Muffler?? Or Muffler Del?? Street Cruisin!!

elitesales305 · 05-16-2017, 01:26 PM

would buying an exhaust (berk) with or without muffler be ideal for everyday street driving??
im interested in getting the muffler del w mid pipe from berk.. but it states not recommended for street use??
is it that much more loud and annoying??

Matt@EuroJerks · 05-16-2017, 02:41 PM

Yes. Annoying for daily street use.

mike@x-ph.com · 05-16-2017, 05:24 PM

Muffler delete is too loud for daily driving in my opinion

1traitor · 05-16-2017, 05:36 PM

I have the berk race with berk mid pipes and I daily my car but I like it loud and I actually want louder so depends on how loud you like your cars

Dackelone · 05-16-2017, 05:38 PM

I would look at what BMW did with their PE... just delete the rear resonator... and keep the muffler.

elitesales305 · 05-16-2017, 06:37 PM

well my car hum's already with the stock muffler.. I do like it loud though..
dackel.. could I have the perf bmw muffler already??
135i e88 2013?

Esteban · 05-16-2017, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

I would look at what BMW did with their PE... just delete the rear resonator... and keep the muffler.

I agree with Dack. The PE sounds about perfect to my ears.

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Originally Posted by elitesales305

well my car hum's already with the stock muffler.. I do like it loud though..
dackel.. could I have the perf bmw muffler already??
135i e88 2013?

The stock exhaust has black aluminum tips, the PE has chrome tips. That's an easy way to tell.

Dackelone · 05-16-2017, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by elitesales305

well my car hum's already with the stock muffler.. I do like it loud though..
dackel.. could I have the perf bmw muffler already??
135i e88 2013?

Stock(left) vs PE(right) silver tips...
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Here is what my car sounds like with a PE and a SW tune...

Matticus91 · 05-16-2017, 09:01 PM

Dackelone stop posting videos that make me want to spend money lol

Dackelone · 05-17-2017, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Matticus91

Dackelone stop posting videos that make me want to spend money lol

elitesales305 · 05-17-2017, 04:13 PM

ya I got the black tips.. exhaust look almost the same..
do the mid pipes restrict performance at all??
my goal is hp.. I don't want to spend $ for just noise..
soo my question I guess is.. is everything back from the d/p just volume??
or mid pipe res del and or muffler del gonna restrict h/p??
I don't wanna upgrade anything behind my downpipe strictly for more noise..
I know a catted d/p is restricting any hp gains.. so I know I need to upgrade that..

elitesales305 · 05-17-2017, 04:14 PM

you guys are so prompt and informative on here..
I appreciate all your help

BimmerAg · 05-17-2017, 04:59 PM

The n55 midpipes may have a very slight restriction through the resonator, but it wouldn't be worth replacing IMO. With a resonator and muffler delete I'd imagine you'd gain less than 10 hp compared to stock

sandlion · 05-17-2017, 08:34 PM

downpipe is where the ponies live

Eyeman · 05-18-2017, 09:12 AM

My throttle response seemed to improve with intake and exhaust mods. It also felt a little faster. But dynos I've seen show you barely gain anything. But we are spoiled because we can gain so much with a tune. I'd bet you would gain almost as much in weight savings by dumping the factory exhausts that you would gain in Hp. The stock muffler is very heavy and even includes that heavy vibration reducer.

ShocknAwe · 05-18-2017, 01:13 PM

Weight difference between my stock muffler and the MadDad Whisper was pretty incredible. Actually, I think the Whisper was even lighter than the Berk Sport I had as well.

Definitely do not recommend a muffler delete for DD duty.

iminhell1 · 05-19-2017, 02:23 PM

I'm on catless DP's and Berk mids. Stock rear muffler with flap open.
I feel it's the best of both worlds. Very acceptable noise at cruise, around town. When you get on it, it's loud and gets attention.
Have not tried with flap closed yet.

Stewy_604 · 05-23-2017, 06:01 PM

I just installed the Berk Street, running a VRSF 3.5 catless DP and stock mids. It sounds great, especially since this is my wife's daily driver. Good deep tone, no rasp. Very little drone. If it was my car, I'd want it louder and would've gone with the Race (muffler delete) option most likely.

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elitesales305 shmo 383 Rep 1,026 Posts Drives: honda Join Date: May 2017 Location: no where iTrader: (0)	well my car hum's already with the stock muffler.. I do like it loud though.. dackel.. could I have the perf bmw muffler already?? 135i e88 2013? __________________ No sig
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elitesales305 shmo 383 Rep 1,026 Posts Drives: honda Join Date: May 2017 Location: no where iTrader: (0)	ya I got the black tips.. exhaust look almost the same.. do the mid pipes restrict performance at all?? my goal is hp.. I don't want to spend $ for just noise.. soo my question I guess is.. is everything back from the d/p just volume?? or mid pipe res del and or muffler del gonna restrict h/p?? I don't wanna upgrade anything behind my downpipe strictly for more noise.. I know a catted d/p is restricting any hp gains.. so I know I need to upgrade that.. __________________ No sig
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BimmerAg Lieutenant 425 Rep 545 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: May 2017 Location: San Antonio, TX iTrader: (0)	The n55 midpipes may have a very slight restriction through the resonator, but it wouldn't be worth replacing IMO. With a resonator and muffler delete I'd imagine you'd gain less than 10 hp compared to stock __________________ 2011 BMW 135i ///M-Sport, DCT Bilstein B12 kit, Dinan camber plates, M3 front control arms, Whiteline poly RSFB, MHD Stage 1, cp-e Charge Pipe, H&R Front sway bar, BMW performance diffuser
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ShocknAwe 1Addict 3234 Rep 7,894 Posts Drives: E82 Mutt, M57 Truck Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Charleston iTrader: (22)	Weight difference between my stock muffler and the MadDad Whisper was pretty incredible. Actually, I think the Whisper was even lighter than the Berk Sport I had as well. Definitely do not recommend a muffler delete for DD duty. __________________ 2010 135i 6MT Jet Black N54/3 FE82 Mutt \| BUILD THREAD \| GARAGE SALE
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iminhell1 C2H5OH 3915 Rep 2,144 Posts Drives: 2010 SG 135i auto Join Date: May 2015 Location: Darwin, MN iTrader: (1)	I'm on catless DP's and Berk mids. Stock rear muffler with flap open. I feel it's the best of both worlds. Very acceptable noise at cruise, around town. When you get on it, it's loud and gets attention. Have not tried with flap closed yet.
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Stewy_604 First Lieutenant 77 Rep 310 Posts Drives: 2011 E82 135i M-Sport Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Vancouver, B.C. iTrader: (0)	I just installed the Berk Street, running a VRSF 3.5 catless DP and stock mids. It sounds great, especially since this is my wife's daily driver. Good deep tone, no rasp. Very little drone. If it was my car, I'd want it louder and would've gone with the Race (muffler delete) option most likely. __________________ 2011 BMW 135i M Sport Space Grey - BMS JB4, VRSF 3.5" catless DP, Berk exhaust, BMS intake, ER CP, Eibach Pro-Kit, H&R spacers, black kidneys, Blacklines, LUX angel eyes 2014 BMW X5 xDrive 35d M Sport Mineral White - MPBK w/ F85 rotors & Carbotech pads, ACS Springs/Links, iND reflector deletes, iND black roundels, MP black kidneys, M50D grille inserts 2007 Suzuki GSX-R 750 - too much to list
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