Comfort Access Entry - thoughts....

[pragueX5]

Had a loaner F15 the other day with keyless comfort entry.....

I discovered such a security flaw..... if I was standing eg 2 feet away from the locked car anyone around was able to go and open the car!!!! just go and gra thr handke and open.
same if I had placed the key on the road few feet away!!!!

I thought this was supposed to work only when the key was in my pocket and I touched the door handke at the same time!?

Imagine you lock the car and walk away to do your shopping.... a thug pops from aroudn th corner the moment you make a first step away from your locked vehicle and he can open it!!!!

[TOPEC]

Originally Posted by pragueX5

I thought this was supposed to work only when the key was in my pocket and I touched the door handke at the same time!?

comfort access does not work by ur key being in ur pocket and u touching the handle to complete a circuit...

and with u being 2 feet away from ur car, im sure if someone else were to open and unlock ur car u would know. if ur that afraid then change the unlock setting to driver door only so no other doors can be unlocked by someone else touching the comfort access ribs.

[pragueX5]

well who knows if its 2feet or ever 6 feet..... or more.......

should not be like this imho......... all it takes to duck down between two cars at a parking lot, wait and just to slightly open the door whilst you walk away from your vehicle after you lock it.... and presto once you are away the thief can play inside freely ....

[alphaod]

I always look around my car at least to check clearance; don't you guys do that?

[IvanLZ]

Thats weird. Usually when im with my girlfriend, she can't open the door unless im standing almost right besides her the door. I should try this when i have the chance.

[MysticBlue]

This is the stupidest concern I've ever heard. If you were using a regular remote, then you most likely are going to push the button at least several feet from the car as you walk up to it, so, same potential issue. I guess if you were going old school and putting the key in the lock, same thing, someone can come up on you right at that moment. Ultimately, if someone is going to take it, they're going to take it. They can take your key or fob right out of your hand or pocket. They can hit you over the head, they can break the window. First, I don't live somewhere where that would likely ever happen. Second, if I did, I would move. If this is really a legitimate concern, don't use it. Take the battery out and just use the key.

[pragueX5]

Originally Posted by MysticBlue

This is the stupidest concern I've ever heard. If you were using a regular remote, then you most likely are going to push the button at least several feet from the car as you walk up to it, so, same potential issue. I guess if you were going old school and putting the key in the lock, same thing, someone can come up on you right at that moment. Ultimately, if someone is going to take it, they're going to take it. They can take your key or fob right out of your hand or pocket. They can hit you over the head, they can break the window. First, I don't live somewhere where that would likely ever happen. Second, if I did, I would move. If this is really a legitimate concern, don't use it. Take the battery out and just use the key.

whats stupid about the fact that when I'm away (yes only a few feet) from my locked car it can be opened by a complete stranger that would come by??? is that stupid? yes, it is........ but from BMW.........

and sureits nothing I would not sleep from but still...........

[iconoclast]

if the would be thief has the ability to utilize ninja like reflexes and timing and open the door before you lock it or open it after you lock it... you can set the audible alert. the vehicle will chirp once the alarm is engaged or disengaged. if any door or access point is open the vehicle will not chirp when enabling the lock/alarm. this really isn't a concern one should spend time on and if it that disconcerting that you worry about it to the point of anxiety then do not keep anything of value in the vehicle.

[SlammedR8]

Originally Posted by TOPEC

comfort access does not work by ur key being in ur pocket and u touching the handle to complete a circuit...

and with u being 2 feet away from ur car, im sure if someone else were to open and unlock ur car u would know. if ur that afraid then change the unlock setting to driver door only so no other doors can be unlocked by someone else touching the comfort access ribs.

That feature only applies if you are opening the driver door. If you walk up to any of the 3 other doors, they will still open all doors regardless of that feature being on or off.

The idea behind that feature is that when you walk up to the car and pull the handle to get into the driver's seat, the other 3 doors remained locked so no one can get it on the side.

[artem123]

Originally Posted by MysticBlue

This is the stupidest concern I've ever heard. If you were using a regular remote, then you most likely are going to push the button at least several feet from the car as you walk up to it, so, same potential issue. I guess if you were going old school and putting the key in the lock, same thing, someone can come up on you right at that moment. Ultimately, if someone is going to take it, they're going to take it. They can take your key or fob right out of your hand or pocket. They can hit you over the head, they can break the window. First, I don't live somewhere where that would likely ever happen. Second, if I did, I would move. If this is really a legitimate concern, don't use it. Take the battery out and just use the key.

