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      01-24-2014, 12:09 PM   #1
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My experience performing motor oil change with less than 10K.............

My first oil change was at 5K miles on my own. The oil level capacity is not listed in the manual; so, I checked with three BMW dealers and got three different answers as to the amount of motor oil needed with the filter. The answers were...7qts., 7.5qts., and 8qts.

So, I put in 7qts. just to be on the safe side. I did the iDrive oil level computation and it showed "maximum". I also checked the oil level using the dipstick and it read higher than maximum. I then called the service manager who agreed to look into my concerns. During the initial call, he said there is no dipstick. An hour later he called back and told me there was an oil dipstick and the refill is 5.5qts. He also provided me with the pic from the BMW online tech manual listing the oil capacity for my car. Put it in, take it out, what a pain.

I'm hopeful my future experiences will be better.
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Don't have anything to add other than man that sucks. I feel your pain! Knowing it's only 5.5qts will hopfully help others in the future.
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      01-25-2014, 07:28 PM   #3
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You would need one of those, it will save you lots of time and efforts...

http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/Site...l_Tool/ES4371/
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You would need one of those, it will save you lots of time and efforts...

http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/Site...l_Tool/ES4371/
I would never, ever use one of those.
Basically, as your oil does all that mileage, crud that goes into the oil settles into the sump (think of the sump like a bilge tank on a boat). Then, when you take out the drain plug at the bottom of the sump, you empty that bilge tank.

If you use one of those pumps, all that crud stays in the sump.

There is a phrase that comes to mind : penny wise, pound foolish.
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It's funny that you use the bilge pump example. The vacuum tool is exactly how they change the oil on many boats, because pan access is a problem. I'd be interested to hear if ECS TUNING feels that oil changes using the pump are less effective. In my own experience, the pump seems to get all the oil, and I thought particulates were suspended in the (still hot) oil.
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Yup, as you say, those pumps are used on boat engines where access is an issue.

But boat engines usually have much shorter oil change intervals (100 to 150 hours). At an average speed of even 60 mph, that would work out at an oil change every 6,000 to 9,000 miles.
But marine engine usage is very different to car engine usage, I'll accept that.

Regarding using the pump, or using the sump plug : if you buy the 'service kit' there is a sump plug washer included, for you to change. That tells me everything about the 'right' way of doing the job.
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Regarding these oil changes, use of syphon pumps, etc. I knew I'd seen an interesting article somewhere, here it is :

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/impo...-of-clean-oil/

Bearing in mind that this guy specialises in consumer advice, and has spent a lifetime in the trade, probably well worth taking notice of what he says
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My experience performing motor oil change with less than 10K.............

My first oil change was at 5K miles on my own. The oil level capacity is not listed in the manual; so, I checked with three BMW dealers and got three different answers as to the amount of motor oil needed with the filter. The answers were...7qts., 7.5qts., and 8qts.

So, I put in 7qts. just to be on the safe side. I did the iDrive oil level computation and it showed "maximum". I also checked the oil level using the dipstick and it read higher than maximum. I then called the service manager who agreed to look into my concerns. During the initial call, he said there is no dipstick. An hour later he called back and told me there was an oil dipstick and the refill is 5.5qts. He also provided me with the pic from the BMW online tech manual listing the oil capacity for my car. Put it in, take it out, what a pain.

I'm hopeful my future experiences will be better.
Did my first one at 4000 miles. Went to the dealer to buy the filter and oil. Of course they said 'no you need 8 qts.' I laughed and told them 'no give me 6 for 5.5'. They wanted to argue! I told them to sell me 6 and go look it up. Geez.
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So for sure it's 5.5 quarts? Normally E9x gas Bmw's take approx 7 litres of oil....


what kind of oil is it? same BMW Castrol 5w30 as the Gas models?
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So for sure it's 5.5 quarts? Normally E9x gas Bmw's take approx 7 litres of oil....


what kind of oil is it? same BMW Castrol 5w30 as the Gas models?
our 328d took 5.5 qts. must use LL04 oil because of the the DPF.
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our 328d took 5.5 qts. must use LL04 oil because of the the DPF.
Sweet thanks! which oil did you use? I can buy from the dealer with discount...
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Sweet thanks! which oil did you use? I can buy from the dealer with discount...
The dealer only has Castrol Professional SLX 5W-30, rated LL-04. There are several threads noting other sources of LL-04 oil; search will find them.
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Sweet thanks! which oil did you use? I can buy from the dealer with discount...
Castrol Edge turbo diesel 5W-40 & Redline Euro 5w-40
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My car is according to BMW and Castrol supposed to take 0w-30 castrol edge titanium, a real high quality oil.

Probably because I live in such a cold climate where temps sometime drop to -30 c.
Mine took 5.2 litres pretty much exactly like specified.
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My changing interval 4500-5000 miles (~ 7500-8500 km).
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The first oil change shouldn't be too soon. Because the first oil filled by the factory is completely different than the ones in the market. They are meant for breaking in the raw metal. i do mine between 10-15k km, depends on how long the period is. Usually shouldn't be longer than a year. BMW service is too elementary! 30k km for oil and filter. Air filter 60km as well as fuel filter! transmission oil is life time. It also depends the climate and environment. If it 's very dusty or a lot of elements, you should consider too change yours more often. In addition, if you do more city drive, change interval should be shorter.
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Look at my air filter at 15 km:

Next time i'll change in 10 km)))
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I did mine around 30km, it was not as bad as yours. maybe because I clean them some time when I do the engine bay.
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Be aware that Castrol makes several variations of their Edge motor oil. Be sure it is the one that meets the BMW LL-04 spec. Once my car is out of the free maintenance window I plan on switching to AMSOIL Low Saps European synthetic. Those of you who wish to change your oil every 5000 miles or 8000 km might want to send your oil in for an analysis. You'll be surprised at how much life that oil still has.
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You would need one of those, it will save you lots of time and efforts...

http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/Site...l_Tool/ES4371/
I would never, ever use one of those.
Basically, as your oil does all that mileage, crud that goes into the oil settles into the sump (think of the sump like a bilge tank on a boat). Then, when you take out the drain plug at the bottom of the sump, you empty that bilge tank.

If you use one of those pumps, all that crud stays in the sump.

There is a phrase that comes to mind : penny wise, pound foolish.
pretty sure he just needs to take out the 1.5 extra oil he chucked in, as the oil has just been changed this would be a perfect tool for the job
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Be aware that Castrol makes several variations of their Edge motor oil. Be sure it is the one that meets the BMW LL-04 spec. Once my car is out of the free maintenance window I plan on switching to AMSOIL Low Saps European synthetic. Those of you who wish to change your oil every 5000 miles or 8000 km might want to send your oil in for an analysis. You'll be surprised at how much life that oil still has.
im almost certain most moderb oils and LL oils go much farther however my own reasons for short intervals.is to remove the carbon / micro metals and deisel pollution from the oil. which in turn decreases wear.

even after 1 or 2k miles in a diesel you can remove the cap dip your finger in and feel how grainy the oil is **carbon pollution**
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If you can feel the grains, your oil filter isn't doing its job. A good oil filter should remove particles down to the microns in size. Small enough that you can't feel them. Why not send a sample of your oil in for testing at 5K miles? They'll tell you exactly how much particulate is in your oil. Why is it that over the road truckers can drive so many miles on a single oil change, but a car engine cannot? I'd expect all that "grain" to sandpaper my engine away after being in my oil for even a few thousand miles.
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