E92 M3 Competition Package???

M3Dimi · 04-25-2016, 11:53 AM

Ok I know this is probably a really dumb question but I was trying to look it up and considering I couldn't find anything I'm guessing the answer is a no but anyway here we go. So I wanted to know if it's possible to get the competition package installed onto a regular e92 M3?

What I mean by that is get everything done to your regular M3 e92 that the competition package comes with, the lowered suspension and everything else but do it all with oem parts? I'm guessing you can't but if anyone knows or has attempted this could you guys let me know?

BimmerRookie · 04-25-2016, 11:59 AM

why would you want to?

M3Dimi · 04-25-2016, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BimmerRookie

why would you want to?

Because I want to be able to have the car at its best preformance why not?

Amirsm3 · 04-25-2016, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by M3Dimi

Ok I know this is probably a really dumb question but I was trying to look it up and considering I couldn't find anything I'm guessing the answer is a no but anyway here we go. So I wanted to know if it's possible to get the competition package installed onto a regular e92 M3?

What I mean by that is get everything done to your regular M3 e92 that the competition package comes with, the lowered suspension and everything else but do it all with oem parts? I'm guessing you can't but if anyone knows or has attempted this could you guys let me know?

Yes, but other than the wheels, why? the difference in coding is unnoticeable for the MDM (at least from when I've driven non competition M's) and the suspension has the same geometry, just 10mm lower.

Get ZCP wheels then get coilovers and call it a day, lol.

cenix · 04-25-2016, 12:12 PM

Can you? Yes.

Should you? No.

Why? Price to retrofit vs. Performance gained is not worth it at all. The Competition Package in reality doesn't give you any more "performance."

rjd598 · 04-25-2016, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by M3Dimi

Because I want to be able to have the car at its best preformance why not?

lol the car being at its best performance will not be achieved with retrofitting zcp

BimmerRookie · 04-25-2016, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by M3Dimi

Because I want to be able to have the car at its best preformance why not?

I don't think you fully understand what is included in ZCP and its realized effects.

As said above, getting the best performance is not achieved by retrofitting ZCP.

M3Dimi · 04-25-2016, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Amirsm3

Yes, but other than the wheels, why? the difference in coding is unnoticeable for the MDM (at least from when I've driven non competition M's) and the suspension has the same geometry, just 10mm lower.

Get ZCP wheels then get coilovers and call it a day, lol.

Ok thanks for the advise I'll probably do something like this anyway this was what I was planing before I even thought about what I just posted.

M3Dimi · 04-25-2016, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cenix

Can you? Yes.

Should you? No.

Why? Price to retrofit vs. Performance gained is not worth it at all. The Competition Package in reality doesn't give you any more "performance."

Ok thanks good to know!

Flying Ace · 04-25-2016, 12:47 PM

Yes, all the physical parts (springs, wheels) are definitely a yes. The electronic programming for revised EDC and MDM, not so sure...

here's a guy who did it:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=411923

What you're going to pay for is probably 60% of the way towards a decent set of aftermarket suspension which may be better than ZCP, it all depends on your needs.

IMO, you will never ever tell the difference between ZCP and non-zcp suspension in both looks and feel. It's a worthless mod. The wheels on the other hand...yes do that if you love the look.

Flying Ace · 04-25-2016, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rjd598

lol the car being at its best performance will not be achieved with retrofitting zcp

what if you're a pro driver? Like most of us here...

I know there are recommendations whether I should run 1.5 psi less in rears or whether I use Power button and whatnot...

rjd598 · 04-25-2016, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying Ace

what if you're a pro driver? Like most of us here...

I know there are recommendations whether I should run 1.5 psi less in rears or whether I use Power button and whatnot...

never use power button unless needed in conjunction with hookers and cocaine. only run 1.5psi low if you are at a car meet.

dparm · 04-25-2016, 01:02 PM

Yes, you can retrofit it all. It won't be cheap.

If you like the wheels, buy those, and take the rest of the money and put it into other things.

IIAp3x · 04-25-2016, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Amirsm3

Yes, but other than the wheels, why? the difference in coding is unnoticeable for the MDM (at least from when I've driven non competition M's) and the suspension has the same geometry, just 10mm lower.

Get ZCP wheels then get coilovers and call it a day, lol.

do this...

Last NA · 04-25-2016, 01:15 PM

Probably easier to go out and find a ZCP. ZCP wheels and good suspension would make a lot more sense as previously mentioned. Good luck though in your endeavor!

IIAp3x · 04-25-2016, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by M3Dimi

Ok I know this is probably a really dumb question but I was trying to look it up and considering I couldn't find anything I'm guessing the answer is a no but anyway here we go. So I wanted to know if it's possible to get the competition package installed onto a regular e92 M3?

What I mean by that is get everything done to your regular M3 e92 that the competition package comes with, the lowered suspension and everything else but do it all with oem parts? I'm guessing you can't but if anyone knows or has attempted this could you guys let me know?

Might be wrong here, but doesn't the ZCP package car sit a little higher than non-zcp?

cenix · 04-25-2016, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by IIAp3x

Might be wrong here, but doesn't the ZCP package car sit a little higher than non-zcp?

Other way around. ZCP sits 10mm lower.

Last NA · 04-25-2016, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rjd598

never use power button unless needed in conjunction with hookers and cocaine. only run 1.5psi low if you are at a car meet.

