A few questions on winter setup for F82

MadBeamer · 10-14-2016, 12:01 PM

Hi guys,

My 2017 M4 is on it's way after ED to PCD. It's got standard breaks (so I get the correct wheels that fit). I am looking to get a set of snow tires/rims for winter as I always had with my E92. Below are some questions I have, thought maybe some of you folks can help me get some feedback/answers.

1. Is it ok to go with a square setup? I am thinking square so that i can rotate them better, and keep the tread life longer.
2. I've had Blizzak LM-22s on my e92 328i, and no issues, but an M4 is a bit different on power, but I don't play to do crazy corning in WI winter here. Should I get studless winter tires like Michelin X-Ice Xi3 or performance winter tires like BLIZZAK LM001?
3. Anyone own the Alutec Drive Rims (18x8)? They are supposed to be "Machined w/Black Accent", not sure if these are similar to the design/look of the BMW 437M Black alloys which the car has on now. I can't seem to find any real life photos.
4. I am not sure if I want the TPMS installed for about $200 because these are not RFT , and I can just monitor pressure. Does that mean I will have the annoying tirepressure light on? I don't mind the light, but are there any other lights/warning beeps that stay on if I don't install them?

Thanks in advance for the help!

MadBeamer · 10-19-2016, 10:57 AM

Bump....anyone?

Xerxes480 · 10-19-2016, 12:57 PM

I have a '15 M3 with the 19s and PSS tires. For my winter set I went with a square setup on 18s, Rial P10 wheels (they were cheap and look decent enough) and Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4 tires. I live in the Seattle area, so snow was less of a concern for me. It's mainly cold temps and wet roads, and the very rare snow, that I have to deal with.

After two seasons I've been really happy with the Alpins. Great wet traction! I went with the square setup so I could rotate the tires. Car rides great on them.

Disclaimer: I have yet to drive in anything more than a dusting of snow.

I did spend the $$ on TPMS, mainly because many tires shops won't do the work unless you have it. I don't know what the car will do if TPMS is not present.

Hope this helps.

-X-

firedown31 · 10-20-2016, 02:49 PM

A square set up is fine. I run 245/45/18 on 18x8 rims all around. As to what tire, that depends what you intend to drive in. If you'll only drive in the cold/wet or 1 to 2 inches of snow a winter performance would be fine. If your M4 is your daily and you might need to drive in 4+ inches of snow you'll want a studless snow and ice tire. I have the x-ice tires and never got stuck once last winter in up to 6 inches of snow/slush.

JMon · 10-21-2016, 03:40 PM

Here is my setup with Michelin PA4
$2600 for everything. Tires, wheels, TPMS, shipping, mounting

Initial Thread:
http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1176260

Follow up Thread with more pictures mounted:
http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1219580

MadBeamer · 10-21-2016, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firedown31

A square set up is fine. I run 245/45/18 on 18x8 rims all around. As to what tire, that depends what you intend to drive in. If you'll only drive in the cold/wet or 1 to 2 inches of snow a winter performance would be fine. If your M4 is your daily and you might need to drive in 4+ inches of snow you'll want a studless snow and ice tire. I have the x-ice tires and never got stuck once last winter in up to 6 inches of snow/slush.

Thanks for the info.

I will use it as my daily, and it's a good 50miles of driving daily. We get slush , snow, rain, and very low temps in WI. So I might need to do X-Ice.

How was the durability of the X-Ice, how much mileage do you think you will get out of them?

JMon · 10-21-2016, 06:56 PM

The x-ice may be a little better in the snow but when it come to driving in the cold & dry the pa4 should be much better.
I've read the x-ice can be a bit squirmy.
There is a thread m3post about the 2 with some drivers that have had both.

JMon · 10-21-2016, 07:01 PM

Also I would highly recommend getting tpms for winter tires.

Mdog97 · 11-22-2016, 03:53 PM

The Michelin PA4 isn't imported in 255/40-18 to North America, unfortunately. They do import a 255/35-18, however. Does anyone know if a 255/35-18 tire will fit on the 9x18 and 10x18 OEM 513M wheels (or any 9x18 and 10x18 wheels)? If so, is anyone actually running this tire?

