Procede vs Stock 1/4 mile

vbmw335 · 10-03-2007, 11:27 AM

Just for those of you wondering whether or not to get the Procede see the differences in the timeslip below. Last week chitown335i (Vince) and myself did some ¼ mile runs at the great lakes dragway in Wisconsin. We were able to consistently get 12.8 on his procede AT 335i sedan with drag radials and 13.6 sec on my Stock, Sport pkg 335i AT coupe.

He was pulling at least 3 car lengths on me by the time we finished. Both had DTC off and DS mode on.

stressdoc · 10-03-2007, 11:42 AM

DRs seem to have made a big dif in 60' times.

sflgator · 10-03-2007, 12:29 PM

Nice times!

Vince@ V K Motorwerks · 10-03-2007, 01:06 PM

Yeah, the DR's definatly help. good times though, cant wait tell it drops down to 40 degree temps.

turbocoins · 10-03-2007, 01:10 PM

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Nice times!

+1 And congrats Gator on your package. I got an email today that its on the way. Maybe I won't sell after I get it!

sflgator · 10-03-2007, 01:18 PM

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+1 And congrats Gator on your package. I got an email today that its on the way. Maybe I won't sell after I get it!

LOL. Yeah, you may not want to; it's hard to give up one of the best bangs for your buck (not that it compares to the raw but posh driving experience of a Porsche TT

), but it's certainly not bad for a $50k car.

btw -- I'm still waiting for Shiv to post the v2.0 s/w & firmware updates online, so I can install. If he does it early by this evening, then I'll be installing tonight.

T Bone · 10-03-2007, 01:21 PM

Cool....

How much do you guys weigh?

While the 60' and 1/4 mile times are impressive, the trap speed is not much different from your stock 335i.

Dr_Dirt · 10-03-2007, 01:23 PM

12.8s verses 13.6s sounds more like 8 car lengths to me

107.44 mph = 157.57 ft/sec = 15.75 ft/0.1sec
car = ~15ft length
basically every 10th of a sec = 1 car length

down4it · 10-03-2007, 01:26 PM

60' Times played a big role in that 12.8... He got a 1.8 60' which is great for a rear wheel drive car! I need to go get some drag radials soon, but its not like i have a raceway around here anymore to run it on... Damn California!!!

RedGT3 · 10-03-2007, 01:30 PM

I think the stock car can run about 13.3/13.4 with DR's. anyway good runs guys

Dr_Dirt · 10-03-2007, 01:39 PM

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I think the stock car can run about 13.3/13.4 with DR's. anyway good runs guys

I know 107.44 mph seems to be the norm for a Procede equipped car however it seems a little low for a 12.8s.
I'm surprised the trap speeds are not more like 112mph @ 12.8s, is the car shifting right then preventing a higher trap speed?

Dr_Dirt · 10-03-2007, 02:22 PM

I was just looking at the R&T road test summary to see what other cars can do a 12.8 1/4 mile, here is what I found...

Chevrolet Corvette Z51 (400hp) = 12.8 @ 112.5mph
Audi RS4 (420hp) = 12.8 @ 109.7mph
Ferrari 612 Scaglietti (532hp)?? = 12.8 @ 115.4mph
Shelby GT500 (500hp) = 12.8 @ 113.2mph
Mercedes S600 (510hp) = 12.8 @ 109.9mph

I was surprised to find that our cars are getting into Ferrari territory....
Imagine getting the jump on a Ferrari and hold him off until the 1/4 mile.

vbmw335 · 10-03-2007, 02:40 PM

170 lbs in the stock car and 190 lbs in the procede car. It did not look like 8 car lengths to me ...but i see your logic though. Also my launch (stock car) was just from a deadstop no revving to 1500 rpms stuff...just turned dsc off ,DS mode and punch and go.

vbmw335 · 10-03-2007, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr_Dirt

I know 107.44 mph seems to be the norm for a Procede equipped car however it seems a little low for a 12.8s.
I'm surprised the trap speeds are not more like 112mph @ 12.8s, is the car shifting right then preventing a higher trap speed?

