proTUNING Freaks
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   BMW M3 and BMW M4 Forum > BMW F80 M3 / F82 M4 Forum > F80 M3 / M4 Pricing, Ordering, European Delivery

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      02-27-2014, 08:05 AM   #1
absoluteis350
Captain
absoluteis350's Avatar
409
Rep
977
Posts

Drives: 2016 Singapore Grey M3
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: boston

iTrader: (0)

Has anyone had ED pricing honored?

Just curious, has anyone had confirmation that the dealer will honor BMW NA's european delivery pricing ?? Or are all the cars being ordered for European delivery at US MSRP (which equates to a markup in my book)..
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 09:25 AM   #2
F82_SID
Brigadier General
F82_SID's Avatar
No_Country
207
Rep
3,153
Posts

Drives: 2020 M2C 6mt HK Silver
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Denver, CO. USA

iTrader: (2)

I havent heard of a dealer that wouldnt honer ED MSRP if not less!
__________________
2011/E92/M3/MR/BB/ZCV/ZP2/EDC/2MT
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 09:34 AM   #3
Keto
Lieutenant Colonel
Keto's Avatar
United_States
73
Rep
1,603
Posts

Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: WHO DAT NATION

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2015 BMW M3  [10.00]
My dealer has quoted me ED MSRP.
__________________
2015 SO/SO MT M3 :: Exec : Lighting : Adaptive : HK : CF trim : Full leather : DAP : Black 19's : sunshade
Crystalline tint 40%/70% on windshield : M performance mirrors, spoiler, splitters : Status Gruppe CF lip : RKP diffuser : Fully dechromed
Bavsound Stage 1 : V1 Savvy hardwired : Self-coded
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 09:38 AM   #4
SF848
Lieutenant
SF848's Avatar
United_States
43
Rep
401
Posts

Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Pasadena, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
In LA I have had mixed responses... Some say US MSRP (for ED cars) no matter what and a couple others said they would sell at ED MSRP

I also actually had a few say no ED would be available for M cars or that BMW did not have ED...
__________________
Current
Ducati
848 Streetfighter / F80 M3 Alpine White (ED: 6.23.14) 2014 ED Trip Photos
Retired

335iS Alpine White (ED 10.1.10) / 128i Montego Blue / Ducati 848 Dark SBK / Ducati Monster 696
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 10:29 AM   #5
Carl L
Major
Carl L's Avatar
196
Rep
1,248
Posts

Drives: '15 M3
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: West Coast

iTrader: (0)

ED MSRP at my SoCal dealer. Dealers trying to charge US MSRP for ED are having laugh.

ED's not worth it for the current savings at $4k, but for those who want a trip to Europe it's a great thing to do.
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 11:14 AM   #6
solstice
Major General
5457
Rep
7,037
Posts

Drives: 2015 M3 6MT
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Seattle

iTrader: (0)

Many of us travel yearly to Europe either for vacation or business. For us or at least me the ED savings are something I can't pass on. I'll wait a year if I have to.
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 11:43 AM   #7
dmk08
Gone Fishin’
dmk08's Avatar
United_States
7315
Rep
12,125
Posts

Drives: Walks
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Atlanta

iTrader: (19)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl L View Post
ED MSRP at my SoCal dealer. Dealers trying to charge US MSRP for ED are having laugh.

ED's not worth it for the current savings at $4k, but for those who want a trip to Europe it's a great thing to do.
If you go solo you could probably squeeze the trip in for 4k. The obvious win is seeing Europe!
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 11:53 AM   #8
mkoesel
Moderator
United_States
7506
Rep
19,370
Posts

Drives: No BMW for now
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Canton, MI

iTrader: (1)

I wonder how many people have ever paid above ED MSRP for an ED (on any BMW) ever. I have to think that number is near zero. So any dealership that is quoting US MSRP for an ED is essentially telling you they won't do ED IMHO. I don't think they honestly expect anyone to take that offer and complete the sale. I mean, I guess if someone is that desperate to both have the car early and drive it in Europe they might find a sucker. But IMHO at that point you are better off just doing US delivery and taking a European trip later or just giving up your spot in line and buying from a dealership willing to honor the ED price.
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 12:44 PM   #9
solstice
Major General
5457
Rep
7,037
Posts

Drives: 2015 M3 6MT
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Seattle

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mkoesel View Post
I wonder how many people have ever paid above ED MSRP for an ED (on any BMW) ever. I have to think that number is near zero. So any dealership that is quoting US MSRP for an ED is essentially telling you they won't do ED IMHO. I don't think they honestly expect anyone to take that offer and complete the sale. I mean, I guess if someone is that desperate to both have the car early and drive it in Europe they might find a sucker. But IMHO at that point you are better off just doing US delivery and taking a European trip later or just giving up your spot in line and buying from a dealership willing to honor the ED price.
+1
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 05:24 PM   #10
Racer20
Major
United_States
1030
Rep
1,190
Posts

Drives: F80 M3, 228i THP, E46 ZHP
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Ann Arbor, MI

iTrader: (0)

My dealer is honoring ED. I'll probably spend more on the trip than the $4K savings, but it's a way to get my wife as excited for the car as I am.
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 05:41 PM   #11
W12x
Captain
199
Rep
795
Posts

Drives: M3, Z/28, Evo Final Edition
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Houston

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SF848 View Post
In LA I have had mixed responses... Some say US MSRP (for ED cars) no matter what and a couple others said they would sell at ED MSRP

I also actually had a few say no ED would be available for M cars or that BMW did not have ED...
Based on what I heard

1. No ED discount for M cars at this time
2. Initial ED M3/M4 are coming out from dealer's own allocation
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 05:49 PM   #12
Mk95
New Member
United_States
0
Rep
19
Posts

Drives: BMW M4,
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Ohio

iTrader: (0)

My dealer has also honored ED. No premium. Waiting for the allocation and production slot. Hoping for a July pick up.
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 05:58 PM   #13
solstice
Major General
5457
Rep
7,037
Posts

Drives: 2015 M3 6MT
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Seattle

iTrader: (0)

This is encouraging. Several members getting ED at ED msrp. So it's just a matter on working with a good dealer nothing else is preventing it.
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 06:25 PM   #14
TTG
...
TTG's Avatar
United_States
932
Rep
4,323
Posts

Drives: M340
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Seattle, WA

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by solstice View Post
Many of us travel yearly to Europe either for vacation or business. For us or at least me the ED savings are something I can't pass on. I'll wait a year if I have to.

+1

All it adds is an extra day to my trip to go pick up the car and drop it off the same day (done it many times) while I am already there.

Plane, hotel & etc are already paid part of my normal expenses. So yes, I will take the extra savings especially, if I am getting a deal close to ED invoice.
__________________
2020 G20 M340 xDrive - Portimao Blue - ZDA|ZPP|ZPX|1CR|1PE|6NW|6WD
2016 F10 535i xDrive - AW - Retired
2011 E92 M3 - AW……………....ED April 29th, 2010 - Retired
2007 E92 335i -Space Gray.....ED Oct 19th, 2006 - Retired
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 07:15 PM   #15
Kludge
New Member
Kludge's Avatar
0
Rep
5
Posts

Drives: Prius -> M4
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Seattle

iTrader: (0)

Who is Offering ED?

So I just spoke to my dealer. He has the price sheet and he want's me to come in and spec-out my car. He still isn't taking orders, so he isn't asking for a security deposit, but he must be expecting some allocations soon enough that he will take my deposit now if I want to give it to him. (Back in early January he wouldn't take it at all.)

I want European Delivery. I love the idea of picking up my car in Germany and touring around Europe. I don't mind the discounts either.

My dealer is saying he doesn't know if ED is going to be possible on this model year M4. At first I thought he was saying that BMW just wasn't going to allow it. This didn't make sense, since we've all already seen the price sheet with the ED costs.

In fact, the dealer mentioned this himself. I said it doesn't make sense and then he slipped up... Apparently BMW makes special allocations of some models available specifically for ED. US dealers can sell these cars and it has no effect on their dealer allocations.

However, any BMW sold by a US dealer can be slated for ED from the dealer's allocation. My dealer has no plans to do this at the moment. My salesman says that they already have list of buyers greater than their allocation. (In other words, my dealer is expecting to get at or better than MSRP for now and the foreseeable future.)

The questions I have now are what to do? Is there a US dealer that is taking orders for ED? Is my dealer full of shit and he's going to be chock full of unused allocations a month from now? I want to be driving around Germany around July/August, not October/November, if I decide to wait, how long might I end up waiting and is there a chance that I not only loose my position in line right now, but I don't get in line again this year?

This is frustrating!!!
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 07:22 PM   #16
IND-Distribution
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
IND-Distribution's Avatar
United_States
9548
Rep
10,844
Posts


Drives: G80 M3 / G82 M4
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Chicago

iTrader: (3)

Steve Thomas BMW but not sure what their allocations look like.

