Z4MC footwell - smaller than the non-Ms?

[epbrown]

I got into the Z4C this morning wearing my Timberland boots and immediately stepped on the gas and clutch together. Sure, I wear a size 15 shoe, but it was never an issue with my roadster. Is the transmission tunnel bigger on the Ms? Are the pedals more closely spaced?

[Dammmittt]

I don't see how the footwells could be any different...

[pbdm4k]

The transmission tunnel is bigger on the M models.
They use a different/larger tranny than the non M's. Beefier to handle the added horsepower although ESS proved the non M tranny will hold up just fine to the power levels.

[RussRamz]

Actually I think the pedals on my M Coupe are set up for perfect heel-toe shifting. Some might think it's too close, but for me I have never driven a car with a more perfect set-up even in its stock form.

If you pressed the accelerator and clutch at the same time, I am making the assumption you mashed the brake pedal too and you must have a HUGE foot!

[MTHEORY]

I haven't measured, but it is definitely tight in that footwell. I don't think the size (length) of the shoe is the issue (I wear a 12 or 13), it's the width which causes a problem. I have never tried to wear boots in my MC, but when I wear dress shoes (Kenneth Cole) which tend to have a wide sole, I sometimes clip an unintended pedal here and there. I have gotten to the point where I actually have certain shoes which I wear when I drive the MC. This is not a problem since it's my second or "fun" car which I mainly use for weekends or errands.

[epbrown]

Originally Posted by RussRamz

If you pressed the accelerator and clutch at the same time, I am making the assumption you mashed the brake pedal too and you must have a HUGE foot!

They're long but not super wide. I drove the car home wearing Timberland driving shoes with no trouble, hence my surprise that my slightly larger waterproof half-height boots were scraping the gas and clutch. I just checked against my Z4 roadster and the same shoes are fine in that.

No big deal - I had a similar issue with my Porsches, but the other direction. The coupes had plenty of footroom, but the targa was tight due to the extra chassis reinforcement.

[inTgr8r]

Originally Posted by pbdm4k

The transmission tunnel is bigger on the M models.
They use a different/larger tranny than the non M's. Beefier to handle the added horsepower although ESS proved the non M tranny will hold up just fine to the power levels.

Are you sure about that?
I thought it was the same 6sp as the si, because of the narrow tunnel.

[pbdm4k]

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

Are you sure about that?
I thought it was the same 6sp as the si, because of the narrow tunnel.

I could be wrong, but I was always under the impression that the M's had different trannies from the non M's.

[inTgr8r]

FWIW....Just checked RealOEM...
Both are listed as "GS6-37BZ/DZ"
they do have different part #s, which I suspect is the different gearing

[RussRamz]

Most true sport cars have pedals set up close together especially between the brake and accelerator pedal for ease in heel-toeing. I make a habit of placing my left foot on the dead pedal when it's not in use which helps in bracing my body during spirited driving. I drive every day like I'm on the track except for not driving at track speeds. It makes my technique become second nature when I actually hit the track. I may not look as cool as those who drive the one-handed gangsta lean method, but if I wanted to drive that sort of car, I would be on the Cadillac forum.