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      04-13-2014, 11:19 PM   #1
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How to launch with auto/tiptronic tranny?

I heard multiple ways to do this. How do YOU guys launch with your auto/tiptronic transmission? One of the key things I've read was to hold down the break while in DS mode, (Traction control off) left foot on break, right on gas until 2,300 RPM then let go of the break. My concern with this method is, if it will do any harm to our euro beauties.

How do you guys do it?
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I heard multiple ways to do this. How do YOU guys launch with your auto/tiptronic transmission? One of the key things I've read was to hold down the break while in DS mode, (Traction control off) left foot on break, right on gas until 2,300 RPM then let go of the gas. My concern with this method is, if it will do any harm to our euro beauties.

How do you guys do it?
"Launching" an auto is exactly what you and said and yes it's terrible for your torque converter. Wouldn't recommend doing this regularly but to answer your question, yes that is the only way.
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left foot on break, right on gas until 2,300 RPM then let go of the gas.

How do you guys do it?
why would you let go of the gas if you want to launch?
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Given the number of problems that people with automatics seem to report on here without "launching" their cars, I'd probably advise against it.

Makes me glad i have a manual.
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why would you let go of the gas if you want to launch?
Typo. Corrected it.
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"Launching" an auto is exactly what you and said and yes it's terrible for your torque converter. Wouldn't recommend doing this regularly but to answer your question, yes that is the only way.
Now I wonder if it's better doing this in M1 mode or DS mode. Which would give more pull?
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Given the number of problems that people with automatics seem to report on here without "launching" their cars, I'd probably advise against it.

Makes me glad i have a manual.
Next BMW will be manual for sure. I miss my clutch
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We don't.

These cars are not drag queens, and it's a fantastic way to send your BMW to the grave quickly and easily.

Leave the launching to a Dodge Charger, Chevy Camaro or even a Ford GT500 or Shelby.
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We don't.

These cars are not drag queens, and it's a fantastic way to send your BMW to the grave quickly and easily.

Leave the launching to a Dodge Charger, Chevy Camaro or even a Ford GT500 or Shelby.
Yeah, I don't plan to do it often. I just need to do it once for a video shoot.
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UPDATE: So I attempted the DS, traction disabled, left foot on break, right on gas letting go of break at 2,400 RPMs technique, and was I impressed! I didn't think my car had it in him to do a burnout/slide for a solid 4 house length while slamming my head against the seat. I also tried it in M1 mode, which didn't pull as hard, but it was still very impressive. I don't plan to do this often, just wanted to give it a try. Just thought I'd share my experience with you all. If you want to try this, I recommend doing it on a none busy open road, you can easily lose control and hurt someone if you don't know what you're doing.
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Nothing wrong with launching
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I can just leave it in D mode and still burn pretty much most cars off the traffic light. I love manual transmissions, but the steptronic is so much quicker in every day driving. To replicate the quickness of the steptronic, you would basically have to push the manual close to its limit every time you drive it. Steptronic is quick by default.
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I can just leave it in D mode and still burn pretty much most cars off the traffic light. I love manual transmissions, but the steptronic is so much quicker in every day driving. To replicate the quickness of the steptronic, you would basically have to push the manual close to its limit every time you drive it. Steptronic is quick by default.
Quick, but not 'fun' like a manual.

Pushing the shifter/paddles do nothing for me. I wish I would have looked for a manual but there's always next time.
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I can just leave it in D mode and still burn pretty much most cars off the traffic light. I love manual transmissions, but the steptronic is so much quicker in every day driving. To replicate the quickness of the steptronic, you would basically have to push the manual close to its limit every time you drive it. Steptronic is quick by default.
Thanks, that's good to know. Wush I've gotten a 335i sometimes lol
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I can just leave it in D mode and still burn pretty much most cars off the traffic light. I love manual transmissions, but the steptronic is so much quicker in every day driving. To replicate the quickness of the steptronic, you would basically have to push the manual close to its limit every time you drive it. Steptronic is quick by default.
Quick, but not 'fun' like a manual.

Pushing the shifter/paddles do nothing for me. I wish I would have looked for a manual but there's always next time.
I agree that the manual is more fun. No doubt about it. But I also enjoy using the paddles, especially on twisty roads. If steptronic did not give me the chance to shift my own gears, which is how I drive 95 percent of the time, I would trade it in for manual.
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So what is the general consensus on this? Is it safe to do once in a while, or should this now be done on our autos? I would think this puts tremendous stress on the transmission.
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put it in m2 rev to 2k-2500k rpm's, release brake, but don't slam the gas down as it will downshift. thats the best most effective way to launch car. m1 is a waste.
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I agree that the manual is more fun. No doubt about it. But I also enjoy using the paddles, especially on twisty roads. If steptronic did not give me the chance to shift my own gears, which is how I drive 95 percent of the time, I would trade it in for manual.
But if you shift gears manually 95% of the time, wouldn't you prefer a manual anyway? I'm lucky. A manual was something I wasn't willing to compromise on and I found the car I wanted. Even if the availability is scarcer.
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put it in m2 rev to 2k-2500k rpm's, release brake, but don't slam the gas down as it will downshift. thats the best most effective way to launch car. m1 is a waste.
for a 335 anyway...
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"Launching" an auto is exactly what you and said and yes it's terrible for your torque converter. Wouldn't recommend doing this regularly but to answer your question, yes that is the only way.
Now I wonder if it's better doing this in M1 mode or DS mode. Which would give more pull?
It's funny actually. When I'm in DS mode my car will shift into second gear at like 4,500 rpm which I find very odd. However to answer your question, neither mode has more power so they both will pull the same. I prefer manual and let it redline because then it will just rev out the gear.
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So what is the general consensus on this? Is it safe to do once in a while, or should this now be done on our autos? I would think this puts tremendous stress on the transmission.
If you wanted to try it once in a while that's on you. Will launching once kill it? No. It puts more stress on your torque converter because that's where the power goes when it's not going to the wheels. It's extremely complicated for me to explain how a torque converter works haha but basically if you want to launch you need a clutch. (Manual and DCT)

I have a 328 but from what I drove, in a 335 you don't really need to launch it's still fast just hitting it.
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If you wanted to try it once in a while that's on you. Will launching once kill it? No. It puts more stress on your torque converter because that's where the power goes when it's not going to the wheels. It's extremely complicated for me to explain how a torque converter works haha but basically if you want to launch you need a clutch. (Manual and DCT)

I have a 328 but from what I drove, in a 335 you don't really need to launch it's still fast just hitting it.
Yeah I mean I've only launched my car a few times as I don't want to put extra stress on any of the components. I don't think it's "much slower" than if I were to hold the brake in and do it that way...
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