893 e92 m3 forsale on autotrader

bkms1 · 05-23-2008, 12:28 PM

dosent look there moving. Im sure deals can be had for buyers

ihyln · 05-23-2008, 12:29 PM

probably all manuals, right?

bkms1 · 05-23-2008, 01:03 PM

no not really several cabs and dct tranny cars. I think there just not selling

ArtPE · 05-23-2008, 01:08 PM

BMW has sold 10k worldwide so far...
and you are talking about 900 cars in a country of 300,000,000 people...

look how many 997's pop up...>1500

bkms1 · 05-23-2008, 01:12 PM

The recession is in the United states. The car has just been introduced. The 997 has been out a few years

MDCTFTW · 05-23-2008, 01:21 PM

Who cares?

ArtPE · 05-23-2008, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bkms1

The recession is in the United states. The car has just been introduced. The 997 has been out a few years

I'm not sure what the point is, or even of this thread...

I've never heard that we are in a 'recession'...
but it doesn't matter, there is more money on the world market every day...so there may be less here, but that means there will be more elsewhere...money is generated, it doesn't evaporate, it just goes somewhere elses...

the point is, the M3 is a higher selling volume car than the 997, and yet there are LESS on the market...
I only looked at 2008+ 997's

since the M3 has been recently introduced, I would expect to see MORE of them on the market...not less than the 997...

jaiman · 05-23-2008, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtPE

BMW has sold 10k worldwide so far...

Source?

Davinhci · 05-23-2008, 01:56 PM

WTF who cares, a lot of those listing states in fine print at the bottom that sometimes the ars are no longer there but havene't taken them off yet. Some dealers list like they have 4 or 5 in stock but when you call or email them they say it's not there.

ArtPE · 05-23-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jaiman

Source?

dig it up yourself...

but consider this...Australia is <2% of total BMW sales, and close to 300 have been sold there, maybe more...that would imply 100/2 x 300 ~15k worldwide...and they just went on sale here...

look at US serial numbers...

almost up to 4000, and yet only ~1000 on the market...must mean they sold 75% or 3000 so far...

10,000 is probably not a current no., it's more...
they just made more initially, so people wouldn't walk...Americans are impatient and want instant gratification...

440hpe46 · 05-23-2008, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bkms1

The recession is in the United states. The car has just been introduced. The 997 has been out a few years

Recession??? You must have inside information that Bernanke doesn't...

There is more supply than that with the e46...demand may be lower due to the mass market 'fear' that has been growing, but I'm sure the new M is selling fine...

There are polls and figures showing that the highline auction lanes are beginning to feel a little pressure and many polls showing that owners of high end cars are willing to keep their current vehicles until they get an indication of where the economy is truly headed...

And US numbers should be published in the upcoming months...

I'm not quite sure what the point of threads like this are, somehow trying to detract from how great the new M is even if it is due to a slow economy...

The new M is great...

JEllis · 05-23-2008, 02:06 PM

Is this a bad thing, a good thing, or does it mean absolutely nothing!

ArtPE · 05-23-2008, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JEllis

Is this a bad thing, a good thing, or does it mean absolutely nothing!

Leg · 05-23-2008, 02:19 PM

Maybe the OP could go buy one and then he wouldnt be driving 'nothing'.

How much IS a bus pass these days anyway?

spike357 · 05-23-2008, 02:34 PM

Desert BMW Las Vegas has 15 335s in stock. I guess they are not selling either.

OMG The Lamborghini dealer has two Gallardos. I guess they are not selling either. Give me a break people! Cars usually need to be in stock to be available to sell. That's what dealerships are for.

icemang17 · 05-23-2008, 02:54 PM

The general rule in the car biz is they sell as many cars as they build....and dealerships sell as many cars as the builder gives them to sell.....simple math..... However when production does exceed demand the automakers offer incentives to move dealer inventory.... Honestly I hope M3's are not selling that well......that means I can get a better interest rate on mine next month!! :>)

UltimateBMW · 05-23-2008, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtPE

dig it up yourself...

but consider this...Australia is <2% of total BMW sales, and close to 300 have been sold there, maybe more...that would imply 100/2 x 300 ~15k worldwide...and they just went on sale here...

look at US serial numbers...

almost up to 4000, and yet only ~1000 on the market...must mean they sold 75% or 3000 so far...

10,000 is probably not a current no., it's more...
they just made more initially, so people wouldn't walk...Americans are impatient and want instant gratification...

Thats not really how it works here mate. You can't just make up a number in your head then argue it as fact. If your going to make bold claims and front that you know what you are talking about... I suggest that you actually know what you are talking about with proper documentation. This is a forum of owners of a $70k car, you think that we won't ask for sources to verify information? What an immature response.

ArtPE · 05-23-2008, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UltimateBMW

Thats not really how it works here mate. You can't just make up a number in your head then argue it as fact. If your going to make bold claims and front that you know what you are talking about... I suggest that you actually know what you are talking about with proper documentation. This is a forum of owners of a $70k car, you think that we won't ask for sources to verify information? What an immature response.

practice what you preach...
you make it sound like someone who can afford a 70k car is somehow better (or that 70k is a lot of $$, btw MSRP sedan ~54k, coupe ~57k, not 70k) or more intelligent, than someone who can't, or chooses not to...

it works, the way I choose it to work...as long as I remain civil and respectful, and don't toss insults around...now maybe you should heed that advice...

you probably got someone to do your homework for you too

mate

dosserj · 05-23-2008, 03:58 PM

It is definitely moving towards a buyer's market and dealers are realizing it. I was offered $4K off MSRP for a sedan last week. But I am looking for a DCT coupe. I keep expecting to see some DCTs rolling into the dealers' lots but I have yet to see any in South Texas. Anyone have any luck finding DCTs sitting on the lots?