The other option seems to be to try to order the 255/40s from Europe and hope they make it through customs....

10-14-2016, 12:01 PM	#1
MadBeamer Private First Class 68 Rep 193 Posts Drives: 2017 M4 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Smallville, KS iTrader: (0)	A few questions on winter setup for F82 Hi guys, My 2017 M4 is on it's way after ED to PCD. It's got standard breaks (so I get the correct wheels that fit). I am looking to get a set of snow tires/rims for winter as I always had with my E92. Below are some questions I have, thought maybe some of you folks can help me get some feedback/answers. 1. Is it ok to go with a square setup? I am thinking square so that i can rotate them better, and keep the tread life longer. 2. I've had Blizzak LM-22s on my e92 328i, and no issues, but an M4 is a bit different on power, but I don't play to do crazy corning in WI winter here. Should I get studless winter tires like Michelin X-Ice Xi3 or performance winter tires like BLIZZAK LM001? 3. Anyone own the Alutec Drive Rims (18x8)? They are supposed to be "Machined w/Black Accent", not sure if these are similar to the design/look of the BMW 437M Black alloys which the car has on now. I can't seem to find any real life photos. 4. I am not sure if I want the TPMS installed for about $200 because these are not RFT , and I can just monitor pressure. Does that mean I will have the annoying tirepressure light on? I don't mind the light, but are there any other lights/warning beeps that stay on if I don't install them? Thanks in advance for the help!
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Xerxes480 First Lieutenant 130 Rep 353 Posts Drives: 2018 Porsche Macan GTS Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Redmond, WA iTrader: (0)	I have a '15 M3 with the 19s and PSS tires. For my winter set I went with a square setup on 18s, Rial P10 wheels (they were cheap and look decent enough) and Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4 tires. I live in the Seattle area, so snow was less of a concern for me. It's mainly cold temps and wet roads, and the very rare snow, that I have to deal with. After two seasons I've been really happy with the Alpins. Great wet traction! I went with the square setup so I could rotate the tires. Car rides great on them. Disclaimer: I have yet to drive in anything more than a dusting of snow. I did spend the $$ on TPMS, mainly because many tires shops won't do the work unless you have it. I don't know what the car will do if TPMS is not present. Hope this helps. -X-
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firedown31 Major 913 Rep 1,427 Posts Drives: '16 AW M3 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: NH iTrader: (0)	A square set up is fine. I run 245/45/18 on 18x8 rims all around. As to what tire, that depends what you intend to drive in. If you'll only drive in the cold/wet or 1 to 2 inches of snow a winter performance would be fine. If your M4 is your daily and you might need to drive in 4+ inches of snow you'll want a studless snow and ice tire. I have the x-ice tires and never got stuck once last winter in up to 6 inches of snow/slush.
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JMon FAST 371 Rep 574 Posts Drives: Porsche GT3 Cup Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Charlottesville VA iTrader: (0)	Here is my setup with Michelin PA4 $2600 for everything. Tires, wheels, TPMS, shipping, mounting Initial Thread: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1176260 Follow up Thread with more pictures mounted: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1219580
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JMon FAST 371 Rep 574 Posts Drives: Porsche GT3 Cup Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Charlottesville VA iTrader: (0)	The x-ice may be a little better in the snow but when it come to driving in the cold & dry the pa4 should be much better. I've read the x-ice can be a bit squirmy. There is a thread m3post about the 2 with some drivers that have had both.
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JMon FAST 371 Rep 574 Posts Drives: Porsche GT3 Cup Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Charlottesville VA iTrader: (0)	Also I would highly recommend getting tpms for winter tires.
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Mdog97 Private 46 Rep 56 Posts Drives: 2022 M3 Competition Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: TX iTrader: (3)	The Michelin PA4 isn't imported in 255/40-18 to North America, unfortunately. They do import a 255/35-18, however. Does anyone know if a 255/35-18 tire will fit on the 9x18 and 10x18 OEM 513M wheels (or any 9x18 and 10x18 wheels)? If so, is anyone actually running this tire? The other option seems to be to try to order the 255/40s from Europe and hope they make it through customs....
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