[Adel-75]

Dear Mates ,

please can someone help me with this issue , I am surprised and scared I have my car BMW F30 316 I 04/2013 engine N13

when I look on my engine I found that the car turbo is getting too red and hot which scare me a lot .

I ve took the car to the BMW dealer : they change Turbo , Intercooler , Lambda sonde and nothing changes it still the same issue !

please advise what should I do ?

with kind regards

Adel

[bcl0328]

did they check if the turbo was getting oil/coolant?

[ft1330]

Wow that's a nice glow you got, damn.

[Adel-75]

Originally Posted by bcl0328

did they check if the turbo was getting oil/coolant?

Thank u for ur quick reaction

yes they check that ....it was ok

I ve gone trying another F30 316 i Auto , I have take a look on the Turbo it wasnt red like that .

mine is manual gearbox

I dont know what to do

[drob23]

This is an engine not offered in NA, so most on this board will not be familiar with it. I would research it a bit and see if you can find message boards from other makes that run this engine - looks like it was co-developed by BMW and PSA Peugeot Citroën, a lot of Citroën cars have it, as seen here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_N13...e_turbocharged

[Adel-75]

Originally Posted by drob23

This is an engine not offered in NA, so most on this board will not be familiar with it. I would research it a bit and see if you can find message boards from other makes that run this engine - looks like it was co-developed by BMW and PSA Peugeot Citroën, a lot of Citroën cars have it, as seen here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_N13...e_turbocharged

Thank u Mate for ur reply , I will try to google it

[chetman7]

My past few turbocharged cars turbo would glow orange/red after a nice WOT run

[drob23]

That engine is also a lot more overworked I'd bet. Ford had problems with their 1.6T engine on the escape, mainly because it was overworked for that application. A diesel engine should be better in a downsized application - more usable torque. Less high end revving range to strain the turbo.

[Adel-75]

Originally Posted by chetman7

My past few turbocharged cars turbo would glow orange/red after a nice WOT run

Thanks

which car model were u driving ?

[chetman7]

Originally Posted by Adel-75

Thanks

which car model were u driving ?

They weren't BMW's in particular but a 13T Hyundai, an upgraded td05-16g Genesis and also 19T turbos. I.'ve always thought of it being normal almost how you see manifold get as red from heat after a nice run.

But that is my 2 cents.

[dcg71]

I've had a 316i service loan car for almost 2 weeks. I'm surprised there's an engine in there at all actually

Next time it goes for a run I'll check the turbo and report back.

[Adel-75]

Originally Posted by dcg71

I've had a 316i service loan car for almost 2 weeks. I'm surprised there's an engine in there at all actually

Next time it goes for a run I'll check the turbo and report back.

hi , great , I will wait for ur report , mine is manual ...!

[Naambezet]

How did you drive to achive that?

[Adel-75]

Originally Posted by Naambezet

How did you drive to achive that?

hello

no drifting but just boost activated , sport mode for 15 km and speed between 120 km /h and 200 km /h , photos taken at night and outside temp is 9 degree c ....

With kind regards

Adel

[Geekenstein]

I believe that's normal. Turbos are awesome and scary.

Although on the more powerful models you wouldn't see it as much because you don't need to give it full throttle so much.

[yachitunpiwo]

I would research it a bit and see if you can find message boards from other makes that run this engine

[ipp]

Originally Posted by drob23

This is an engine not offered in NA, so most on this board will not be familiar with it. I would research it a bit and see if you can find message boards from other makes that run this engine - looks like it was co-developed by BMW and PSA Peugeot Citroën, a lot of Citroën cars have it, as seen here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_N13...e_turbocharged

I thought that the N13/N18 basically was the same engine as the N20 except it's 1,6 liter instead of 2,0 liter.

I had the N18 (What they call it in the MINI) in a MINI Cooper S with 184 hp. It got very hot, the fan and water pump was often on when I left the car. Never saw it glow like that though. But I'm not sure I looked either.

[ipp]

I think you should do a post in the 1-series (F20/F21) forum here as well. There are many more with these engines. I know that one member here called ovekvam he has a 116i M-Sport which he races on track with now and then.

[drob23]

Originally Posted by ipp

I thought that the N13/N18 basically was the same engine as the N20 except it's 1,6 liter instead of 2,0 liter.

I had the N18 (What they call it in the MINI) in a MINI Cooper S with 184 hp. It got very hot, the fan and water pump was often on when I left the car. Never saw it glow like that though. But I'm not sure I looked either.

Not according to that article, BMW threw some of their advanced engine control systems like VANOS, DI and turbo technology into an older engine. The previous gen of the motor was originally developed by a BMW subsidiary in Brazil. The goal was always to put these in Mini's - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritec_engine

[ipp]

Originally Posted by drob23

Not according to that article, BMW threw some of their advanced engine control systems like VANOS, DI and turbo technology into an older engine. The previous gen of the motor was originally developed by a BMW subsidiary in Brazil. The goal was always to put these in Mini's - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritec_engine

Yeah, the Tritec engine was used in the first BMW MINI-generation until 2007. Then they used the PSA joint venture "Prince engine" for the second generation of the new MINI. The Prince engine has nothing to do with the Tritec, it has DI and VANOS & TwinScroll turbo. And as I've understood it, it's closely related to the N20.

[synclastica_86]

Originally Posted by Adel-75

hello

no drifting but just boost activated , sport mode for 15 km and speed between 120 km /h and 200 km /h , photos taken at night and outside temp is 9 degree c ....

With kind regards

Adel

The speed you were driving the the outside temperature are not the most important factors. What's important is how much acceleration did the car undergo. The temperature of the turbo is very high compare to the ambient. 9 degrees or 25 degrees outside doesn't make a difference.

[Adel-75]

Originally Posted by synclastica_86

The speed you were driving the the outside temperature are not the most important factors. What's important is how much acceleration did the car undergo. The temperature of the turbo is very high compare to the ambient. 9 degrees or 25 degrees outside doesn't make a difference.

Thanks for the comments :

I need to clarify to you just that I mentionned the ambiant temp is arround 9 degree C actually and in Summer it can reach 40 Degree C , so it can be worst condition for the Turbo to get cooled

are there any additional tools to cool my Turbo ?

regards

Adel