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      02-08-2014, 06:29 PM   #1
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I was going to order the 18 inch wheels and tires. I am an old autoX who always selected the smallest reasonable diameter wheels. The pictures of the 19 inch shows Michelin Super Sports. I do not see that Michelin makes a 275/40/18 in Super Sports for the rear. Does this mean that Michelin will start producing that size or will BMW use a lower level tires on the 18 inch wheels?
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I was going to order the 18 inch wheels and tires. I am an old autoX who always selected the smallest reasonable diameter wheels. The pictures of the 19 inch shows Michelin Super Sports. I do not see that Michelin makes a 275/40/18 in Super Sports for the rear. Does this mean that Michelin will start producing that size or will BMW use a lower level tires on the 18 inch wheels?
M3s traditionally shipped with various tire brands, I believe the current M3 came with contis as well as pirellis at some point and no I dont think Michelin will make a tire just for M3.
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BMW normally uses more than one OEM tire, even for M cars. If you get 19s likely no guarantee that you will get PSS tires. Same for the 18s. On your other point, yes Michelin would make a size specific for a model. Al tire mfgs do this to some degree, if not just for sizes but also thing like load rating. You will note certain markers like a star on the sidewall which would denote that it is an OEM spec tire. BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari and others do this.
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BMW normally uses more than one OEM tire, even for M cars. If you get 19s likely no guarantee that you will get PSS tires. Same for the 18s. On your other point, yes Michelin would make a size specific for a model. Al tire mfgs do this to some degree, if not just for sizes but also thing like load rating. You will note certain markers like a star on the sidewall which would denote that it is an OEM spec tire. BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari and others do this.
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yes, I do think Michelin would create this size for BMW. but I do also recognize that there could be up to three different tires BMW chooses to use (Pzero's, Contis, Super Sports).

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I was going to order the 18 inch wheels and tires. I am an old autoX who always selected the smallest reasonable diameter wheels. The pictures of the 19 inch shows Michelin Super Sports. I do not see that Michelin makes a 275/40/18 in Super Sports for the rear. Does this mean that Michelin will start producing that size or will BMW use a lower level tires on the 18 inch wheels?
An 18-inch the from Michelin specifically for the M3? No. Likely some other brand like Continental.
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An 18-inch the from Michelin specifically for the M3? No. Likely some other brand like Continental.
It's very common to have tires specifically made for a manufacturer.

If you look at the 19" tires on the show cars, they have a * marking, which I'm told tells that it's a tire made specifically for a manufacturer.

Guide to Michelin markings:

http://www.michelin.co.uk/tyres/tyre-reader
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A friend of mine does rep work for Michelin and he's stated that the M3/M4 will come with Michelin Pilot Super Sports. He's also very well connected with BMW NA and BMW Motorsports and recently signed a contract with BMW CCA. He currently owns an E46 M3 with PSSs and plans to buy an M4.
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You can't achieve 0-60 in 3.9/4.1 without PSS... :-). I have PSS and these tires are amazing. Significantly better than PS2. So I think BMW will ask Michelin to produce PSS in 275/40/18 size.
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I'd be kind of pissed if I didn't get PSS on a new F8X M3/M4. That surely is the street tyre of choice currently of all equivalent competitors offerings
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I called Michelin today and was told they show nothing about going to production on a 275/40/18 in the Pilot Super Sport. I would hate to go 18s and find there is not availability of a high performance tire in that size. I even called Tire Rack and was told that there is not an equivalent to the PSS by any other manufacturer. I wonder what BMW will mount on the 18 inch rims.
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Wow good question. Maybe we'll get the 265 on the rear? It really wouldn't lose much to the 275, but it would be a slight disadvantage.
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What performance tires are currently available for the 18" wheels? Has anyone looked this up yet?

edit: It look's like PS2's are available for the rears at least, Potenza RE050a's are also available, they're decent. Can someone remind me what the front tire size will be?

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i think m3/mw qill come with Michelin Super Sport. They are available in the dimensions
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Are you saying that 275/40/18 Super Sports are available in Germany? That would be great news for us 18 inch wheel lovers.
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Are you saying that 275/40/18 Super Sports are available in Germany? That would be great news for us 18 inch wheel lovers.
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Yep, both 255/40/18 (front) and 275/40/18 (rear) are available and they're both BMW specification.


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i just checked this evening(german time an they are available incl * So, it means a special production for bmw an for the reason that no other bmw use that sizes it must be m3/m4
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So I will keep OEM 18" for winter and buy Apex ec 7 for summer: http://europeanautosource.com/produc...wheel-set.html



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M3/M4 were advertised as equipped with PSS tires, at least for the 19 inch sizes.

Michelin already make PS2 in 255/40/18 and 275/40/18, but since PSS is relatively newer and is not available in that many different sizes.
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You can't achieve 0-60 in 3.9/4.1 without PSS... :-). I have PSS and these tires are amazing. Significantly better than PS2. So I think BMW will ask Michelin to produce PSS in 275/40/18 size.
The biggest pro of PSS is the price, they are about 25-30% cheaper than PS2, and have longer thread life as well.

25-30% cheaper, same if not better performance, and longer thread life, sounds like a no brainer to me
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Yep, both 255/40/18 (front) and 275/40/18 (rear) are available and they're both BMW specification.


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Awesome, thanks for confirming!
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