BMW M3 Engine Defect Class Action Lawsuit

[AamirAtl]

Found the below on the Bimmerfest forum, thought I'd share here.

www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=911961

Details copied:

There's a class action lawsuit that you can still get in on.

https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-...t-class-action

"BMW knew or should have known that the BMW S65 motor suffers from a defective rotating assembly that results in excessive bearing wear which can lead to catastrophic engine failure at any time without warning. ALSO: " BMW-NA failed to take any action to correct the defect when it manifested shortly outside of the warranty period." Lastly and maybe most importantly: "numerous complaints made to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, on consumer forums, and most significantly from Technical Service Bulletins that BMW itself issued to dealers describing the defects in question. BTW - You guys can look this up on the NHTSA website too!

[Umi|all|day]

About time.

[Tupug]

what is this now?

[Rat3d ///M]

Originally Posted by Tupug

what is this now?

a waste of time. after lawyers fees and splitting the compensation among everyone you may be entitled to a whopping $4.67.

[nmehta211]

Originally Posted by ||||||||||

a waste of time. after lawyers fees and splitting the compensation among everyone you may be entitled to a whopping $4.67.

Not necessarily. it could reimburse past engine repair/replacement costs, and provide a warranty going forward.

[///M Power-Belgium]

This thread will die soon .
Just like the other 2 threads that I saw on BP in the last 2 years .
I saw even a lawyer involved in the dicussion , and he said I'll take care of it..But we/I saw him never back on here .
Useless....I'm sorry OP .

EDIT : Let's us hope if something would happen ...............

[mrMTB]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

This thread will die soon .
Just like the other 2 threads that I saw on BP in the last 2 years .
I saw even a lawyer involved in the dicussion , and he said I'll take care of it..But we/I saw him never back on here .
Useless....I'm sorry OP .

EDIT : Let's us hope if something would happen ...............

Did you read the item that was linked? It appears that a case was filed in November; BMW NA is attempting to get the case dismissed. Don't see anything yet on the certification.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by mrMTB

Did you read the item that was linked? It appears that a case was filed in November; BMW NA is attempting to get the case dismissed. Don't see anything yet on the certification.

Of course , here it is => https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-...nes-defective/
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The problem is that BMW don't had/have a real fix for the worldwide BF .
If they had something to improve the BF problem , I think they would go for it but the costs would be enormous.
All they could do was replacing S65's under warranty or not ...same thing with the S85's.
I know exactly what was going on because I got inside German info about the disaster for the owners and for BMW as well .
The disaster with the S85 engine dates from 2005 , after the problem was inherited by our S65 and so the problem is already 11 years old , and without a fix for it !
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I would love that BMW had something (fix) for our worldwide BF problem , but sadly they don't have anything ...
So all we can do is hoping for extra warranty in case of BF , even when we are out of warranty ...
Personal I would take this kind of deal , but know it will never come...

[IIAp3x]

I think they should just give all of us who had bearing failures free M4's- just so I could chop it up and roll cage it as a dedicated track car... That would satisfy me...

[Banana Hammock]

Taking bets on how long till this class action lawsuit fizzles into nothing.

[Biggus Dickus]

Originally Posted by ||||||||||

a waste of time. after lawyers fees and splitting the compensation among everyone you may be entitled to a whopping $4.67.

The only people who win in class action (as well as bankruptcy) are Lawyers and Accountants.

[AamirAtl]

What is up with all this negativity and accepting failure before it has happened?

I commend the plaintiff for at least trying. He is doing "something" instead of sitting on his a$$ like me, and many others.

Following the sentiment of the giver-uppers here, I should do nothing, expect nothing and just mope. No thank you. I'd rather try, or rather am appreciative of the plaintiff trying. Even if it is a long shot, at least it is better than doing nothing.

/rant

[IIAp3x]

Originally Posted by AamirAtl

What is up with all this negativity and accepting failure before it has happened?

I commend the plaintiff for at least trying. He is doing "something" instead of sitting on his a$$ like me, and many others.

Following the sentiment of the giver-uppers here, I should do nothing, expect nothing and just mope. No thank you. I'd rather try, or rather am appreciative of the plaintiff trying. Even if it is a long shot, at least it is better than doing nothing.

/rant

I don't think its so much based on negativity, but more on past examples... For many of us who had catastrophic engine failure got excited the first few times we saw a class action lawsuit started- only to become sadly disappointed when they amounted to jack shit in the end...

