PROcede V2 wideband O2 and speed limiter support

e.n335 · 10-12-2007, 04:15 PM

Hi Shiv,

I don't want to behave impatient, my question is only related to planning.

- When do you plan to activate speed sensor functionality ? It can be used to defend the speed limiter as well. Can't we use the old green wire loom for speed limiter functionality ?

- When will you start to support a standard 0-5V wideband O2 sensor ? I did the wiring today from the engine compartment to the cabin. What a PITA. I guess you will fine adjust AFR using this sensor, dedicated to the PROcede. IMO makes sence with FMIC, DP's or both mods.

BTW, congratulations to V2 !

Thank you for feedback.

Cheers
Eugen

Dustin Bramell · 10-12-2007, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.n335

Hi Shiv,

I don't want to behave impatient, my question is only related to planning.

- When do you plan to activate speed sensor functionality ? It can be used to defend the speed limiter as well. Can't we use the old green wire loom for speed limiter functionality ?

Cheers
Eugen

Wink.

e.n335 · 10-12-2007, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dustin@Vishnu

Wink.

PresaMat · 10-12-2007, 06:27 PM

/me suspects its already there... just wire it up and test

6Zylinder · 10-13-2007, 01:00 AM

Just need to know where to connect it...

stressdoc · 10-13-2007, 10:10 AM

Spill the beans. And let us know what the E93 is like at 170 / 280 Eugen.

e.n335 · 10-13-2007, 11:24 AM

Hi !

Now, nothing progresses until you do it and so I started my speed limiter journey today.

First I had a look at the V2.0.1 map to find any strings indicating that the PROcede uses code to deal with the road speed. I found such strings.

In Schneid's weapon thread

you see a cross reference where to find the speed signal for this function. The RDsport blackbox uses this wire. I rechecked with the BMW WDS, and it looked good to me.

It is the white/green wire pin #17 on the grey subconnector of the smaller ECU connector. I intercepted it using my spare loom, the old green loom which will be replaced when you upgrade to V2.

Thus defending the speed limiter needs a digital I/O there is not much choice. Digital I/O number 4 is the only available digital channel.

- I extracted the white/green wire of pin #17 of the grey subconnector of the smaller ECU connector and connected it to pin #4 ( digital input #4 ) of the black PROcede connector.

- I connected pin #9 ( digital output #4 ) of the black PROcede connector to pin #17 of the grey subconnector of the smaller ECU connector.

Done.

So far the car behaves normal, no side effects. Also no additional functionality in the PROcede Reader software.

I have to test now if the speed limiter is really defended with this solution.

I think I have a fair chance

.

If it works this will be applicable for PROcede V2 only !!!

Cheers
Eugen

e90AW335i · 10-13-2007, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.n335

Hi !

Now, nothing progresses until you do it and so I started my speed limiter journey today.

First I had a look at the V2.0.1 map to find any strings indicating that the PROcede uses code to deal with the road speed. I found such strings.

In Schneid's weapon thread

you see a cross reference where to find the speed signal for this function. The RDsport blackbox uses this wire. I rechecked with the BMW WDS, and it looked good to me.

It is the white/green wire pin #17 on the grey subconnector of the smaller ECU connector. I intercepted it using my spare loom, the old green loom which will be replaced when you upgrade to V2.

Thus defending the speed limiter needs a digital I/O there is not much choice. Digital I/O number 4 is the only available digital channel.

- I extracted the white/green wire of pin #17 of the grey subconnector of the smaller ECU connector and connected it to pin #4 ( digital input #4 ) of the black PROcede connector.

- I connected pin #9 ( digital output #4 ) of the black PROcede connector to pin #17 of the grey subconnector of the smaller ECU connector.

Done.

So far the car behaves normal, no side effects. Also no additional functionality in the PROcede Reader software.

I have to test now if the speed limiter is really defended with this solution.

I think I have a fair chance

.

If it works this will be applicable for PROcede V2 only !!!

Cheers
Eugen

Fubarsky · 10-13-2007, 11:57 AM

Geez Eugen, you are a man of action. Full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes! I can't wait to hear about your test run. You are an inspiration to those of us who are to stupid or lack motivation to figure this crap out.

Drive safe

M&M · 10-13-2007, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.n335

I have to test now if the speed limiter is really defended with this solution.

DEFENSE! is the best form of offence.

sflgator · 10-13-2007, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.n335

Hi !

Now, nothing progresses until you do it and so I started my speed limiter journey today.

First I had a look at the V2.0.1 map to find any strings indicating that the PROcede uses code to deal with the road speed. I found such strings.

In Schneid's weapon thread

you see a cross reference where to find the speed signal for this function. The RDsport blackbox uses this wire. I rechecked with the BMW WDS, and it looked good to me.

It is the white/green wire pin #17 on the grey subconnector of the smaller ECU connector. I intercepted it using my spare loom, the old green loom which will be replaced when you upgrade to V2.

Thus defending the speed limiter needs a digital I/O there is not much choice. Digital I/O number 4 is the only available digital channel.

- I extracted the white/green wire of pin #17 of the grey subconnector of the smaller ECU connector and connected it to pin #4 ( digital input #4 ) of the black PROcede connector.

- I connected pin #9 ( digital output #4 ) of the black PROcede connector to pin #17 of the grey subconnector of the smaller ECU connector.

Done.

So far the car behaves normal, no side effects. Also no additional functionality in the PROcede Reader software.

I have to test now if the speed limiter is really defended with this solution.

I think I have a fair chance

.

If it works this will be applicable for PROcede V2 only !!!

Cheers
Eugen

Eugen,

1. Sorry, but I'm a bit confused...does the PROcede already have this extra wire (pin #9 ( digital output #4 ) of the black PROcede connector) attached; I thought Shiv had mentioned that he forgot to send all of us initial V2 customers the extra wire???

2. Let us know if your solution works!

Thank you.

scottp999 · 10-13-2007, 12:30 PM

Excellent work, let us know your testing results soon! Be safe!

e.n335 · 10-13-2007, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sflgator

Eugen,

1. Sorry, but I'm a bit confused...does the PROcede already have this extra wire (pin #9 ( digital output #4 ) of the black PROcede connector) attached; I thought Shiv had mentioned that he forgot to send all of us initial V2 customers the extra wire???

2. Let us know if your solution works!

Thank you.

1. When you install PROcede V2 you have to exchange the green loom. So you will have an extra loom to wire the road speed signal. The only wire missing now is one additional wire for the bypass plugs.

2. Sure

- Eugen

PresaMat · 10-13-2007, 02:42 PM

Eugen it works... its been tested

. PM me if u need info.

cgillio · 10-13-2007, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.n335

1. When you install PROcede V2 you have to exchange the green loom. So you will have an extra loom to wire the road speed signal. The only wire missing now is one additional wire for the bypass plugs.

2. Sure

- Eugen

Would we need the extra wire in the bypass plugs if we wanted to take out the procede and run with the plugs?

schneid4323 · 10-13-2007, 02:49 PM

Wow shiv actually switched the input and output on me. What goes into 3 now?

e.n335 · 10-13-2007, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgillio

Would we need the extra wire in the bypass plugs if we wanted to take out the procede and run with the plugs?

Yes

e.n335 · 10-13-2007, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schneid4323

Wow shiv actually switched the input and output on me. What goes into 3 now?

Boost. U can be sure it was not because of you.

hool97 · 10-13-2007, 04:32 PM

Nice thread!, thanks.

stressdoc · 10-13-2007, 04:42 PM

Play it safe and take a trip to Germany for your speed run.

schneid4323 · 10-13-2007, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.n335

Boost. U can be sure it was not because of you.

Im not, but I wonder what it would have done if I wired it up wrong.

stressdoc · 10-13-2007, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schneid4323

Im not, but I wonder what it would have done if I wired it up wrong.

This is why we work with straight talk here on E90post, letting everyone know what we know and don't know, and not playing cat&mouse.

10-12-2007, 04:15 PM	#1
e.n335 Moderator 270 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	PROcede V2 wideband O2 and speed limiter support Hi Shiv, I don't want to behave impatient, my question is only related to planning. - When do you plan to activate speed sensor functionality ? It can be used to defend the speed limiter as well. Can't we use the old green wire loom for speed limiter functionality ? - When will you start to support a standard 0-5V wideband O2 sensor ? I did the wiring today from the engine compartment to the cabin. What a PITA. I guess you will fine adjust AFR using this sensor, dedicated to the PROcede. IMO makes sence with FMIC, DP's or both mods. BTW, congratulations to V2 ! Thank you for feedback. Cheers Eugen
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e.n335 Moderator 270 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	PROcede V2, the 335i's speed limiter and me Hi ! Now, nothing progresses until you do it and so I started my speed limiter journey today. First I had a look at the V2.0.1 map to find any strings indicating that the PROcede uses code to deal with the road speed. I found such strings. In Schneid's weapon thread you see a cross reference where to find the speed signal for this function. The RDsport blackbox uses this wire. I rechecked with the BMW WDS, and it looked good to me. It is the white/green wire pin #17 on the grey subconnector of the smaller ECU connector. I intercepted it using my spare loom, the old green loom which will be replaced when you upgrade to V2. Thus defending the speed limiter needs a digital I/O there is not much choice. Digital I/O number 4 is the only available digital channel. - I extracted the white/green wire of pin #17 of the grey subconnector of the smaller ECU connector and connected it to pin #4 ( digital input #4 ) of the black PROcede connector. - I connected pin #9 ( digital output #4 ) of the black PROcede connector to pin #17 of the grey subconnector of the smaller ECU connector. Done. So far the car behaves normal, no side effects. Also no additional functionality in the PROcede Reader software. I have to test now if the speed limiter is really defended with this solution. I think I have a fair chance . If it works this will be applicable for PROcede V2 only !!! Cheers Eugen Last edited by e.n335; 10-13-2007 at 11:43 AM..
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