Besides that one car, which to be quite honest, is just a vibration issue, I haven't seen any other threads where a PC car has had major issues. I'm not saying that justifies some of the prices that dealers are charging for them, but it does speak to the robust s55 drivetrain.

ChuMpion3 · 07-04-2018, 08:58 AM

Agree that dealers will try to screw buyers on these ($55k+). Just goes to show you...press a dealer for the details when inquiring about a used car. They will only share what they have to, so get the answers you need before buying.

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