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Just Carbon Ceramic Brakes
Anyone else thinking of just getting the carbon ceramic bakes (and 19" wheels), with no other options? Honestly none of the other options really intrigue me. There are some i would like to have, but not (price and useless features such as headlight washers) in an bloated package. Or save myself 10K. The car probably sees 2-3 track days/year. Just thought the longevity and 40+ lbs of unsprung weight savings will be nice. Oh and the bling factor. .
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04-02-2014, 04:55 PM | #2 |
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If I were you I'd go check out Rennlist and read a few posts. The vast majority of 911 owners who have carbon brakes take them off before doing track days.
Not only that but if you were to order a base car with only carbon brakes I wouldn't hope for much on resale for just that one option.
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They will last longer if the car is used exclusively on the street but if they see track time, they perform better, but they do not last longer. That is the reason why the Porsche guys take their carbon rotors off before their cars see track time. They are prohibitively expensive to replace.
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Me too, can't wait. I love them on my GT3, including using them on track. One of the main benefits that isn't discussed often is just how much better the steering feel is. I've driven GT3's with and without PCCBs back to back, and the difference is pretty stark.
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Post in the new suspension/brakes/chassis forum area. Read the good, long thread over there (used to be here before the re-org): http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=949083
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It seems they just cut and paste the info from the M5 configurator. http://www.bmwusa.com/standard/conte...modelcode=145G Last edited by CanAutM3; 04-03-2014 at 06:27 AM.. |
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This is something that was commonly done on the 996 GT3 with PCCB's - nice advantage to have the larger hardware (and the difference here is much larger between stock and carbon setups than with the Porsche) when you replace with larger metal rotors. There will be larger aftermarket metal rotors (larger diameter and thicker) designed to replace the carbon rotors almost immediately upon release of the cars and having the larger rotors, brake pads and calipers will help shed a bunch more heat than stock ones.
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Chevy ones (same as used on Enzo and Carrera GT) are cheap at around $1,200 each. Ferrari charges over 4 times as much for same part. Has anyone seen rotor replacement costs for M3/4. Probably more than $8k (remember that option cost is only the difference between steel and carbon - fully replacement set could be $10k afaik)
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I am not sure if there is such a market for new/slightly used CCBs with M3s vs. how many die hard track guys there are with Porsche. Just a gut feeling from reading some of the threads here regarding steel vs. CCB. Most would run regular rotor to avoid pay thousands. Think if I get it, I won't be taking them off.
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This, to me, is more reliable info than what is on the BMW.USA website (which is an obvious cut-and-paste from the M5 CCB). Last edited by CanAutM3; 04-07-2014 at 08:10 PM.. |
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I ordered the CCB option on my M3, I'm not one bit worried about replacement cost. The reason being I'm 100% sure that I will never replace the rotors. They not only last 3-4 times as long (which means to me 150k - 200K miles), but they don't warp like iron when they are overheated. If I lease my M3 it will cost me about $12 per month (about the cost of a cheap lunch) to have them. To me the cost isn't an issue. If it were I'd probably wouldn't be buying an M3.
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I found out that the replacement rotors and pads will be around 10 to 12 k at BMW dealership. Similar to the M6. Not worth it. Plus they work better ones you get some heat into them, not going to work that great for winter driving. I am going after market next year.
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