08-17-2019, 10:20 AM | #1 |
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My G05 Experiences are Not So Good!
A salesman at the dealership said it best. “The technology is great! But we also want to just get somewhere, to where we want to go!”
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Drive the competition from $150k down and tell me why you feel they offer more quality. Your not going to see it with the new Cayenne Turbo as they use even more plastic and odd design choices. I am in the North East where my temps are always changing and so are the road conditions. With only 200 miles on the odometer my X5 has been driven from 0 degrees 1100 miles to 90 degrees in the same day without feeling anything but solid as a rock the entire way. I am no stranger to owning many high end autos and feel the current G05 is pushing the tech boundaries while maintaining the best quality driving experience BMW can do in a luxury SUV. Last edited by MystroX5; 08-17-2019 at 10:47 AM.. |
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You had three X5's in a row, you must like them or one would have been enough, especially after they had to replace your tranny. So, I'm not sure why you posted, you're not seeking help, you're not dealer bashing as it seems you have the ultimate dealer but you are X5 bashing yet you keep buying them. |
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08-17-2019, 11:20 AM | #4 | |
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As far as the noises, all cars have creaks and pops. I'm not saying you didn't hear things you didn't expect. I suspect the biggest issue here is BMW, like others, are getting better with sound deadening and cabin isolation. So, what was always there, is now amplified. I'm gonna suggest your next order not have the acoustic glass. In your case allowing some road sound might be to your benefit. Good luck with the next car. If all else fails, turn up the stereo louder.
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08-17-2019, 11:27 AM | #5 |
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I personally think BMW is making too many different models and that has caused a loss of focus on their core models, X5 being one of them. Also, I think BMW has made very technologically sophisticated vehicles with lots of terrific marketable technology but has failed in executing those features. They need to execute them as promised and make sure they work. Based on my ownership experience of two G05s, a number of key features work about 80-90% of the time and no one at BMW really understands what's going on.
Cars are complicated now with many different software modules for different systems, but BMW needs to get a handle on making sure the customer experience is flawless and not frustrating. I have not heard the popping or creaking sounds, but my car stays in a temp controlled garage 90% of the time. The frustrations suck, but I really love the G05. It drives sooo nice. |
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08-17-2019, 11:55 AM | #6 | |
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Just my opinion, but I appreciate you sharing your opinion. |
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08-17-2019, 12:07 PM | #7 | ||
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I feel like the G05 is hit or miss. I've heard of issues people are having with iDrive, the radiators leaking, windows not working, etc. Other people (as myself) have had zero issues with their G05's. I have 10k miles on mine and not a single issue. Hopefully they work out all the bugs in the next couple years. Its a great car otherwise, the interior is MILES ahead of the F15. |
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08-17-2019, 12:09 PM | #8 |
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Can you provide the data to call this a FACT? Your experiences are 1 of thousands if not hundred of thousands over the years you describe. I read this and its like the news today, all stating FACT but nothing to actually identify the stated fact.....
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08-17-2019, 12:19 PM | #9 |
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So its a good opinion and a good read about your experience.
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08-17-2019, 12:36 PM | #10 |
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Aside from pickup trucks and a few RV's, I can't think of any car today that has metal front or rear ends, all plastic. I was in a VW dealer the other day and leaned up against their new Atlas. The body panel moved inward...ha! Plastic. The exhaust trims are all fake on it and other higher end cars/SUV's. You can grab any cars front facade and easily bend it. Plastic is made to look like metal, metal is disappearing in favor of weight and safety (remember metal dashes?), spare tires are disappearing, etc. So you end up going for a certain vehicle for what you want out of it knowing none will satisfy your every desire.
If you are too picky, you'll drive yourself nuts and don't think that just because a car cost $90K, its going to meet all your standards. That's not today's world. I have much trouble accepting this but as I expand my search range in vehicles, I keep coming back to BMW. I know that I don't have to buy them, its my choice. Now, give me the name of your dealer, I'm moving to California. |
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08-17-2019, 12:51 PM | #11 |
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I was a little confused about replacing the automatic transmission bit, and then having nothing wrong with the transmission. Did the dealer unnecessarily replace it? My 2015 X5d was flawless, and comparable quality to comparably priced SUVs I've owned, including Audi and Lexus. Don't have a G05 in the garage yet, but I generally anticipate a similar experience based on everything I've researched personally including numerous test drives, formal reviews and feedback here. But stuff happens - witness posts from long-time owners and enthusiasts whose experience didn't go so well - I could be one of those in a few weeks, or not. And problems range from everything from dealerships to tech. Modern autos are incredibly complex beasts, so much so that actually driving the car is the least complex issue now. I have been amused at posts (not necessarily here) along the line of "I chipped my car with the Automag+ 3000 chip to increase the bhp to 800, replaced the wheels with tractor wheels, wired my personal coffeemaker into the rearview mirror and put Buggatti SPACCER lifts on each tire, and now it drives funny." Or "My lights don't work! What a piece of crap! Where do I find the light switch?" C'est la vie.
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08-17-2019, 01:03 PM | #12 |
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I don't know what is going t be worse, the noises you now have or what you may end up with after the service people climb through your car removing and replacing things. It could simply be an exercise in frustration. You've not had your car long enough yet to experience some of the issues owners are reporting on this forum so when you get done with what you're doing to it now, are you going to be ready for what comes next?
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08-17-2019, 01:10 PM | #13 |
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Unfortunately, clicking and popping sounds do happen. The only question is what tolerance the driver is willing to exhibit while these sounds occur.
Since G05 is in the first model year, BMW is surely building a list of production changes to be implemented in the next model year. Hopefully, this list includes better fitting interior parts with more isolation. Earlier F30 production models were known for creaking / buzzing interior. Later F30 production models were noticeable better in interior noise department, although never noise free. |
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08-18-2019, 12:22 PM | #15 |
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Unfortunately my X5 has disappointed me as well with regard to interior squeaks and rattles.
Fortunately I was able to eliminate the worst ones by wrapping the rear seatback latches with electrical tape. See this thread: https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24137979 My old Audi S4 had no squeaks or rattles in 6 years of ownership, so I know it is possible. I traded the S4 for a GMC Yukon whose rattles were so bad I traded it for the X5 after only 7 months. You can imagine my disappointment that the X5 has rattles too, among other vibration issues that have not been resolved. Good luck with eliminating your pops and rattles. Ps, if you're a 787 pilot, that's awesome! |
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No squeaks nor rattles here after four months, and I hope I didn’t just jinx myself.
Drove to Sonoma/Napa area recently to pick up wine and in the process put on a couple of hundred serene, quiet and comfortable miles in the X5. 100 degree heatwave and all. |
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It only took a couple hundred miles to get to Sonoma/Napa and back??? That's just not right! Then again, if I lived that close, I'd only be able to afford Yugo.
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not sure how warm your car got, but 2 weeks ago, we applied epoxy flooring to our garage and i had to park our G05 outside for 4 days. Temperature in Arizona were up to 114 outside and well over 180 inside the car. Nothing "pop" as you describe. no squeak or rattle. everything is solid as a rock. Everything is fine other than some cosmoline coming out from the door. As for software issues everyone is experience, I'm probably one of the lucky ones that haven't experience anything negative. we are still on last year software version **edit. I take it back our corning lights dont work because i haven't upgraded yet, nothing to complain about Our experience has been so great, *knock on wood, we are considering the X7 when our 2nd child arrives! |
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Appreciated the post and comments. Almost 5k miles in and my X5 40i has been flawless. A little gutless in Comfort mode but I'm coming from a M4 6MT. I just pop it in Sport Plus if the extra responsiveness is needed and all is good. Hope my good fortune continues.
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It almost seems like these issues come in production clusters. For example, I noticed at one of my local dealers that all X5s (20+) had a large scuff on the driver side A-pillar fabric, but at a dealer on the other side of town, the cars were all fine. It is strange that multiple cars from your dealer are exhibiting the same problem. Is it the rear hatch, by chance? X5s have always had issues with noises from the double tailgate.
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