LOL, this...

///BMW Junkie · 04-25-2016, 02:29 PM

I thought zcp also comes with a wider track?

Helmsman · 04-25-2016, 02:33 PM

OP, don't listen to the guys dreaming about comp pack...☺

Retrofit will cost you an arm and a leg but it is quite possible.
Here's another one: http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=120370

Good luck and report back!

IIAp3x · 04-25-2016, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cenix

Other way around. ZCP sits 10mm lower.

Maybe it was the e46 m3 comp I was thinking of that sits higher over the non-comp...

loveskiing · 04-25-2016, 03:33 PM

OP, do NOT listen to these guys. While I know that I can be thrown out of the elusive and highly secretive ZCP Club, I've had it with their smug "keep everyone else out" demeanor! They don't want you to know that there's a huge difference in ZCP and non ZCP. When we press the hidden ZCP-M button, we turn the car from pussycat to snarling wild beast. You instantly gain whp, traction, performance, and testicular appendage growth. It's like going from Dr. Bruce Banner to the HULK. Sometimes I'm terrified of hitting that button around other inferior cars because the car does things by itself and well I can't believe that we just ran and smoked Ferraris, Porsches, Lamborghinis, etc. and she hasn't even got warmed up! So unless you're physically, mentally, and psychologically prepared, leave your car the way it is! Finally, if you do retrofit your car, make sure you triple your life insurance!
Good luck either way!

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M3Dimi Lieutenant 178 Rep 446 Posts Drives: 2008 e92 4.6L M3 6MT Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: California iTrader: (0)	E92 M3 Competition Package??? Ok I know this is probably a really dumb question but I was trying to look it up and considering I couldn't find anything I'm guessing the answer is a no but anyway here we go. So I wanted to know if it's possible to get the competition package installed onto a regular e92 M3? What I mean by that is get everything done to your regular M3 e92 that the competition package comes with, the lowered suspension and everything else but do it all with oem parts? I'm guessing you can't but if anyone knows or has attempted this could you guys let me know? __________________ 2008 E92 M3 6MT
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cenix Captain 379 Rep 875 Posts Drives: E90 M3 ZCP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: SoCal iTrader: (5)	Can you? Yes. Should you? No. Why? Price to retrofit vs. Performance gained is not worth it at all. The Competition Package in reality doesn't give you any more "performance."
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Flying Ace Lieutenant General 4985 Rep 11,891 Posts Drives: G05 45e, 997.1 & 991.1 GT3s Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: SF, CA iTrader: (5)	Yes, all the physical parts (springs, wheels) are definitely a yes. The electronic programming for revised EDC and MDM, not so sure... here's a guy who did it: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=411923 What you're going to pay for is probably 60% of the way towards a decent set of aftermarket suspension which may be better than ZCP, it all depends on your needs. IMO, you will never ever tell the difference between ZCP and non-zcp suspension in both looks and feel. It's a worthless mod. The wheels on the other hand...yes do that if you love the look. __________________ 22 Phytonic/Coffee X5 45e (CoVID-free) 08 Speed Yellow 911 GT3 Sharkwerks 12 AW/Cinnamon X5d Sports Pkg (retired) 14 AW/Beige M6GC ZCP, MPE, V2 steering wheel, vorsteiner (retired) 08 SSII/Black E90 M3 (retired)
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Last NA First Lieutenant 64 Rep 341 Posts Drives: '11 Mineral White E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Clarksburg, MD iTrader: (0)	Probably easier to go out and find a ZCP. ZCP wheels and good suspension would make a lot more sense as previously mentioned. Good luck though in your endeavor! __________________ Current: 2011 Mineral White M3 ZCP, 2009.5 Alpine White X5 M Sport, 2014 Diamond White Honda Odyssey Touring Elite (Family Fun), 2004 Honda Accord V6 (My Daily) Gone but not forgotten: 2004 Carbon Black M3, 2007 Alpine White 335i, 2009 BMW 550i, 2003.5 Carbon Black M3, 2002 BMW 330i Last edited by Last NA; 04-25-2016 at 01:38 PM..
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Helmsman Major General 4467 Rep 7,111 Posts Drives: 2011 AW E90 M3 ZCP Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Stockholm, Sweden iTrader: (0)	OP, don't listen to the guys dreaming about comp pack...☺ Retrofit will cost you an arm and a leg but it is quite possible. Here's another one: http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=120370 Good luck and report back!
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loveskiing Lieutenant Colonel 968 Rep 1,612 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 E90 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (0)	OP, do NOT listen to these guys. While I know that I can be thrown out of the elusive and highly secretive ZCP Club, I've had it with their smug "keep everyone else out" demeanor! They don't want you to know that there's a huge difference in ZCP and non ZCP. When we press the hidden ZCP-M button, we turn the car from pussycat to snarling wild beast. You instantly gain whp, traction, performance, and testicular appendage growth. It's like going from Dr. Bruce Banner to the HULK. Sometimes I'm terrified of hitting that button around other inferior cars because the car does things by itself and well I can't believe that we just ran and smoked Ferraris, Porsches, Lamborghinis, etc. and she hasn't even got warmed up! So unless you're physically, mentally, and psychologically prepared, leave your car the way it is! Finally, if you do retrofit your car, make sure you triple your life insurance! Good luck either way!
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