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      05-16-2008, 05:07 PM   #1
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Premium on M3's??? Whats the deal

Okay so i'm at my dealership today getting some maintenance done and I started to shoot the shit with a SA which eventually led to talking about the new M3. Well this guy must think im an idiot or something because I told him I would trade but im not paying sticker and he hit me with "well in california their selling for 30k over" I was like Please confirm to me that this is a bunch of bull shit!

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      05-16-2008, 05:09 PM   #2
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i just typed this, i dont wanna type it again

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...3&postcount=10
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      05-16-2008, 05:09 PM   #3
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its a bunch of bullshit, in california you'll still see dealers mark up on the cars in the lots but usually you can negotiate or order one yourself which will be msrp or below.
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Not that many dealers are selling over sticker. In Cali they did for the first one or so months ago. Look on Ebay.. There are dealers looking to dump inventory. I don't they are selling stock to well. My dealer has had a 4 door for ever. All the M fans special ordered theres I think.

Sticker is pretty standard. My dealer gave me more money on my 5 series to help becasue they said they could not give me anything off the sticker.
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crevier, irvine, newport still have the markup. crevier has like 20k on some man.
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      05-16-2008, 05:17 PM   #6
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haha, I just checked the dealer down the street from my house and they had a new e93 6sp M3. They were asking $94k!!!!
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its BS - they may show a mark up but they are NOT selling for mark up - they are selling for MSRP or less.
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If you are really interested in buying an m3 just start calling all the local dealerships and ask for discounts. I know Rusnak BMW in Thousand Oaks (Southern California) will do 1-2K under MSRP. Just tell prospective dealerships you already have a deal for 1K under and want to see if they'll go any lower.

Market sucks.
Gas prices suck and will probably rise before they plateau.
A few members have posted receiving discounts on both e90 and e92.
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MSRP not too bad but if you can do better great.
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crevier, irvine, newport still have the markup. crevier has like 20k on some man.
I just bought mine in Newport (Sterling) I am not a master negotiator by any means and I paid MSRP. Keep in mind Sterling is on PCH. Originally when they came out in March there was a huge markup. The problem is were in a recession and nobody is buying cars. Car sales are down over 20% across the board. If the M3 came out 2 years ago they could get away with that markup but when these M3's with 20k markup were sitting on the lot being looked at but not bought they suddenly realized that there was not a gigantic demand for these cars like they thought there would be. This is for 6mt M3's. The M-DCT market might be much different.
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yah this is what dealers do they always "try" to get some money, u say no this is BS they'll give u a deal, but as long as there's people who say yes, they will still put that markup on the cars.
when i was shopping for a 350z the car i found was 32k, he gave me numbers for lease in 3 years that totaled 36k im like "i look stupid, dont i??"
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yah this is what dealers do they always "try" to get some money, u say no this is BS they'll give u a deal, but as long as there's people who say yes, they will still put that markup on the cars.
when i was shopping for a 350z the car i found was 32k, he gave me numbers for lease in 3 years that totaled 36k im like "i look stupid, dont i??"
lol, thats pretty nuts. Ya I just went back over there to pick my car up and I told him that theres no way their selling for over sticker and he was like "okay sir, whatever you say" and I just started laughing. He could of sold me one today but I guess he thought I was bull shitting cause im so young. Oh well
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Vern Eide in SD will give you a healthy discount and ship it covered to your door.
Which dealership? What's a healthy discount? At BMW of SD their willing to go $500 below MSRP. I know I can get around $1000 or more under by playing a little hardball. Market sucks, gas prices are way up, other competitors on the market (C63 AMG, Z06, GTR on the way soon). This whole markup thing is bullshit! Let some yuppie wanker pay that and move on to a reasonable dealership.
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Most dealerships are saying MSRP is the lowest they'll go but I have at least 3 offers for 1k below MSRP.
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"okay sir, whatever you say"

damn right! most CAs don't know jack about the m3 anyway.
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Not San Diego, South Dakota.
Oh, sorry.
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      05-17-2008, 12:37 PM   #17
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damn right! most CAs don't know jack about the m3 anyway.

Ya I knew more about it then he did
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there are two dealers i know of in n. cal who are not marking up m3s at all, one of which was notorious for doing so a while back

im pretty sure you could score a deal. What would the dealer rather do? make a sale or lose a customer?

The key to successful negotiation is to know what you want. I have found that if you are firm and reasonable about your requests, things will generally work out being that a dealer doesnt wanna lose a sale. Go at the end of the month and theyll be begging you to take the keys
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I just bought mine in Newport (Sterling) I am not a master negotiator by any means and I paid MSRP. Keep in mind Sterling is on PCH. Originally when they came out in March there was a huge markup. The problem is were in a recession and nobody is buying cars. Car sales are down over 20% across the board. If the M3 came out 2 years ago they could get away with that markup but when these M3's with 20k markup were sitting on the lot being looked at but not bought they suddenly realized that there was not a gigantic demand for these cars like they thought there would be. This is for 6mt M3's. The M-DCT market might be much different.
I saw you driving the other day I believe. You were on the 73 to 405 connector from Newport Beach - I was in the Interlagos Blue M5 =)

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I saw you driving the other day I believe. You were on the 73 to 405 connector from Newport Beach - I was in the Interlagos Blue M5 =)

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Yea I was probably driving slow Im still in my first 1200 .
You most definitely were driving slow
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It's hit or miss. My dealer listed a brand new E93 M3 6MT on Craigs List about a week ago with NO markup. It all depends on your region. Calling around (or surfing Craig's List or eBay) will yield deals.
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