What a difference

jfong425 · 09-10-2013, 07:29 PM

I drive a 2011 335i as a daily. I brought my car into get serviced and got a 2013 328i. What a major step down. It feels like I'm driving a corolla (no offense if you love corolla's).

The steering wheel is loose and has no pep. Anyone else feel this way?

Dozhdbog · 09-10-2013, 07:32 PM

2013 328 isn't the beast a 335i is, but it's definitely zippier than an e90 328. Steering is precise but with very muted feedback. Seats are way more comfortable, and has more that comes standard than a base e90.

All in all, it's a step up in many ways, but it does have its drawbacks.

pgaplayerless · 09-10-2013, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dozhdbog

2013 328 isn't the beast a 335i is, but it's definitely zippier than an e90 328. Steering is precise but with very muted feedback. Seats are way more comfortable, and has more that comes standard than a base e90.

All in all, it's a step up in many ways, but it does have its drawbacks.

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Dozhdbog · 09-10-2013, 07:37 PM

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It happens every year. Almost as bad as tuition rate hikes.

AndreyT · 09-10-2013, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jfong425

...I brought my car into get serviced and got a 2013 328i. What a major step down. It feels like I'm driving a corolla (no offense if you love corolla's)...

What about those who love 328i? Any offence intended?

jfong425 · 09-10-2013, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AndreyT

What about those who love 328i? Any offence intended?

None, sorry. Just me being a brat.

mythek · 09-10-2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jfong425

I drive a 2011 335i as a daily. I brought my car into get serviced and got a 2013 328i. What a major step down. It feels like I'm driving a corolla (no offense if you love corolla's).

The steering wheel is loose and has no pep. Anyone else feel this way?

I'd say you borrow a corolla from someone you know for a week, then when you get your 328 back, you will appreciate it more? :P

Dark_Knight_335 · 09-10-2013, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jfong425

I drive a 2011 335i as a daily. I brought my car into get serviced and got a 2013 328i. What a major step down. It feels like I'm driving a corolla (no offense if you love corolla's).

The steering wheel is loose and has no pep. Anyone else feel this way?

I'd say you borrow a corolla from someone you know for a week, then when you get your 328 back, you will appreciate it more? :P

Yeah tell me about it...
You're talking to somebody who was driving the lowest model Ford focus for nearly 2 weeks from an enterprise Rent-A-Car due to my ride being repaired from a little boo-boo- best way to fall in love with your car all over again!

fw_fw · 09-10-2013, 07:50 PM

My 2011 328i E90 was in for some warranty work last week and I was given 2013 328i loaners. I'll keep my E90 328i over a F30 328i: steering and handling feel, AWFUL engine sound at idle (sounds like a TDI), terrible fuel saving engine restart from stops. It also felt too big for my taste both in how it drove and in terms of interior room.

NemesisX · 09-10-2013, 08:04 PM

I mean personally I would rather get one of the 3.5L 300HP competitor cars over a 328i (G37, IS350, C350) but that's only because I enjoy having the extra power even though I don't regularly take advantage of it. The last part seems paradoxical at first glance, but it's very pleasurable for me to depress the pedal 1/10 of the way down to cruise at 60 or 70 MPH versus 1/4 or 1/3 of the way down as I would have to do with a 328.

Also, the fact that a G37/IS350 cost pretty much the same as a 328i is a huge bonus as well (the C350 is more in line with the 335i IIRC).

jfong425 · 09-10-2013, 08:13 PM

That is true… I was being a bit harsh and bias. But I'm stating it based off the fact these are BMWs.

nanceman · 09-10-2013, 08:18 PM

Having spent some time now with a F30 328i base, 328i sportline, and 335i sportline (all x-drive 8AT... it's Michigan, people here forget everyone bought RWD for decades), I can say beyond the shadow of a doubt that the 328i sportline to 328i base is perhaps the largest feeling trim difference of any car I've ever driven.

For a daily (I've got my 335is 6MT for fun), the 328i sportline with a 6MT and RWD I could see being extremely fun and a great all arounder. Granted, anywhere near 6-7/10ths you realize just how little feedback the steering has and it's unnerving at first, but the chassis is there. If I had one car I don't think I'd buy one, I'd want too much feedback out of that car, but as a second car it really does a fantastic job.

I take it you got a 328i base? Next time be sure to request a sportline if your dealer has one.

Frenk · 09-10-2013, 08:22 PM

I actually made a thread about 328xi vs Corolla. My Corolla indeed felt better than the 328xi i drove before. It's all about pedal sensitive. Now the 328xi I got fell way before than my old corolla. But yea I understand your point. The corolla is way less heavy, and it just really kick you at acceleration, while the 328 can't really do that at low RPM.

NemesisX · 09-10-2013, 09:58 PM

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Having spent some time now with a F30 328i base, 328i sportline, and 335i sportline (all x-drive 8AT... it's Michigan, people here forget everyone bought RWD for decades), I can say beyond the shadow of a doubt that the 328i sportline to 328i base is perhaps the largest feeling trim difference of any car I've ever driven.

For a daily (I've got my 335is 6MT for fun), the 328i sportline with a 6MT and RWD I could see being extremely fun and a great all arounder. Granted, anywhere near 6-7/10ths you realize just how little feedback the steering has and it's unnerving at first, but the chassis is there. If I had one car I don't think I'd buy one, I'd want too much feedback out of that car, but as a second car it really does a fantastic job.

I take it you got a 328i base? Next time be sure to request a sportline if your dealer has one.

Anyone else find the idea of a 328i daily driver and a 335is "fun car" to be hilarious

I don't engage in "daily driver culture" in general but from what I've seen the usual rationale to have a daily driver and a weekend car is because the weekend car is sufficiently different in some way (be it less practical, significantly more expensive (exotic), "track"-able, etc.).

P.S. I know you don't have a 328i as a daily and a 335is as a fun car. I'm just speaking hypothetically.

bimmerdavid · 09-10-2013, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NemesisX

Anyone else find the idea of a 328i daily driver and a 335is "fun car" to be hilarious

I don't engage in "daily driver culture" in general but from what I've seen the usual rationale to have a daily driver and a weekend car is because the weekend car is sufficiently different in some way (be it less practical, significantly more expensive (exotic), "track"-able, etc.).

P.S. I know you don't have a 328i as a daily and a 335is as a fun car. I'm just speaking hypothetically.

That's why my "daily driver" is a 95 Camry that get's over 100 miles per day on it and the 335i is the fun car!

914kid · 09-10-2013, 11:55 PM

The F30 328 feels like you are driving a tin sardine can. Cheap car and its no BMW IMO, handles like a camry.

NemesisX · 09-10-2013, 11:57 PM

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The F30 328 feels like you are driving a tin sardine can. Cheap car and its no BMW IMO, handles like a camry.

I think the F30 in general is touted as having vastly inferior driving dynamics compared to its predecessor. It's not really a "328" thing.

ef11 · 09-11-2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jfong425

I drive a 2011 335i as a daily. I brought my car into get serviced and got a 2013 328i. What a major step down. It feels like I'm driving a corolla (no offense if you love corolla's).

The steering wheel is loose and has no pep. Anyone else feel this way?

I hate the F30s...drive feels terrible.

I've decided to keep my car for 10 years or until it falls apart. So I guess I'll keep it for about 3 years.

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jfong425 New Member 3 Rep 21 Posts Drives: 2011 335i Alpine White Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0)	What a difference I drive a 2011 335i as a daily. I brought my car into get serviced and got a 2013 328i. What a major step down. It feels like I'm driving a corolla (no offense if you love corolla's). The steering wheel is loose and has no pep. Anyone else feel this way?
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Dozhdbog Lieutenant Colonel 86 Rep 1,849 Posts Drives: 2011 335i Sedan Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Hollywood iTrader: (0)	2013 328 isn't the beast a 335i is, but it's definitely zippier than an e90 328. Steering is precise but with very muted feedback. Seats are way more comfortable, and has more that comes standard than a base e90. All in all, it's a step up in many ways, but it does have its drawbacks. __________________ 2011 E90 / Premium Package / Stage 2 PPK / Performance Suspension
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fw_fw Freude am Fahren 108 Rep 278 Posts Drives: 18 X3 xDrive30i xLine Phytonic Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Alabama iTrader: (2)	My 2011 328i E90 was in for some warranty work last week and I was given 2013 328i loaners. I'll keep my E90 328i over a F30 328i: steering and handling feel, AWFUL engine sound at idle (sounds like a TDI), terrible fuel saving engine restart from stops. It also felt too big for my taste both in how it drove and in terms of interior room.
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NemesisX Captain 317 Rep 905 Posts Drives: '19 Infiniti Q60S Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TX iTrader: (0)	I mean personally I would rather get one of the 3.5L 300HP competitor cars over a 328i (G37, IS350, C350) but that's only because I enjoy having the extra power even though I don't regularly take advantage of it. The last part seems paradoxical at first glance, but it's very pleasurable for me to depress the pedal 1/10 of the way down to cruise at 60 or 70 MPH versus 1/4 or 1/3 of the way down as I would have to do with a 328. Also, the fact that a G37/IS350 cost pretty much the same as a 328i is a huge bonus as well (the C350 is more in line with the 335i IIRC).
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jfong425 New Member 3 Rep 21 Posts Drives: 2011 335i Alpine White Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0)	That is true… I was being a bit harsh and bias. But I'm stating it based off the fact these are BMWs.
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nanceman First Lieutenant 91 Rep 346 Posts Drives: 11 335is 6MT, 15 GTI 6MT Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Metro Detroit iTrader: (0)	Having spent some time now with a F30 328i base, 328i sportline, and 335i sportline (all x-drive 8AT... it's Michigan, people here forget everyone bought RWD for decades), I can say beyond the shadow of a doubt that the 328i sportline to 328i base is perhaps the largest feeling trim difference of any car I've ever driven. For a daily (I've got my 335is 6MT for fun), the 328i sportline with a 6MT and RWD I could see being extremely fun and a great all arounder. Granted, anywhere near 6-7/10ths you realize just how little feedback the steering has and it's unnerving at first, but the chassis is there. If I had one car I don't think I'd buy one, I'd want too much feedback out of that car, but as a second car it really does a fantastic job. I take it you got a 328i base? Next time be sure to request a sportline if your dealer has one.
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Frenk Captain 33 Rep 655 Posts Drives: e92 328i X-Drive M-Sport Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Québec iTrader: (0)	I actually made a thread about 328xi vs Corolla. My Corolla indeed felt better than the 328xi i drove before. It's all about pedal sensitive. Now the 328xi I got fell way before than my old corolla. But yea I understand your point. The corolla is way less heavy, and it just really kick you at acceleration, while the 328 can't really do that at low RPM.
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914kid Banned 25 Rep 363 Posts Drives: E90 335xi Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Pelham, NY iTrader: (1)	The F30 328 feels like you are driving a tin sardine can. Cheap car and its no BMW IMO, handles like a camry.
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