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      08-14-2013, 12:52 AM   #1
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Coding auto start stop off notification on 2012 F30s

So I noticed that the 2012 F30s don't seem to have this feature even if you received the latest dealer software update.

Just now, I changed the build date on my VO to 0712, VO coded KOMBI and it all works! When auto start stop is not running, I get a notification on my instrument cluster just like on the 2013 models!


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So I noticed that the 2012 F30s don't seem to have this feature even if you received the latest dealer software update.

Just now, I changed the build date on my VO to 0712, VO coded KOMBI and it all works! When auto start stop is not running, I get a notification on my instrument cluster just like on the 2013 models!

If you want, you can VO Code Kombi with normal build date, then read Kombi ECU, and then go into E-Sys CAF Folder (e.g. C:\ESysData\CAF), and copy the Kombi CAFD .NCD file to your desktop, and then rename it.

Then change your VO date to 0712, and repeat the full process, and then send me both .NCD files.

I can compare them and tell you what FDL Coding changed to enable the ASS indicator, so then it can just be FDL Coded.
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If you want, you can VO Code Kombi with normal build date, then read Kombi ECU, and then go into E-Sys CAF Folder (e.g. C:\ESysData\CAF), and copy the Kombi CAFD .NCD file to your desktop, and then rename it.

Then change your VO date to 0712, and repeat the full process, and then send me both .NCD files.

I can compare them and tell you what FDL Coding changed to enable the ASS indicator, so then it can just be FDL Coded.
Sure! I'll do that next time I connect to my car.
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      08-15-2013, 10:37 PM   #4
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This is a nice feature as the ASS light is blocked by the wiper stalk on F30
I didn't even know that light turns on when it's not on lol
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      08-28-2013, 12:58 PM   #5
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hmm.. any updates on this?
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      08-28-2013, 04:01 PM   #6
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hmm.. any updates on this?
I am still waiting on the Before and After .NCD files...
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I am still waiting on the Before and After .NCD files...
Sorry it took so long but I have the before and after .NCD files now and I sent you a PM.
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Sorry it took so long but I have the before and after .NCD files now and I sent you a PM.
Ok, I have the .NCD files, but you renamed them. I need to know the name of the original CAFD file, else I can't open them in the FDL_Editor.
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Ok, I have the .NCD files, but you renamed them. I need to know the name of the original CAFD file, else I can't open them in the FDL_Editor.
I gave up waiting for the original CAFD file names, and did it the long hard way, which involved decrypting 1664 CAFD Files, than Parsing your "before" and "after" VO Coding .NCD files against them, only to discover that your "before" file isn't Kombi afterall, rather it is your HU_CIC .ncd file:

Name:  Kombi ASS Compare.png
Views: 7337
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Please send the before and after Kombi .NCD Files, with the ONLY change made between the two states being the VO Production Date (No other VO Changes nor FDL Codings).
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Any updates on how we can FDL code this?
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Any updates on how we can FDL code this?
No. It has been almost 5 months now, and I still do not have the .ncd files to examine, and the FDL setting is not obvious just examining the CAFD.
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No. It has been almost 5 months now, and I still do not have the .ncd files to examine, and the FDL setting is not obvious just examining the CAFD.
Sorry Shawn. It's been really cold outside lately and these winters are really brutal!

I'll remember to get the .ncd files next time I connect to my car. On top of that, my KOMBI most connector is not plugged in so that module isn't even communicating with E-sys.
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Sorry Shawn. It's been really cold outside lately and these winters are really brutal!

I'll remember to get the .ncd files next time I connect to my car.
Ok. I'll be here.
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Sorry Shawn. It's been really cold outside lately and these winters are really brutal!

I'll remember to get the .ncd files next time I connect to my car. On top of that, my KOMBI most connector is not plugged in so that module isn't even communicating with E-sys.
Thanks for the email with the files.

My guess after comparison and looking at the differences is that it is this FDL Code:

Kombi => MSA_VERFUEGBARANZEIGE_ENABLE = aktiv.

Please FDL Code this on and off to confirm.
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Thanks Shawn! It might be a few days before I get a chance to work on the car.

Can anyone else here with a 2012 F30 confirm and FDL code it?
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Thanks Shawn! It might be a few days before I get a chance to work on the car.

Can anyone else here with a 2012 F30 confirm and FDL code it?
I'll give it a go sometime in the next 24 hours.
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Thanks for the email with the files.

My guess after comparison and looking at the differences is that it is this FDL Code:

Kombi => MSA_VERFUEGBARANZEIGE_ENABLE = aktiv.

Please FDL Code this on and off to confirm.
I can confirm that this works on my 04/12 build without changing the build date in the FA.
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Thanks for confirming it.
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Thanks great work guys
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Thanks great work guys
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I can confirm that this works on my 04/12 build without changing the build date in the FA.
I don't think i have ever seen the ASS Off notification. My F31 is a 09/13 build.

MSA_VERFUEGBARANZEIGE_ENABLE is currently aktiv.

I did code TCM_MSA_DEFAULT_OFF to aktiv. This is supposed to disable ASS on every startup. Perhaps this affected the ASS Off notification?
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I don't think i have ever seen the ASS Off notification. My F31 is a 09/13 build.

MSA_VERFUEGBARANZEIGE_ENABLE is currently aktiv.

I did code TCM_MSA_DEFAULT_OFF to aktiv. This is supposed to disable ASS on every startup. Perhaps this affected the ASS Off notification?
If the ASS light is on (ASS disabled), then the "ASS off" icon will not show in the cluster.

In order to see it, you have to have ASS on, and then you have to be stopped and the car has to decide the ASS cannot be engaged (A/C needed, outside temp too low, trans in DS mode, etc).

I also have my car coded for "ASS default off" and I can get the icon to show by enabling ASS and then turning the A/C to MAX about 100 feet before I come to a stop.
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