Bmwdavid@icloud.com
__________________
IND DISTRIBUTION | 866-963-4520 • INSTAGRAMYOUTUBEFACEBOOKFLICKR
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 07:54 PM   #17
SF848
Lieutenant
SF848's Avatar
United_States
43
Rep
401
Posts

Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Pasadena, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by W12x View Post
Based on what I heard

1. No ED discount for M cars at this time
2. Initial ED M3/M4 are coming out from dealer's own allocation
Yeah... That's now been proven to be false information. It's only dealers that do not want to provide ED that have been saying that. But I definitely heard that from more than one dealer.
__________________
Current
Ducati
848 Streetfighter / F80 M3 Alpine White (ED: 6.23.14) 2014 ED Trip Photos
Retired

335iS Alpine White (ED 10.1.10) / 128i Montego Blue / Ducati 848 Dark SBK / Ducati Monster 696
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 08:25 PM   #18
GOLFFRR
GOLFFRR's Avatar
10723
Rep
27,536
Posts

Drives: GOLFFRR cart
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: we sell BMWs to "ALL" US states

iTrader: (4)

^^Thank you for the shout out! unfortunately we are fully committed and no longer taking anymore request for the M3/M4 at this time.

once allocations start to increase per month/year we can start to take on more orders.
__________________

BEFORE YOU BUY YOUR NEXT BMW, EMAIL OUR GUY KOTE FIRST!
Kote M Sales:Kotem@bmwofcamarillo.com Cell:805-368-9101
vipfinance@bmwofcamarillo.com for warranties!
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 08:29 PM   #19
GOLFFRR
GOLFFRR's Avatar
10723
Rep
27,536
Posts

Drives: GOLFFRR cart
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: we sell BMWs to "ALL" US states

iTrader: (4)

ed orders are coming out of dealer stock
dealers are only getting 1-2 a month
going to be hard to find any dealer who would be willing to go anything lower then ED MSRP (IMO)
most dealers will not even offer ED due to the allocations being so low.
__________________

BEFORE YOU BUY YOUR NEXT BMW, EMAIL OUR GUY KOTE FIRST!
Kote M Sales:Kotem@bmwofcamarillo.com Cell:805-368-9101
vipfinance@bmwofcamarillo.com for warranties!
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 09:09 PM   #20
toni8284
Captain
toni8284's Avatar
United_States
137
Rep
718
Posts

Drives: N/A
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Phila, PA

iTrader: (5)

Garage List
2011 BMW 1M  [10.00]
2016 M3  [0.00]
I got my dealer to give me $1000 off ED MSRP.

since I got my 1M from him, which also I got the same $1000 off MSRP.
__________________
2021 F87 HS M2C
2018 F80 SO M3 (SOLD)
2016 F80 AY M3 (SOLD)
2014 F10 M5 LCI (SOLD)
2011 VO 1M (SOLD)
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 10:41 PM   #21
SF848
Lieutenant
SF848's Avatar
United_States
43
Rep
401
Posts

Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Pasadena, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by toni8284 View Post
I got my dealer to give me $1000 off ED MSRP.

since I got my 1M from him, which also I got the same $1000 off MSRP.
That's awesome! Wish I would have held out for the 1m... But was hard to get in LA for a decent price without a hook up
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2014, 11:04 PM   #22
fuddman
Major
353
Rep
1,401
Posts

Drives: 528-maybe
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kludge View Post
The questions I have now are what to do? Is there a US dealer that is taking orders for ED?
My sales person is telling me that, at this point in time, BMW is refunding to the dealer the ED discount given to the customer. In essence, BMW guarantees the dealer a US MSRP sale for M cars sold at ED MSRP. How long this lasts and why BMW is doing it is anybody's guess.

However, dealers who believe they can sell their cars for more than US MSRP are not likely going to sell the car at ED MSRP. The reason, obviously, is they would lose money because BMW wont reimburse the dealer any money over and above US MSRP.

Bottom line, there is no consistency, at least right now, between dealers in so far as what they are charging or what they will commit to. The good news is, as the thread above suggests, there seems to be ED deals to be found. Keep in mind, too, that some salespersons are just not up to speed on ED transactions. If you suspect that to be the case, try and elevate the discussion to the sales manager.

Don't give up. Expand your search area, convey your commitment to the buy and I'll bet you'll find a dealer just waiting to take your money on an ED deal.
You're right, Germany is very nice July & August. It's not that bad in February if you like to ski.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:51 PM.




f80post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST