European Auto Source (EAS)
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts

Go Back   BMW M3 and BMW M4 Forum > BMW F80 M3 / F82 M4 Technical Topics > Cosmetic Maintenance (Wash/Wax/Detailing/Exterior Restoration & Repairs)

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      08-23-2015, 08:15 AM   #1
Never Convicted
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
1108
Rep
1,497
Posts

Drives: M4
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Charlotte NC

iTrader: (0)

Rubber Winshield Seals

So, I hand wash my car every weekend. Had it coated with CQ Finest about 6 months ago, and entirely happy with it. My problem area is the rubber seals on the windshield. Every week, they're faded and show water spots along their whole length. So I looked around some detailing products websites and bought this Tire and Trim Gel from CG. Says it's "long lasting." I put it on with an applicator, let it sit for a minute, then MF it off. Seals are dark and perfect. Problem is that by the next day, the fading and spots are back.

Anyone have any recommendations? Much appreciated.
Appreciate 0
      08-23-2015, 08:52 AM   #2
AutoDawg
Enlisted Member
0
Rep
40
Posts

Drives: F83
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Charlotte NC

iTrader: (0)

Same issue here...it drives me nuts. The trim on the door sills has the same issue. I haven't found anything that works long term. Hopefully someone has found a product that resolves the issue.
Appreciate 0
      08-23-2015, 09:38 AM   #3
F80_edd57
New Member
8
Rep
23
Posts

Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Inland Empire

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Never Convicted View Post
So, I hand wash my car every weekend. Had it coated with CQ Finest about 6 months ago, and entirely happy with it. My problem area is the rubber seals on the windshield. Every week, they're faded and show water spots along their whole length. So I looked around some detailing products websites and bought this Tire and Trim Gel from CG. Says it's "long lasting." I put it on with an applicator, let it sit for a minute, then MF it off. Seals are dark and perfect. Problem is that by the next day, the fading and spots are back.

Anyone have any recommendations? Much appreciated.
Yes get tire and rubber/vynal dressing from dura gloss , and if your car quest near yu has a lot of it best to stick up because it's discontinued the old formula from what I know . It's Water Repellent to and you only have to apply it every 3-4 weeks minimum
Appreciate 0
      08-23-2015, 10:02 AM   #4
Detailers Domain
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
Detailers Domain's Avatar
United_States
1997
Rep
6,916
Posts


Drives: 20 M2C / 22 X3MC
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (24)

most of the dressing well wear down after a wash, so plan on repeating it each time I know it sucks. for rubber seals this is a good one.

1Z einszett Gummi Pflege
Appreciate 0
      08-23-2015, 03:28 PM   #5
Never Convicted
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
1108
Rep
1,497
Posts

Drives: M4
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Charlotte NC

iTrader: (0)

Thanks gentlemen. I'll try the products and report back on whether they cure the problem. I appreciate your help.
Appreciate 0
      08-24-2015, 04:40 PM   #6
aboulfad
Brigadier General
aboulfad's Avatar
Canada
1593
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 MG/SO
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL, QC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [10.00]
I use carpro PERL and it helps a bit, it lasts until the next wash. This time I applied PERL 1:1 on those trims, We will see how long it lasts.
Appreciate 0
      08-25-2015, 02:01 PM   #7
Never Convicted
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
1108
Rep
1,497
Posts

Drives: M4
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Charlotte NC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by aboulfad View Post
I use carpro PERL and it helps a bit, it lasts until the next wash. This time I applied PERL 1:1 on those trims, We will see how long it lasts.
Thank you, sir. And please do let me know. If it lasts a couple of weeks, it will save me re-applying stuff on them 12x.
Appreciate 0
      08-25-2015, 05:35 PM   #8
aboulfad
Brigadier General
aboulfad's Avatar
Canada
1593
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 MG/SO
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL, QC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [10.00]
There's also another good old product, Aerospace 303. I used it in the past with success but this time around I choose to try the new hyped PERL product that is all around good on tires, vinyl, plastic, ...
Appreciate 0
      08-25-2015, 07:30 PM   #9
AM4ZING
Colonel
AM4ZING's Avatar
1205
Rep
2,105
Posts

Drives: M4 MW/SO 6MT, E46 M3 AW/IR 6MT
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2004 BMW M3  [0.00]
2015 BMW M4  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Never Convicted View Post
So, I hand wash my car every weekend. Had it coated with CQ Finest about 6 months ago, and entirely happy with it. My problem area is the rubber seals on the windshield. Every week, they're faded and show water spots along their whole length. So I looked around some detailing products websites and bought this Tire and Trim Gel from CG. Says it's "long lasting." I put it on with an applicator, let it sit for a minute, then MF it off. Seals are dark and perfect. Problem is that by the next day, the fading and spots are back.

