F30POST
F30POST
2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts
BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST > 2012-2019 BMW 3 and 4-Series Forums > General F30 Sedan / F32 Coupe / F36 Gran Coupe Forum > Rough idle / jumpy after cold start 328i x drive
GetBMWParts
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-12-2014, 06:06 PM   #1
marlin2911
Private First Class
marlin2911's Avatar
United_States
39
Rep
128
Posts

Drives: 2021 540i xDrive
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Yardley, PA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Rough idle / jumpy after cold start 328i x drive

Does anyone experience sort of a rough idle and the transmission being jumpy after a cold start on their 328? I notice that the car shifts overly hard and feels jumpy but it goes away after like a minute of driving and never comes back unless you leave the car off for several hours.
Appreciate 0
      03-12-2014, 06:27 PM   #2
ADM
Private First Class
21
Rep
182
Posts

Drives: 2014 328d xdr Msprt
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Long Island, NY

iTrader: (0)

Forgive me it I do not mention the "warm up" mode that most speak about before pulling out of the driveway, but my comment is more directed at if you notice any difference when you do this due to the outside temperature: 60+ vs. 40+, vs. below 30?

Just a thought...
Appreciate 0
      03-12-2014, 06:38 PM   #3
marlin2911
Private First Class
marlin2911's Avatar
United_States
39
Rep
128
Posts

Drives: 2021 540i xDrive
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Yardley, PA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
I actually notice it more now that the Temps are warming up... It's worse at 50-60 than it was at 20-30
Appreciate 0
      03-12-2014, 09:15 PM   #4
mge92
SPEED RACER
mge92's Avatar
United Kingdom
375
Rep
740
Posts

Drives: BMW X5 M50d BMW M2 CS
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: London

iTrader: (2)

I normally give my X3 with the same engine a min or two to let the oil circulate and it maybe jerky at first especially in cold weather but once it warms up a lil especially the transmission fluid ... it becomes as smooth as butter. It also helps if you take it easy for the first mile when it warms up.
Appreciate 0
      03-13-2014, 10:32 AM   #5
kppanic
Private
7
Rep
88
Posts

Drives: 2015 Macan S
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by marlin2911 View Post
Does anyone experience sort of a rough idle and the transmission being jumpy after a cold start on their 328? I notice that the car shifts overly hard and feels jumpy but it goes away after like a minute of driving and never comes back unless you leave the car off for several hours.
Exact same thing to my 2012 328i. Started happening during these colder winter months here in Toronto. On the first cold startup of the day it when I press on the start button it almost fails to start (i.e. struggles). It will idle very roughly, sometimes engine dipping below 600rpm and you can feel the shudder or the car struggling and the rpm shoots back up again. Then if I drive right away without doing a 30-45sec warmup the car jerks forward, until the engine begins to get warm.

It doesn't happen again until the next very cold start.
Appreciate 0
      03-13-2014, 11:55 AM   #6
jtuds
Major
Canada
71
Rep
1,111
Posts

Drives: 335rwd Dinan S2
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: London, ON

iTrader: (0)

If I get in the gas too early after a cold start it might stutter once but then It's fine after that.
Appreciate 0
      03-13-2014, 07:13 PM   #7
elevenmonkeys
Private
2
Rep
56
Posts

Drives: 2018 F15
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (0)

but in the car manual, it says just drive off at a lower speed, there's no need for warming up the car. I wonder if that's true?
Appreciate 0
      03-13-2014, 07:28 PM   #8
fecurtis
Banned
United_States
3262
Rep
6,299
Posts

Drives: 2014 BMW 335i M-Sport
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Arlington, VA

iTrader: (0)

Every car I've ever owned does that when the engine and transmission are cold. The car idles higher when it's cold because the car will throw more fuel into the cylinders to ease the start up process. Perfectly normal. This is why fuel economy is worse in colder climates.

Just gotta give it a few minutes to warm up, in the meantime just drive easy and keep the RPM's low.
Appreciate 0
      03-13-2014, 08:37 PM   #9
ingenieur
Private First Class
ingenieur's Avatar
24
Rep
196
Posts

Drives: 2011 335d MSport
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Horse country

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by fecurtis View Post
Every car I've ever owned does that when the engine and transmission are cold. The car idles higher when it's cold because the car will throw more fuel into the cylinders to ease the start up process. Perfectly normal. This is why fuel economy is worse in colder climates.

Just gotta give it a few minutes to warm up, in the meantime just drive easy and keep the RPM's low.
I do not agree...

The reason is that most engine starts have a catalyst heating phase in order to to meet the mandated "CSERS" standards - anyone can go to the ARB website to read the regulations.

To achieve the emission requirements and also retain desired driveability performance (smooth running) is to walk a fine line.

If you remember the carburetor cars with various choke mechanisms? We all just dealt with it right?

That is why with today's complex engine management systems it is possible to get in - start up and drive away - initial upshifts (AT) will be initially at a higher RPM but the transition is over after within a few km or so.

The performance and fuel economy specs. being achieved on the latest engines, while obviously still meeting the current and future stringent emission and CAFE standards, has brought some amazing digital technology into the automotive sector.

This ol' timer enjoys both worlds.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:49 AM.




f30post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST