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      12-14-2013, 11:16 AM   #1
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xdrive 2 series CDN market

Dealer in local vacinity showed me document highlighting coming 2 series and
Had reference to xdrive models for july and after production. 228 was 39500 and m235 was near 49000 so about 4k more than base and only as auto trans no stick.
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      12-14-2013, 03:01 PM   #2
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Dealer in local vacinity showed me document highlighting coming 2 series and
Had reference to xdrive models for july and after production. 228 was 39500 and m235 was near 49000 so about 4k more than base and only as auto trans no stick.
Well, if auto tranny is a $1.5K option on the M235i, and auto tranny is standard on the XDrive model then the XDrive feature is really only $2.5K, n'est pas?
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      12-14-2013, 03:57 PM   #3
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I think they are charging 1.5k for auto and 2.5k for xdrive just rounding them together . on a side note the document notes the short throw 6 speed manual is sharedwith the upcoming m3/m4!
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      12-14-2013, 07:48 PM   #4
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on a side note the document notes the short throw 6 speed manual is shared with the upcoming m3/m4!
that would be awesome if true
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      12-22-2013, 09:32 AM   #5
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Forgive my ignorance if this has already been addressed, but will xdrive models be limited to Canada for North America? I've heard rumors, but is there any real proof yet that bmw intends to introduce xdrive for 2 series in US market? Might they wait a full year to introduce it to US?
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      12-22-2013, 09:48 AM   #6
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Most likely the document I saw indicated that having xdrive variant, would get more potential customers to buy one. This will be in Usa market as well. I guess BMW is trying to flood their model line up with every kind of variant so as to keep/iincrease market share and hold down rivals like audi and Mercedes. Audi a3 sedan will come in quattro so BMW needs to combat with an xdrive 2er . off coursecoupe vs sedan but with xdrive variant may sway those considering the a3. Course that is just my opinion.
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      12-22-2013, 10:36 AM   #7
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No facts, just my opinion that Canada on its own is too small a market to get the xDrive by itself (ie. the NA market, mainly US, will get the xDrive).

And if limited to auto tranny only, I won't get the xDrive. 6MT for me.
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pretty terrible that the M235 is going to be 'xdrive'.......this car is a watered down mess! All the early reviews are suggesting it is boring/unstimulating to drive...and now Xdrive!?? hardly a FUN RWD Coupe like everyone was expecting....

hope the M2 isn't xdrive too.....LOL
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      12-22-2013, 12:43 PM   #9
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pretty terrible that the M235 is going to be 'xdrive'.......this car is a watered down mess! All the early reviews are suggesting it is boring/unstimulating to drive...and now Xdrive!?? hardly a FUN RWD Coupe like everyone was expecting....

hope the M2 isn't xdrive too.....LOL
Agree with your comments re xDrive, but not sure of your sources that claim the M235i is "boring/unstimulating to drive"? Can you elaborate?
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Agree with your comments re xDrive, but not sure of your sources that claim the M235i is "boring/unstimulating to drive"? Can you elaborate?
at least 2 or 3 forum members have now driven the 2-series and so far all of them have said the car feels soft with poor steering and lacks excitement.

From my experiences, that sounds exactly like the F30 3-series....totally boring.

i don't really care...as long as they don't screw up the M2.
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pretty terrible that the M235 is going to be 'xdrive'.......this car is a watered down mess! All the early reviews are suggesting it is boring/unstimulating to drive...and now Xdrive!?? hardly a FUN RWD Coupe like everyone was expecting....

hope the M2 isn't xdrive too.....LOL
Lol clearly you no nothing about xDrive, it is awesome and can only add to the possibilities of what this car can offer.
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Email from BMW.ca: "In 2014, BMW is redefining the game with the release of the BMW 2 Series Coupé. This rebellious addition to the BMW lineup features unparalleled performance and an athletic design that includes a redesigned and luxurious interior. The 2 Series pays homage to its quintessential BMW sports coupé predecessors from the 1960s and 70s, and features an agile lightweight frame. BMW M235i's pièce de résistance is its 322 hp engine with 6-speed automatic transmission, capable of accelerating from 0 to 100 km/h in just 4.8 seconds, with optional xDrive® and variable sport steering."
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      12-22-2013, 01:45 PM   #13
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pretty terrible that the M235 is going to be 'xdrive'.......this car is a watered down mess! All the early reviews are suggesting it is boring/unstimulating to drive...and now Xdrive!?? hardly a FUN RWD Coupe like everyone was expecting....

hope the M2 isn't xdrive too.....LOL
From what I've seen those were pre-production testers being driven, hardly a sound basis for making a call on the production car's driving characteristics.
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      12-22-2013, 01:54 PM   #14
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I only remember the one guy driving a 228 in Germany but no other reviews, I'd like to read them if someone can produce one for the M235.
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      12-22-2013, 02:52 PM   #15
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at least 2 or 3 forum members have now driven the 2-series and so far all of them have said the car feels soft with poor steering and lacks excitement.
Dubious, to say the least, I'll wait until I can make my own call by driving a M235i, not the 228.
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      12-22-2013, 06:00 PM   #16
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Email from BMW.ca: "In 2014, BMW is redefining the game with the release of the BMW 2 Series Coupé. This rebellious addition to the BMW lineup features unparalleled performance and an athletic design that includes a redesigned and luxurious interior. The 2 Series pays homage to its quintessential BMW sports coupé predecessors from the 1960s and 70s, and features an agile lightweight frame. BMW M235i's pièce de résistance is its 322 hp engine with 6-speed automatic transmission, capable of accelerating from 0 to 100 km/h in just 4.8 seconds, with optional xDrive® and variable sport steering."
I got that email too. I was surprised at the 6-speed automatic transmission statement. I would have figured it would have been the same 8AT seen on the 3series.
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Email from BMW.ca: "In 2014, BMW is redefining the game with the release of the BMW 2 Series Coupé. This rebellious addition to the BMW lineup features unparalleled performance and an athletic design that includes a redesigned and luxurious interior. The 2 Series pays homage to its quintessential BMW sports coupé predecessors from the 1960s and 70s, and features an agile lightweight frame. BMW M235i's pièce de résistance is its 322 hp engine with 6-speed automatic transmission, capable of accelerating from 0 to 100 km/h in just 4.8 seconds, with optional xDrive® and variable sport steering."
Something is wrong with this, even though it came form BMW. There is no 6 AT and the 4.8s 0-100km/h is for the RWD. The AWD should be quicker.
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Something is wrong with this, even though it came form BMW. There is no 6 AT and the 4.8s 0-100km/h is for the RWD. The AWD should be quicker.
It's really an 8 spd auto tranny. They're just using a default Canadian exchange rate.
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Something is wrong with this, even though it came form BMW. There is no 6 AT and the 4.8s 0-100km/h is for the RWD. The AWD should be quicker.
I think there comma is there to separate the xDrive from the previous portion of the sentence.
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It's really an 8 spd auto tranny. They're just using a default Canadian exchange rate.
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I think there comma is there to separate the xDrive from the previous portion of the sentence.
Sorry, I completely missed that!
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Here we go got the document, xdrive and 6 speed manual share from M3/M4 mentioned!
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Here we go got the document, xdrive and 6 speed manual share from M3/M4 mentioned!
Thanks for posting that up.
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