Anyone have any recommendations? Much appreciated.

Referring to the plastic moldings on the left and right side by the pillar? Those things drive me nuts
__________________
MILA | E46 BMW M3 | AW/IR | 6MT | KW V3 | CSL | Vorsteiner |
EMILY | F82 BMW M4 | MW/SO | 6MT | M Carbon Ceramic Brakes | M Performance Exhaust |
Appreciate 0
      08-25-2015, 08:39 PM   #10
Never Convicted
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
1108
Rep
1,497
Posts

Drives: M4
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Charlotte NC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by aboulfad View Post
There's also another good old product, Aerospace 303. I used it in the past with success but this time around I choose to try the new hyped PERL product that is all around good on tires, vinyl, plastic, ...
I've seen the Aerospace 303 name, bunch of people recommended it, but I forgot what for.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AM4ZING View Post
Referring to the plastic moldings on the left and right side by the pillar? Those things drive me nuts
No. I'm talking about the soft rubber seals framing the front windshield. I've never noticed a problem with the plastic moldings. Although now that you mention them I feel a compulsion to run out to the garage and check them too...damn this OCD to hell!!!
Appreciate 0
      08-25-2015, 08:57 PM   #11
aboulfad
Brigadier General
aboulfad's Avatar
Canada
1593
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 MG/SO
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL, QC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [10.00]
I was also referring to the drip mouldings, part 2 in http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=51_9245 . OP, which part were you referring to ?
aerospace 303 is good for vinyl, plastic, ...
Appreciate 0
      08-25-2015, 09:08 PM   #12
Never Convicted
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
1108
Rep
1,497
Posts

Drives: M4
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Charlotte NC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by aboulfad View Post
I was also referring to the drip mouldings, part 2 in http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=51_9245 . OP, which part were you referring to ?
aerospace 303 is good for vinyl, plastic, ...
Those are the offenders. #2 on the diagram, public enemy #1 on my car.
Appreciate 0
      08-25-2015, 09:40 PM   #13
aboulfad
Brigadier General
aboulfad's Avatar
Canada
1593
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 MG/SO
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL, QC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [10.00]
Here's a pic of my drip moulding with PERL 1:1, four days later. But no rain, and only parked one day outside my garage and drove few hours daily. Are yours similar or worse?
Attached Images
 
Appreciate 0
      08-26-2015, 06:34 AM   #14
Never Convicted
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
1108
Rep
1,497
Posts

Drives: M4
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Charlotte NC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by aboulfad View Post
Here's a pic of my drip moulding with PERL 1:1, four days later. But no rain, and only parked one day outside my garage and drove few hours daily. Are yours similar or worse?
...and here's mine 4 days after wash. Worse? Oh yeah.
Attached Images
 
Appreciate 0
      08-26-2015, 06:42 AM   #15
aboulfad
Brigadier General
aboulfad's Avatar
Canada
1593
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 MG/SO
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL, QC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Never Convicted
Quote:
Originally Posted by aboulfad View Post
Here's a pic of my drip moulding with PERL 1:1, four days later. But no rain, and only parked one day outside my garage and drove few hours daily. Are yours similar or worse?
...and here's mine 4 days after wash. Worse? Oh yeah.
Darn! That would drive me nuts. Do you park next to trees or something that may drop on the car or maybe it rains a lot? I guess you'd notice it too on the remainder of the car... That doesn't look normal. Try cleaning it well with an Apc and apply one of the products mentioned here on your thread. Do a small part way at the bottom and check.