^^Agreed 100%

[Almaretto]

There are also boosters that can now be used so that you could be 50 feet away from your car and someone could unlock with CA.

[turboawd]

Originally Posted by pragueX5

whats stupid about the fact that when I'm away (yes only a few feet) from my locked car it can be opened by a complete stranger that would come by??? is that stupid? yes, it is........ but from BMW.........

and sureits nothing I would not sleep from but still...........

then turn on the chirp sound, and you'll hear your doors unlock. you're making a big deal out of nothing.

[pragueX5]

Originally Posted by turboawd

then turn on the chirp sound, and you'll hear your doors unlock. you're making a big deal out of nothing.

you are all missing the point and I do not make a big deal! Just a motor talk here..... so relax ladies

point was that once I lock my car I want it to be locked . period. and not so that anyone around can grab the handle and enter it. in the begginng days of comfort access it was so that only the one with the key fob or key card in the pocket was able to unlock the car with direct touch to the handle...... so I was just surprised its different these days.......

and for the record I dont have this option on my car so I am pretty relax )

peace

[TOPEC]

Originally Posted by pragueX5

in the begginng days of comfort access it was so that only the one with the key fob or key card in the pocket was able to unlock the car with direct touch to the handle...... so I was just surprised its different these days.......

i can tell u this is false as i've done this multiple times on my 2011 E92. i walk close enough, usually within 2 feet of the door, and my gf would pull on the handle to unlock the car, not me touching the car. keys in MY pocket, not hers. same thing with locking, id stand about 2 feet away and have her touch the handle to lock the car. pretty sure its always been like this where as long as the key is close enough to be detected by the proximity sensor, anything that touches the door handles will lock/unlock the car. u do not even need to touch the handles directly to lock the car. again, ive tried this multiple times where the key is in my pocket and while im washin the car with me spraying water directly onto the handles, it is enough to keep on locking the car until i leave the key inside the car.

so pretty sure ur misunderstanding on how the function of comfort access has changed when in fact nothing has changed regarding the way it functions...

[IvanLZ]

Originally Posted by pragueX5

you are all missing the point and I do not make a big deal! Just a motor talk here..... so relax ladies

point was that once I lock my car I want it to be locked . period. and not so that anyone around can grab the handle and enter it. in the begginng days of comfort access it was so that only the one with the key fob or key card in the pocket was able to unlock the car with direct touch to the handle...... so I was just surprised its different these days.......

and for the record I dont have this option on my car so I am pretty relax )

peace

You will hear a sound whenever the car is unlocked. Theres no need to worry about this feature. I love this option especially when my hands are full and my girlfriend can just open the door for me

[Kzang]

OP, I understand your concerns, but to be quite honest if the thief is a professional they will enter your car with ease regardless if the car is locked or not. Even an amateur will just break the window, unlock the car and just do whatever they want with your car.

With that said, most people won't go and randomly grab the handle of your car while you stand near the vehicle to lock it.. With common sense and simple awareness it should not be a real concern.

[Longun 2]

Comfort access is one of the better extra's to have. The concern's raised in this thread are ridiculous! (IMHO)

[Neuera09]

Get a Trunk Monkey! Need I say more.

http://www.suburbanautogroup.com/trunk-monkey-videos/

[realsgy]

Originally Posted by pragueX5

well who knows if its 2feet or ever 6 feet..... or more.......

should not be like this imho......... all it takes to duck down between two cars at a parking lot, wait and just to slightly open the door whilst you walk away from your vehicle after you lock it.... and presto once you are away the thief can play inside freely ....

I think your issue is only theoretical. Thieves will not risk to be seen and IDd. They have no concern for your car so they will rather wait until no one is near and force their way in than to risk such a ninja move.

The only exception is if you have something in your car that is visible and can be grabbed easily, like a camera or hand bag on the seat. They will go for that. Needless to say that they will go for that even if you don't have CA, they will break in your window, grab it and run. Seen this happen, it is over in three seconds.

[Neuera09]

Originally Posted by Neuera09

Get a Trunk Monkey! Need I say more.

http://www.suburbanautogroup.com/trunk-monkey-videos/

Anyone interested in a group order? Ben, could you get us a group price?

[MarineOh3]

Originally Posted by Neuera09

Get a Trunk Monkey! Need I say more.

http://www.suburbanautogroup.com/trunk-monkey-videos/

: too funny...

[turboawd]

omg, i better get rid of all my cars! a thug could come up to me and demand my keys!!
oh what horror!