[jeremynpross]

Good news. The latest Progman v27.02.02 has a number of much-needed improvements to the iPod functions in iDrive as well as other areas. My 335i coupe (April 2-007 build) received new programming in 18 modules. I had the factory Progman, probably V25. Note that the new incremental upgrades to 20 (the .02.02) are "online upgrades" received by the dealer. They are not documented in the SIB that the dealer has (the release notes for Progman versions). Kudos to Center BMW in Sherman Oaks for putting my car in for reprogramming based on my complaint about slow scrolling in the iPod even though they had nothing in writing that said the new release contained this magical fix. If anyone knows what this upgrade fixes, please post.

- Fast scrolling through Artist and other lists.
No more "slow scrolling" problem. Now when I spin the wheel, the list goes gray and switches to numbers that go by very quickly. It used to take me 7-8 minutes to scroll to "Z" artists. Now it only takes about 20 seconds.

- Returns to place in list
It is now possible to go back logically. Selecting a higher level folder in the secoind line submenu takes you there. Selecting "back" at the top takes you to the list you were in on the entry you clicked. It used to jump back to the very top of the list.

- Remembers Playlist after restarting car
Now loads audio data and displays full playlist when the car is restarted. It used to display only the current song after a restart.

- EQ better balanced with CD and FM sources
Now sounds very comparable to other program sources. It used to be too bass-heavy.

- Better EQ and cleaner sound overall on all program sources
This is hard to quantify without instruments to analyse frequency, but I can tell immediately that the sound is cleaner and the flat setting is now a good starting point. The highs used to have a spitting, brittle quality in the 5k to 10khz range. Now they are cleaner even when turned up. More noticeable is the lack of boominess in the 70-100 hz range. I used to have to drop the 100 hz equalizer slider a lot to clean it up. Now I can use a conventional U shaped "loudness" style curve and get great sound. I need to experiment but it seems that in general it's possible to just adjust frequencies to taste rather than adjusting to make up for deficiencies in the EQ.

...and other improvements (non audio)

- Remembers all climate control settings
It used to forget if I has the air recirculation on and always went back to free-flow after car restart. Now it stays as it was.

- Smoother acceleration
Part throttle starts in D no longer produce the little lurch or surge that so many folks have commented on. The throttle feels a tiny bit less responsive, as if the timing was retarded a bit, but it's far easier to drive smoothly. The problem was less in Sport before, but now Sport also seems smoother. I haven't timed it in a 0-60 run but I don't think the car is detuned, just readjusted so thgat launch is easier in real-world and not test-track driving here in SoCal where traffic precludes the sort of aggressive starts that I would normally make if there was no traffic.

[zenmaster]

- Fast scrolling through Artist and other lists.
No more "slow scrolling" problem. Now when I spin the wheel, the list goes gray and switches to numbers that go by very quickly. It used to take me 7-8 minutes to scroll to "Z" artists. Now it only takes about 20 seconds.

About time!

- Smoother acceleration
Part throttle starts in D no longer produce the little lurch or surge that so many folks have commented on.

What did they do? What is the 6MT equivalent of "D"?

[SoYank]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

What is the 6MT equivalent of "D"?

First-Second-Third-Fourth-Fifth-Sixth; your choice.

[Tag]

I got my car reprogrammed last week. What did your work order say?

Mine said this....

PERFORMED SIB 65 30 07 REPROGRAMMED COMPLETE VEHICLE INCLUDING CAS.

[Park2670]

Glad to know all the updates. Im probably getting my car programmed soon.

[bavarian19]

I need to get my nav software upgraded. To the best of my knowledge, my nav software is somewhere around v24.

I have had issues, and Im hoping to get v27 when I bring my car in for its 15k service soon...

[Tag]

Originally Posted by bavarian19

I need to get my nav software upgraded. To the best of my knowledge, my nav software is somewhere around v24.

I have had issues, and Im hoping to get v27 when I bring my car in for its 15k service soon...

It fixed a lot of issues and is worth your hassle. In addition to what the OP stated it also fixed the little lurch forward when braking that was caused by Comfort Stop. The brakes are not as "sticky" anymore either and it does feel smother.

[hl0m4n]

by any chance is there an official tsb on v27.02.02?

[e92phreak]

AWESOME!!! This is what I was looking for *sigh*... got 27.1.2 *sigh*... should have waited...

Yeah... does anyone have the official bulletin for this progman update?

[wj4]

Kudos to Center BMW in Sherman Oaks for putting my car in for reprogramming based on my complaint about slow scrolling in the iPod even though they had nothing in writing that said the new release contained this magical fix. If anyone knows what this upgrade fixes, please post.

Who did you talk to at Center BMW?

i hope this doesnt relate to the 335i, but the v 27 upgrade on the E60 M5s make the car slower and it has been confirmed....

[Tag]

Originally Posted by that guy nico

i hope this doesnt relate to the 335i, but the v 27 upgrade on the E60 M5s make the car slower and it has been confirmed....

I read something similar but there was no "proof". Do you have a link to that? If this is true I will lose my mind

[Tag]

Originally Posted by hl0m4n

by any chance is there an official tsb on v27.02.02?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...1&d=1194400690

Originally Posted by tag824

I read something similar but there was no "proof". Do you have a link to that? If this is true I will lose my mind

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...ghlight=idrive

my brother is jealous of my idrive

[wj4]

I wonder why BMW would do such thing on the M5.

[Park2670]

I really wonder if its just adaptations. My car always seems slow after getting it programmed, then drive it for a week and its back. It could just be it going back to good fuel mileage from the latest progman and then need to be driven hard to go back up to the top power maps

[Mace]

Originally Posted by that guy nico

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...ghlight=idrive

my brother is jealous of my idrive

There's no proof in that link, just one guy who claims he dynoed his car before and after the change. Different dyno numbers can easily be attributed to simple changes in the weather if appropriate correction factors are not applied or different dynos are used. Others in the same thread say they haven't seen any measureable difference.

[e92law]

How did you guys get this done? Did you have to pay for it. My car just went in and they wouldn't do an update unless the car calls for it.

[cobradac]

Originally Posted by that guy nico

i hope this doesnt relate to the 335i, but the v 27 upgrade on the E60 M5s make the car slower and it has been confirmed....

Be careful when you say v27 as there are
27.00.00
27.01.00
27.01.01
27.02.00
27.02.01
and
27.02.02
for the e60/e63 series

Which one are you refering to?

Originally Posted by Mace

There's no proof in that link, just one guy who claims he dynoed his car before and after the change. Different dyno numbers can easily be attributed to simple changes in the weather if appropriate correction factors are not applied or different dynos are used. Others in the same thread say they haven't seen any measureable difference.

very true.... but then again im not sure if i'd still take my chances
well.... at least my brother wouldnt

Originally Posted by cobradac

Be careful when you say v27 as there are
27.00.00
27.01.00
27.01.01
27.02.00
27.02.01
and
27.02.02
for the e60/e63 series

Which one are you refering to?

not too sure. the guy in that link i posted just states "v27"

[myfirstbmw335i]

congrats on a dealer that does the right thing....

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94508

[Park2670]

I got my car updated yesterday, and the ipod while it is faster, still takes forever to scroll down the list. Am I doing something wrong? Also it still reverts to the top of the list when going back out to the main menu.