#1-The reality is that BMW has more money to throw into a court defense than all of the people who suffered bearing failure put together to tie up cases in litigation for years and exhaust any potential plaintiff's expenses necessary to fight the battle.
#2- As stated by our Belgium buddy M-power, there is no real fix for the issue with rod bearings aside to just simply throwing money at victims.
#3- Why throw money at victims when as of today there are still no known causes of death related to the problem of rod bearing failure- so the bad publicity amounts to simply an oversight/Poorly designed engine in production- and what automaker out there has not had a few piss-poor designs produced over the years... They all have...

[kb9uwu]

Originally Posted by AamirAtl

What is up with all this negativity and accepting failure before it has happened?

What, like the entire rod bearing hysteria?

[AamirAtl]

Originally Posted by IIAp3x

I don't think its so much based on negativity, but more on past examples... For many of us who had catastrophic engine failure got excited the first few times we saw a class action lawsuit started- only to become sadly disappointed when they amounted to jack shit in the end...

#1-The reality is that BMW has more money to throw into a court defense than all of the people who suffered bearing failure put together to tie up cases in litigation for years and exhaust any potential plaintiff's expenses necessary to fight the battle.
#2- As stated by our Belgium buddy M-power, there is no real fix for the issue with rod bearings aside to just simply throwing money at victims.
#3- Why throw money at victims when as of today there are still no known causes of death related to the problem of rod bearing failure- so the bad publicity amounts to simply an oversight/Poorly designed engine in production- and what automaker out there has not had a few piss-poor designs produced over the years... They all have...

Well said. Still I ask (and humbly), isn't it better to try something than to do nothing?

[Banana Hammock]

Originally Posted by IIAp3x

I don't think its so much based on negativity, but more on past examples... For many of us who had catastrophic engine failure got excited the first few times we saw a class action lawsuit started- only to become sadly disappointed when they amounted to jack shit in the end...

#1-The reality is that BMW has more money to throw into a court defense than all of the people who suffered bearing failure put together to tie up cases in litigation for years and exhaust any potential plaintiff's expenses necessary to fight the battle.
#2- As stated by our Belgium buddy M-power, there is no real fix for the issue with rod bearings aside to just simply throwing money at victims.
#3- Why throw money at victims when as of today there are still no known causes of death related to the problem of rod bearing failure- so the bad publicity amounts to simply an oversight/Poorly designed engine in production- and what automaker out there has not had a few piss-poor designs produced over the years... They all have...

Originally Posted by AamirAtl

Well said. Still I ask (and humbly), isn't it better to try something than to do nothing?

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate your effort.

Just trying to manage expectation, that's all.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by IIAp3x

I don't think its so much based on negativity, but more on past examples... For many of us who had catastrophic engine failure got excited the first few times we saw a class action lawsuit started- only to become sadly disappointed when they amounted to jack shit in the end...

#1-The reality is that BMW has more money to throw into a court defense than all of the people who suffered bearing failure put together to tie up cases in litigation for years and exhaust any potential plaintiff's expenses necessary to fight the battle.
#2- As stated by our Belgium buddy M-power, there is no real fix for the issue with rod bearings aside to just simply throwing money at victims.
#3- Why throw money at victims when as of today there are still no known causes of death related to the problem of rod bearing failure- so the bad publicity amounts to simply an oversight/Poorly designed engine in production- and what automaker out there has not had a few piss-poor designs produced over the years... They all have...

Earlier today I saw something interesting on the "BMW club" ..
And I thought it was "The German lottery" , but on the BMW club they call it the "S65 - Russian Roulette "

Thread is posted on the "BMW club" from "10/5/2015" => http://bmwclubuae.com/forum/showthre...ssian-Roulette
Oughhhhh.......

[IIAp3x]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Earlier today I saw something interesting on the "BMW club" ..
And I thought it was "The German lottery" , but on the BMW club they call it the "S65 - Russian Roulette "

Thread is posted on the "BMW club" from "10/5/2015" => http://bmwclubuae.com/forum/showthre...ssian-Roulette
Oughhhhh.......

There's a new one!

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by IIAp3x

There's a new one!

Indeed but...I prefer my "German lottery"

[IIAp3x]

Originally Posted by AamirAtl

Well said. Still I ask (and humbly), isn't it better to try something than to do nothing?

My money is on the aftermarket engine parts industry to pursue a resolution/fix... Not the legal industry...

I think its a waste of time and money at this point to fight the battle in court...

The catastrophic bearing failure rate really is a small percentage which does not help the legal means...

One is more likely to win a Takata airbag legal case over the bearing dilemma because the takata airbags are actually killing people...

[IIAp3x]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Indeed but...I prefer my "German lottery"

My T-shirt says "I won big in the German Lottery!"

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by IIAp3x

My T-shirt says "I won big in the German Lottery!"

I need only to drive for about 20 minutes and I'm "IN" Germany !