Steel driveshaft being used yet?

EstrlM3 · 03-13-2018, 04:33 PM

Anyone get steel driveshaft yet?

f82fanatic · 03-13-2018, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by EstrlM3

Anyone get steel driveshaft yet?

Why is everybody freaking out about the driveshaft??? I just don't get it

jninja · 03-13-2018, 09:19 PM

From what I understand, CF shafts are still being manufactured on the M3 to this day... but if I'm wrong, someone please correct me.

2SNAILS · 03-13-2018, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jninja

From what I understand, CF shafts are still being manufactured on the M3 to this day... but if I'm wrong, someone please correct me.

This is true and there wont be any steel shafts to the end of production!

einscot · 03-13-2018, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by EstrlM3

Anyone get steel driveshaft yet?

Why is everybody freaking out about the driveshaft??? I just don't get it

weight savings bruh. imagine how terrible this car will perform if there's a weight differential from what R&T or C&D reviewed? it's catas-f'in-trophic.

don't you lift, bruh?

4DRS55 · 03-13-2018, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 2SNAILS

This is true and there wont be any steel shafts to the end of production!

You sure about this

shay2nak · 03-14-2018, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 2SNAILS

This is true and there wont be any steel shafts to the end of production!

freaking unbelievable. I had to rush my order in because it was supposed to switch over last November builds. I could have waited another month, which would have been much better for me/how I originally wanted it.

gatorfast · 03-14-2018, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by f82fanatic

Why is everybody freaking out about the driveshaft??? I just don't get it

Me neither

Aside from the fact that I dont think anyone has actually received the dreaded steel shaft yet, do people really think BMW would replace a part which materially alters the performance of the car? Me thinks not.

HPIA4v2 · 03-14-2018, 08:33 AM

LOL, I was cheapskate, was worried about steel-shaft, try to get Nov build by shopping hard in October, no dealers would entertain my offers so I brush it off and wait.
Boom...., Nov incentives came in rolling (actually locked Dec incentive which is even better), I sweeten the offer a bit and one dealer bit, good if I still have CF shaft, got my car last month, but too lazy to jack it up and peek under there. Maybe it's true, good things come to those who wait

DDR MFS · 03-14-2018, 09:51 AM

My car is now in production (should be completed today) and as far as I know, the formula is/was not altered and will remain until F80 production concludes later in the year.

G35POPPEDMYCHERRY · 03-14-2018, 10:23 AM

i got a plastic driveshaft

Nikolas · 03-14-2018, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

i got a plastic driveshaft

Technically yes you do!....CFRP.

firedown31 · 03-14-2018, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gatorfast

Me neither

Aside from the fact that I dont think anyone has actually received the dreaded steel shaft yet, do people really think BMW would replace a part which materially alters the performance of the car? Me thinks not.

Yes a lot of us do. And they have to change the part if they still want to continue selling their cars. The M3 may stay CF to the end which is only a few more months (October this year for US). But the M4 is staying in production for another couple of years and if they don't change to a steel shaft for more room for the particle filter they need to fit, because of new emission regulations, they won't be selling cars anymore.

Graves · 03-14-2018, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

i got a plastic driveshaft

Lmao

gatorfast · 03-14-2018, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by firedown31

Yes a lot of us do. And they have to change the part if they still want to continue selling their cars. The M3 may stay CF to the end which is only a few more months (October this year for US). But the M4 is staying in production for another couple of years and if they don't change to a steel shaft for more room for the particle filter they need to fit, because of new emission regulations, they won't be selling cars anymore.

So you think the steel driveshaft will materially affect the performance of the car? Why would anyone buy an M4 if it no longer performed as well as earlier model years? I just dont see BMW doing that. Mind you I am not saying that BMW wont eventually replace the CFRP with steel, I am just saying I dont think it will impact the cars performance in any noticeable way.

FlyingLow78 · 03-14-2018, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EstrlM3

Anyone get steel driveshaft yet?

My car finished production 23 Feb and it has the carbon driveshaft.

Clark_Kent · 03-14-2018, 03:17 PM

Add this to the growing list of items that are sensationalized on this forum. Who cares about the driveshaft? Just order your car and enjoy it.

EstrlM3 · 03-14-2018, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingLow78

My car finished production 23 Feb and it has the carbon driveshaft.

What country are you in?

FlyingLow78 · 03-14-2018, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Clark_Kent

Add this to the growing list of items that are sensationalized on this forum. Who cares about the driveshaft? Just order your car and enjoy it.

For those of us who are (or very recently were) in the market for a new M3, a lot of us care. I don't want a car equipped to a lower standard than every other M3 built since 2014.

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What country are you in?

Italy, with a US-spec car.

EstrlM3 · 03-14-2018, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingLow78

For those of us who are (or very recently were) in the market for a new M3, a lot of us care. I don't want a car equipped to a lower standard than every other M3 built since 2014.

Italy, with a US-spec car.

Great news! Mine finished production the same week as you so I assume it will also be CF.

gatorfast · 03-15-2018, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FlyingLow78

For those of us who are (or very recently were) in the market for a new M3, a lot of us care. I don't want a car equipped to a lower standard than every other M3 built since 2014.

I think that is the faulty assumption, that it is in fact some how "less than" previous M3/4s. Do you really think someone will be able to tell the difference between an M3 with the CF drive shaft and one with the steel one?

HPIA4v2 · 03-15-2018, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorfast

I think that is the faulty assumption, that it is in fact some how "less than" previous M3/4s. Do you really think someone will be able to tell the difference between an M3 with the CF drive shaft and one with the steel one?

I think what FlyingLow is saying it is false advertising by BMW, it's in the glossy M3 catalog of 2017 (I believe) saying M3/M4 have CF shaft even picture and sales-pitch why BMW goes with lightweight shaft blah-blah.. then you get steel shaft that is cheaper and heavier.

Let say, God forbids, Comp package is de-tuned back to 425HP due to wheel spin and safety reasoning..... and IMHO 99% drivers here won't notice the different in daily driving but it's wrong to advertise 444Hp for Comp package but not deliver it.
We can keep going to suspension next if we argue "can you tell the different while driving..." being changed etc.

I remember Infiniti Q45 back 15 years ago get sued by owners for false advertising in HP numbers.

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