wtf? pulleys for e92 M3 but not for 335

335iheLLraiseR · 10-14-2007, 10:43 PM

why are these available for the M3 which has been just released, but not the 335?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UNDER...spagenameZWDVW

sambonator · 10-14-2007, 10:52 PM

Maybe because there is no pulley to the water pump on the 335, which is an electric water pump.

335iheLLraiseR · 10-14-2007, 10:52 PM

might be......

Jonmartin · 10-14-2007, 11:09 PM

who would buy a part for their new sports car on ebay.lol wow.

335iheLLraiseR · 10-14-2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonmartin

who would buy a part for their new sports car on ebay.lol wow.

luv the addition to the sig. Has a nice ring to it.

But i got my M-sport steering wheel from ebay.
oh, and uh....there are always a few juice Boxes for sale.

Jonmartin · 10-14-2007, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 335iheLLraiseR

luv the addition to the sig. Has a nice ring to it.

But i got my M-sport steering wheel from ebay.
oh, and uh....there are always a few juice Boxes for sale.

LOL thanks.Ya but thats an OEM accessory who makes that pulley? And a part for your new $20K motor I dunno about that.

T Bone · 10-14-2007, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonmartin

LOL thanks.Ya but thats an OEM accessory who makes that pulley? And a part for your new $20K motor I dunno about that.

It would be good if some Chinese company made it.... $99 is a deal.

I paid $700 for the Evosport pulley in my M6....total rip off but hey, I have that monster to feed.

335iheLLraiseR · 10-15-2007, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonmartin

LOL thanks.Ya but thats an OEM accessory who makes that pulley? And a part for your new $20K motor I dunno about that.

its just quick man, c'mon the M3 was just released. how long have we waited for an intake?

Jonmartin · 10-15-2007, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 335iheLLraiseR

its just quick man, c'mon the M3 was just released. how long have we waited for an intake?

No I understand I'm just saying theres really not much info to back it up.I'm not sure if I'd take the claim of "gains 30+hp" from an eBay product you see?

335iheLLraiseR · 10-15-2007, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonmartin

No I understand I'm just saying theres really not much info to back it up.I'm not sure if I'd take the claim of "gains 30+hp" from an eBay product you see?

i think the 0 in that number is

lol.....

zenmaster · 10-15-2007, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sambonator

Maybe because there is no pulley to the water pump on the 335, which is an electric water pump.

A water pump should not be the only device to make use of a pulley on this car. Also, these pulleys are made for turning the accessories slower - A/C, power steering, and alternator. Water pumps would be bad to turn slower.

1clean335i · 10-15-2007, 09:01 AM

I wouldnt put an ebay pulley on a $60k+ car....

Excellence · 10-15-2007, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 1clean335i

I wouldnt put an ebay pulley on a $60k+ car....

Amen.

T Bone · 10-15-2007, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 1clean335i

I wouldnt put an ebay pulley on a $60k+ car....

Come on this is snobbery.... This is the reason why tuners gouge us for parts!

A pulley is just a piece of milled aluminum, no different for BMWs than Ford or GM. The Ford / GM guys pay $100 for their pulleys because this the market price.

I am sick of BS tuner companies exploiting BMW owners. Pulleys, Cams, Intakes for BMWs don't cost anymore to make than Japanese / American cars but because we "refuse" to use lower end parts, we take it up the Yazoo for parts.

Mr. 5 · 10-15-2007, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by T Bone

It would be good if some Chinese company made it.... $99 is a deal.

I paid $700 for the Evosport pulley in my M6....total rip off but hey, I have that monster to feed.

I never understood Evosport's prices...especially with the pullies.
I got my e46 M3 pullies for 160 while evosport was selling them for $340.

Mr. 5 · 10-15-2007, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by T Bone

Come on this is snobbery.... This is the reason why tuners gouge us for parts!

A pulley is just a piece of milled aluminum, no different for BMWs than Ford or GM. The Ford / GM guys pay $100 for their pulleys because this the market price.

I am sick of BS tuner companies exploiting BMW owners. Pulleys, Cams, Intakes for BMWs don't cost anymore to make than Japanese / American cars but because we "refuse" to use lower end parts, we take it up the Yazoo for parts.

True. Once people start realizing this Terry's going to make a killing.

Ryan(e92) · 10-15-2007, 12:54 PM

The people at evsport are horrribly unprofessional, incompetant, AND arrogant. F them.

Mr. 5 · 10-15-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan(e92)

The people at evsport are horrribly unprofessional, incompetant, AND arrogant. F them.

Wow, I haven't had that bad of an experience.
I just think their prices are way too high.

itsbrokeagain · 10-15-2007, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by zenmaster

A water pump should not be the only device to make use of a pulley on this car. Also, these pulleys are made for turning the accessories slower - A/C, power steering, and alternator. Water pumps would be bad to turn slower.

Not all the time. Nissan Sentra Se-Rs needed oversize pulleys to slow the pump down at high rpm cuse it would cavitate, therefore stopping flow of coolant, which would cause the car to overhead. Slowing down the waterpump to a certain point is not always bad...it can take in more heat and do more work.

Power steering you can always slow down without issues. A/C..well you cant do anything with that because of the clutch mechanism on the front.

Mr. 5 · 10-15-2007, 06:18 PM

Pullies seem to always have a controversy attached to them anyway.

The obvious pro is making the engine more free to turn freeing more hp to the wheels.

The con argument is that there could be some serious damage to whatever components that are being underdriven. For example, some pulley companies underdrive the crankshaft pulley which can make the crankshaft turn at a faster acceleration possibly creating damage.

After all said, I've used them and I've had good results. I'll just figure that nobody has made them for the 335 yet for reliability reasons.

T Bone · 10-15-2007, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Pullies seem to always have a controversy attached to them anyway.

The obvious pro is making the engine more free to turn freeing more hp to the wheels.

The con argument is that there could be some serious damage to whatever components that are being underdriven. For example, some pulley companies underdrive the crankshaft pulley which can make the crankshaft turn at a faster acceleration possibly creating damage.

After all said, I've used them and I've had good results. I'll just figure that nobody has made them for the 335 yet for reliability reasons.

I think the benefit for the N54 motor will be limited. In addition to the electric water pump the other big drag accessories have clutches on them for WOT.

These optimizations have led people to believe BMW understates the power for the N54.

M3to335 · 10-15-2007, 06:29 PM

I can machine a pulley on the CNC lathe at work in about 3 minutes for free. Hmm, maybe worth trying?

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