PPK - Does it change after install, or is it static right from the start?

[Neovison]

Hi... Had PPK installed and heard that it does NOT adapt with additional mileage, and an hour later was told the exact opposite. I was wondering if there was a solid answer somewhere regarding this. Thanks in advance for the help!

[MikesBMW]

I'm interested in the answer too

[Yeineken]

It took a day or two of good driving for the PPK be in full effect for me. I noticed the initial little power boost and nicer throttle as soon as I left the dealership. Took day for the bubbles to be loud and proud. Wish I had just stomached up and going PPK2 at the time.

[thehalcyon]

Originally Posted by Neovison

Hi... Had PPK installed and heard that it does NOT adapt with additional mileage, and an hour later was told the exact opposite. I was wondering if there was a solid answer somewhere regarding this. Thanks in advance for the help!

I can't speak for everyone else but, for me I noticed the effect of the PPK soon as I drove it, but it was subtle. After over an hour of driving and parking the car took it out a few hours later and the difference was not so subtle it was a very noticable difference between the drive I had done just a few hours earlier.

So yes, I would say it does take a bit of time for it to adapt, for me it wasn't too long.

[Dackelone]

All flash tunes will take about 400 miles of driving before fully adjusting or adapting to engine. Also using premium fuel will effect how the "tune" runs. But yes, you should notice an increase in performance right away. Its just after a few hundred miles the engine will feel even better.

[Neovison]

Thanks so much all... From a subjective standpoint, after 250 miles seems to feel smoother, more powerful..

[Overpar56]

Originally Posted by Neovison

Thanks so much all... From a subjective standpoint, after 250 miles seems to feel smoother, more powerful..

As Dackelone said, it takes a couple hundred miles to learn. When BMW reflashed my DME with the latest DCT fix, it took a few miles to relearn. Pops and burbles got back to normal a couple hundred miles in.

[aweso///Me]

Originally Posted by Yeineken

It took a day or two of good driving for the PPK be in full effect for me. I noticed the initial little power boost and nicer throttle as soon as I left the dealership. Took day for the bubbles to be loud and proud. Wish I had just stomached up and going PPK2 at the time.

So overall are you happy with your PPK? Did the pops and crackles come immediately after the install? Do you hear a well noticeable difference?

Really curious on that topic at the moment.. sorry! :P

[Yeineken]

Originally Posted by aweso///Me

So overall are you happy with your PPK? Did the pops and crackles come immediately after the install? Do you hear a well noticeable difference?

Really curious on that topic at the moment.. sorry! :P

Not initially. Even the dealer told me it will take some mileage for the engine adjust it self to the new software. I still have stock down pipes and axel back and the pops and burbles are nice. Once I upgrade those two exhaust parts it'll be very noticeable.

[Gangplank]

When I had mine installed they reset my transmission adaptations so the difference was noticeable immediately in that regard.

I definitely felt more power and better exhaust note right away. The power comes in earlier too. It got smoother after 250-400 miles.

[Esteban]

My exhaust tone didn't change when I had PPK installed... just got the added pops and crackles. Plus the increased hp and tq.

[djm13]

I (or my butt dyno) noticed the increased hp/trq really right off the bat. Maybe that was just me being hopeful after dropping the cash. In any event, the N55 certainly wakes up with the PPK installed.

I really notice the increased power in WOT pulls, but also seems to have even more torques (if you can believe it) down low. I feel as the PPK1 took pretty much any semblance of turbo lag out of this N55 (not that it was really perceptible to begin with)

What i really noticed changing though is the audible effects. Pops, crackles, gurgles, all kinds of nice stuff. Seems these get more pronounced each day almost. You really start to notice a generally more 'throaty' exhaust note and obviously the overrun on cold start is MUCH more pronounced w/PPK1

I've had the tune in just coming on a year now.... its a nice little tune.

[metblkbmw]

Is this something I can still buy from the dealer? and what should I expect to pay in Canada? Is this a software upgrade plus the exhaust? Thanks for any information

[Esteban]

BMW doesn't say anything about PPK changing the exhaust tone, but here's what they do say: "The Version 1 Power Kit also adds a very sporty exhaust burbling noise during engine overrun conditions." I've had mine since 2011 and I agree. No exhaust tone change for me.

http://www.shopbmwusa.com/PRODUCT/35...ANCE-POWER-KIT

[champignon]

Originally Posted by metblkbmw

Is this something I can still buy from the dealer? and what should I expect to pay in Canada? Is this a software upgrade plus the exhaust? Thanks for any information

Since you are in Canada, this will cost your right nut, plus 2/3 of your left nut in taxes.

Hope this helps

[Gangplank]

Originally Posted by champignon

Since you are in Canada, this will cost your right nut, plus 2/3 of your left nut in taxes.

Hope this helps

Or you could find a coder who can do it. Just say'n.

[rob24ert]

Originally Posted by metblkbmw

Is this something I can still buy from the dealer? and what should I expect to pay in Canada? Is this a software upgrade plus the exhaust? Thanks for any information

I have looked into this. I have found a local coder who can do it for 250-350 or so.

Since my car is cpo, I am a little skeptical about going this route for warranty purposes. Dealer will charge around $950 all said and done. 950 is too much IMO

[Esteban]

Was wondering about coder flashed PPK, which i've also read about recently. Normal PPK is wedded to your VIN, so what happens if your dealer has to update your software for some reason, like for some repair that requires an update, etc. Do you lose your coder flashed PPK? Also, is it the full PPK, or just some version of it?

[Gangplank]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Was wondering about coder flashed PPK, which i've also read about recently. Normal PPK is wedded to your VIN, so what happens if your dealer has to update your software for some reason, like for some repair that requires an update, etc. Do you lose your coder flashed PPK? Also, is it the full PPK, or just some version of it?

In the rare occurrence they had to update your software it would depend on what they updated I would think. You could have it reinstalled and still be ahead. Whether it's the same or not, dunno? Depends on if you believe the guys over on N54 tech. Sure seems like it...

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Gangplank

In the rare occurrence they had to update your software it would depend on what they updated I would think. You could have it reinstalled and still be ahead. Whether it's the same or not, dunno? Depends on if you believe the guys over on N54 tech. Sure seems like it...

It's not really THAT expensive anymore. $585 through ShopBMWUSA.com plus labor for the official version.

[Esteban]

$511.24 ---> https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...c/11122219489/

[Eazy-e]

Originally Posted by Esteban

$511.24 ---> https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...c/11122219489/

that's a pretty good price. What is the hp gain on this?