I know my dealer replaced interior trim that wasn't uniform in color, I.e. Discoloured. But to replace this trim, I think (not sure) they may have to remove the windshield and I wouldn't want that.
Appreciate 1
      08-26-2015, 07:02 AM   #16
Never Convicted
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
1108
Rep
1,497
Posts

Drives: M4
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Charlotte NC

iTrader: (0)

Car is garaged every night, but does sit in the sun at work. So, I ordered the Einszett 1z the other day, and I ordered the PERL as soon as I saw the pic of your seal. Maybe the UV protection the PERL has is the answer. Thanks again for your help, and I'll let you know how it works for me.
Appreciate 0
      08-26-2015, 11:13 AM   #17
aboulfad
Brigadier General
aboulfad's Avatar
Canada
1593
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 MG/SO
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL, QC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [10.00]
Ok btw given the PERL is so versatile it's always nice to have. Here's a pic of my tires after being cleaned w Tuff shine and coated w PERL after 5 days of wash but again no rain. Not insanely shiny like the bad silicon products but nice and black. PERL can also be safely layered given its water based.
Appreciate 0
      08-26-2015, 11:49 AM   #18
AM4ZING
Colonel
AM4ZING's Avatar
1205
Rep
2,105
Posts

Drives: M4 MW/SO 6MT, E46 M3 AW/IR 6MT
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2004 BMW M3  [0.00]
2015 BMW M4  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Never Convicted View Post
Those are the offenders. #2 on the diagram, public enemy #1 on my car.
Quote:
Originally Posted by aboulfad View Post
I was also referring to the drip mouldings, part 2 in http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=51_9245 . OP, which part were you referring to ?
aerospace 303 is good for vinyl, plastic, ...
YES! #2 that mothe*@#$%
__________________
MILA | E46 BMW M3 | AW/IR | 6MT | KW V3 | CSL | Vorsteiner |
EMILY | F82 BMW M4 | MW/SO | 6MT | M Carbon Ceramic Brakes | M Performance Exhaust |
Appreciate 0
      08-26-2015, 01:14 PM   #19
dmnc02
Major
dmnc02's Avatar
United_States
920
Rep
1,481
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: PA

iTrader: (0)

If I may throw in another suggestion, that would be Opti-Bond Tire Gel for both tires and the rubber moulding. I used to use PERL before and Opti-Bond is better IMO both in terms of durability and appearance. I have Gummi Pfege, but only use it on the door seals.

As already mentioned by aboulfad, Tuff Shine is hard to beat for cleaning tires.
__________________
2015 Mineral Grey ///M4 6MT
Appreciate 0
      08-26-2015, 01:28 PM   #20
aboulfad
Brigadier General
aboulfad's Avatar
Canada
1593
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 MG/SO
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL, QC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [10.00]
Ok one more product to try now... It never ends and here the tire pic.

Last edited by aboulfad; 10-10-2015 at 07:35 AM..
Appreciate 0
      08-26-2015, 02:49 PM   #21
Never Convicted
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
1108
Rep
1,497
Posts

Drives: M4
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Charlotte NC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmnc02 View Post
If I may throw in another suggestion, that would be Opti-Bond Tire Gel for both tires and the rubber moulding. I used to use PERL before and Opti-Bond is better IMO both in terms of durability and appearance. I have Gummi Pfege, but only use it on the door seals.

As already mentioned by aboulfad, Tuff Shine is hard to beat for cleaning tires.
...aaaand, a bottle of Opti-Coat now on order. I wonder if I can get government funding for this project. It's comforting to know that I'm not alone though.

dmnc, do you apply it full strength, or dilute it? On the info page it said you could do both.

If none of these products work, I'll just convert my car to a dualie, so I can get rid of all of it.
Appreciate 0
      08-26-2015, 02:53 PM   #22
Never Convicted
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
1108
Rep
1,497
Posts

Drives: M4
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Charlotte NC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by AM4ZING View Post
YES! #2 that mothe*@#$%
My sentiments exactly.

Quote:
Originally Posted by aboulfad View Post
Ok one more product to try now... It never ends and here the tire pic.
On another note, nice garage floor. Did you have that professionally done, or do it yourself from a kit? And your tires and wheels look...familiar.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:43 AM.




f80post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST