Hairline Fracture in Roof? Advice Appreciated.

weaksauce · 12-01-2014, 04:59 PM

About a month and a half ago, I bought a CPO 2011 e93. While driving in the rain the other day, I noticed the roof was leaking a bit on the passenger side. I took it into the dealer near my house (not the same dealer as I purchased the car). They stated that there is a hairline fracture in the roof and they epoxied the roof to fix!

Anyone go through such a thing? Any issues after epoxy? Will epoxy hold like the original roof? What could cause this?

I'm actually really pissed off right now since this is a CPO car, only has 23K miles, and is also still under original warranty. Along with the roof, I have had to have the front rotors replaced already due to warping. I would think a CPO car would be less hassle then this and it would be better inspected.

Do I have any recourse with BMW NA such as them buying the car back?

Any advise/feedback would be appreciated.

K-M3 · 12-01-2014, 09:22 PM

I ain't the expert ..... But a cracked roof on a CPO car is not acceptable n an epoxy fix would make me feel shafted big time .... My take on an issue like this in a CPO car under warranty is a new roof ..... Or a buy back ...... This should not be on you ..... This is on BMW/ dealer ..... Epoxy fix on a CPO car ..... What a load of crap .....

m3ray · 12-01-2014, 09:42 PM

So did they just slop the epoxy on top of the roof? Some pictures would help, but it sounds like amateur hour.

Epoxy will cure to form a strong bond, but there is always a chance it won't hold over time. Obviously not the right way to fix it.

All convertibles leak, why should this one be any different? I think as time goes on you will start to see more and more convertible issues.

1MOREMOD · 12-01-2014, 10:00 PM

Where on the roof is this crack? Along a seam or a hatchet mark in the center of the roof?

weaksauce · 12-02-2014, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

Where on the roof is this crack? Along a seam or a hatchet mark in the center of the roof?

I don't know. The crack was not visible to me. I didn't notice anything wrong with the roof until it rained.

weaksauce · 12-02-2014, 08:41 AM

Hmm...so should I press for them to replace the panel? Would you trust a mechanic at a local shop to do this as opposed to installed from factory?

Quicksilv3r · 12-02-2014, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by weaksauce

Hmm...so should I press for them to replace the panel?

Yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by weaksauce

Would you trust a mechanic at a local shop to do this as opposed to installed from factory?

Yes.

weaksauce · 12-02-2014, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilv3r

Yes.

Yes.

I asked them if they could replace the panel and they are stating that this is the fix that BMW recommends. They state the fracture is in the body filler and is not structural. Sounds like a load of BS. Why would a car come from the factory with body filler? Unless, I am not understanding what that really is?

m3ray · 12-02-2014, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by weaksauce

I asked them if they could replace the panel and they are stating that this is the fix that BMW recommends. They state the fracture is in the body filler and is not structural. Sounds like a load of BS. Why would a car come from the factory with body filler? Unless, I am not understanding what that really is?

Body filler? The only time a car has body filler is if its been crashed. Was it in a crash? If no then they are full of it. If yes, then the filler cracked because the body shop used too much filler, aka Bondo job.

MilehighM3 · 12-02-2014, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by weaksauce

They state the fracture is in the body filler and is not structural. Sounds like a load of BS. Why would a car come from the factory with body filler? Unless, I am not understanding what that really is?

Perhaps they meant seam sealer instead of body filler?

eroc0808 · 12-10-2014, 10:20 PM

They probably mean seam sealer if it was something that was not visible and is still 'not' visible. If that is the case an epoxy fix is fine...provided it was done properly. Is slightly bizarre that it would happen on an m3 though. That's a common American car problem.

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weaksauce Second Lieutenant 25 Rep 240 Posts Drives: 2011 e93 M3 6MT AW Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0)	Hairline Fracture in Roof? Advice Appreciated. About a month and a half ago, I bought a CPO 2011 e93. While driving in the rain the other day, I noticed the roof was leaking a bit on the passenger side. I took it into the dealer near my house (not the same dealer as I purchased the car). They stated that there is a hairline fracture in the roof and they epoxied the roof to fix! Anyone go through such a thing? Any issues after epoxy? Will epoxy hold like the original roof? What could cause this? I'm actually really pissed off right now since this is a CPO car, only has 23K miles, and is also still under original warranty. Along with the roof, I have had to have the front rotors replaced already due to warping. I would think a CPO car would be less hassle then this and it would be better inspected. Do I have any recourse with BMW NA such as them buying the car back? Any advise/feedback would be appreciated.
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K-M3 Lieutenant 91 Rep 439 Posts Drives: '12 M3 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: DFW, TX iTrader: (0)	I ain't the expert ..... But a cracked roof on a CPO car is not acceptable n an epoxy fix would make me feel shafted big time .... My take on an issue like this in a CPO car under warranty is a new roof ..... Or a buy back ...... This should not be on you ..... This is on BMW/ dealer ..... Epoxy fix on a CPO car ..... What a load of crap .....
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m3ray Banned 101 Rep 701 Posts Drives: '09 e92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: New York City iTrader: (0)	So did they just slop the epoxy on top of the roof? Some pictures would help, but it sounds like amateur hour. Epoxy will cure to form a strong bond, but there is always a chance it won't hold over time. Obviously not the right way to fix it. All convertibles leak, why should this one be any different? I think as time goes on you will start to see more and more convertible issues.
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1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	Where on the roof is this crack? Along a seam or a hatchet mark in the center of the roof?
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weaksauce Second Lieutenant 25 Rep 240 Posts Drives: 2011 e93 M3 6MT AW Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0)	Hmm...so should I press for them to replace the panel? Would you trust a mechanic at a local shop to do this as opposed to installed from factory?
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eroc0808 Private 10 Rep 50 Posts Drives: 2008 E90 M3 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (1)	They probably mean seam sealer if it was something that was not visible and is still 'not' visible. If that is the case an epoxy fix is fine...provided it was done properly. Is slightly bizarre that it would happen on an m3 though. That's a common American car problem.
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