Davinhci · 05-23-2008, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtPE

practice what you preach...
you make it sound like someone who can afford a 70k car is somehow better (or that 70k is a lot of $$, btw MSRP sedan ~54k, coupe ~57k, not 70k) or more intelligent, than someone who can't, or chooses not to...

it works, the way I choose it to work...as long as I remain civil and respectful, and don't toss insults around...now maybe you should heed that advice...

you probably got someone to do your homework for you too

mate

Mine was ~70K not ~57K

MDCTFTW · 05-23-2008, 04:33 PM

People worried about a recession shouldn't be spending 70k on a car.

BTW, mine was almost 78k out the door after all was said and done.

jm1234 · 05-23-2008, 05:32 PM

I once owned a nice car that didn't sell well initially. It meant that:

1) After a while parts were scarce and expensive.
2) Qualified and experienced mechanics were hard to find.
3) Resale was good because the odds improved that I was the one selling to the fanatic that just "had to have" the car. This probably only works with "cool" cars. I don't think this helped the Gremlin much.

I imagine that if sales are slow there could be better deals but the manufacturer could cut production or divert cars to markets with better currency exchanges.

Either way you loose (or win) depending on how you look at it. It's probably a wash over time as to the financial impact of low or high sales figures on the value of owning a car.

If you are a lemming though, you might worry about sales...

05-23-2008, 12:28 PM	#1
bkms1 Private First Class 9 Rep 164 Posts Drives: none Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ny iTrader: (0)	893 e92 m3 forsale on autotrader dosent look there moving. Im sure deals can be had for buyers
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ihyln Banned 85 Rep 3,384 Posts Drives: M3post sucks Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: M3post sucks iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 M3 [0.00] 2002 530i [0.00]	probably all manuals, right?
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bkms1 Private First Class 9 Rep 164 Posts Drives: none Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ny iTrader: (0)	no not really several cabs and dct tranny cars. I think there just not selling
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ArtPE Banned 11 Rep 471 Posts Drives: e46 M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	BMW has sold 10k worldwide so far... and you are talking about 900 cars in a country of 300,000,000 people... look how many 997's pop up...>1500
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bkms1 Private First Class 9 Rep 164 Posts Drives: none Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ny iTrader: (0)	The recession is in the United states. The car has just been introduced. The 997 has been out a few years
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Leg Captain 94 Rep 844 Posts Drives: E92 M3 V8 Alpine White Join Date: May 2007 Location: York, England iTrader: (0)	Maybe the OP could go buy one and then he wouldnt be driving 'nothing'. How much IS a bus pass these days anyway? __________________ E92 M3, Breyton GTS 19s, black and carbon all over Factory Mini John Cooper Works 211bhp MK Indy R track car (road legal) 300bhp+ per ton, sequential box VW Tiguan 4x4
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spike357 Private First Class 9 Rep 157 Posts Drives: The 1st 2008 e92 M3 in NV Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 e92 M3 [0.00]	Desert BMW Las Vegas has 15 335s in stock. I guess they are not selling either. OMG The Lamborghini dealer has two Gallardos. I guess they are not selling either. Give me a break people! Cars usually need to be in stock to be available to sell. That's what dealerships are for.
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icemang17 Captain 41 Rep 644 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 M3 DCT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Stockton CA iTrader: (0)	The general rule in the car biz is they sell as many cars as they build....and dealerships sell as many cars as the builder gives them to sell.....simple math..... However when production does exceed demand the automakers offer incentives to move dealer inventory.... Honestly I hope M3's are not selling that well......that means I can get a better interest rate on mine next month!! :>) __________________ Brian 2008 E92 M3, MR, DCT, extended BB leather, loaded! 1988 Porsche 928S4, Guards red/Champagne leather 1989 Porsche 928S4 track beast!!!
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dosserj FOR SALE 23 Rep 285 Posts Drives: AW/FR E92 M3 Join Date: May 2008 Location: SATX iTrader: (0)	It is definitely moving towards a buyer's market and dealers are realizing it. I was offered $4K off MSRP for a sedan last week. But I am looking for a DCT coupe. I keep expecting to see some DCTs rolling into the dealers' lots but I have yet to see any in South Texas. Anyone have any luck finding DCTs sitting on the lots?
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jm1234 Lieutenant 18 Rep 431 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Jet Black/Tan/SA 6MT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Alpharetta, GA iTrader: (0)	I once owned a nice car that didn't sell well initially. It meant that: 1) After a while parts were scarce and expensive. 2) Qualified and experienced mechanics were hard to find. 3) Resale was good because the odds improved that I was the one selling to the fanatic that just "had to have" the car. This probably only works with "cool" cars. I don't think this helped the Gremlin much. I imagine that if sales are slow there could be better deals but the manufacturer could cut production or divert cars to markets with better currency exchanges. Either way you loose (or win) depending on how you look at it. It's probably a wash over time as to the financial impact of low or high sales figures on the value of owning a car. If you are a lemming though, you might worry about sales...
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