Think Vince was in DS all the time...so yes you could be right.

Lee Rambler · 10-03-2007, 02:43 PM

trap speed is what you need to look at to take the driver and launch out of the equation. 2 1/2 mph increase isn't that great - certainly good, but not what I'd expect from "50-70hp" gains.

Evo8MRto335I · 10-03-2007, 02:50 PM

God review. It looks like the DR are making up well for the lack of traction

Dr_Dirt · 10-03-2007, 03:05 PM

Makes you wonder how much quicker/faster version 2 will be with that extra power above 6500rpms.

A418t81 · 10-03-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Rambler

trap speed is what you need to look at to take the driver and launch out of the equation. 2 1/2 mph increase isn't that great - certainly good, but not what I'd expect from "50-70hp" gains.

Drag radials with lowish air pressure and the fast 60' are probably lopping 2 mph off what the car would run otherwise, but with an obviously worse ET.

T Bone · 10-03-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by vbmw335

170 lbs in the stock car and 190 lbs in the procede car. It did not look like 8 car lengths to me ...but i see your logic though. Also my launch (stock car) was just from a deadstop no revving to 1500 rpms stuff...just turned dsc off ,DS mode and punch and go.

Launch as little impact on trapspeed....this is a truer indicator for HP than 1/4 mile times.

The stock 335i is strong if 107-108 is the norm for a Proceed car.

oddjob2021 · 10-03-2007, 03:21 PM

the stock's R/T was terrible too .7 more than yours. so if he lauched at the same time you did it would be a lot closer?

Vince@ V K Motorwerks · 10-03-2007, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr_Dirt

Makes you wonder how much quicker/faster version 2 will be with that extra power above 6500rpms.

+1 cant wait to get mine, then we can compair stock vs. V2 and DP's. Im still waiting on my Riss Racing DP's also.

Vince@ V K Motorwerks · 10-03-2007, 03:53 PM

I think you guys also have to look at where the car is at a given time, when your looking at the trap speed. at 13.6 seconds my car would be traveling much faster and the gap would be much larger. Correct me if im wrong.

10-03-2007, 11:27 AM	#1
vbmw335 Second Lieutenant 19 Rep 263 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Coupe Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: on the moon iTrader: (0)	Procede vs Stock 1/4 mile Just for those of you wondering whether or not to get the Procede see the differences in the timeslip below. Last week chitown335i (Vince) and myself did some ¼ mile runs at the great lakes dragway in Wisconsin. We were able to consistently get 12.8 on his procede AT 335i sedan with drag radials and 13.6 sec on my Stock, Sport pkg 335i AT coupe. He was pulling at least 3 car lengths on me by the time we finished. Both had DTC off and DS mode on. Attached Images __________________ 335i coupe Procede 700 HP EPL Tuned Porsche 911 Turbo E46 M3 SMG BMW X5 4.8 is
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Vince@ V K Motorwerks Lieutenant Colonel 148 Rep 1,738 Posts Drives: 01 Black 911 Turbo, 09 X5 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomingdale, IL iTrader: (0)	Yeah, the DR's definatly help. good times though, cant wait tell it drops down to 40 degree temps.
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T Bone Brigadier General 532 Rep 4,021 Posts Drives: 2008 335xi Coupe Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The land where we kill baby seals iTrader: (0)	Cool.... How much do you guys weigh? While the 60' and 1/4 mile times are impressive, the trap speed is not much different from your stock 335i. __________________ "Aerodynamics are for people who cannot build engines"......Enzo Ferrari
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10-03-2007, 01:23 PM	#8
Dr_Dirt Major 62 Rep 1,476 Posts Drives: E90 335i 6AT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DFW iTrader: (1)	12.8s verses 13.6s sounds more like 8 car lengths to me 107.44 mph = 157.57 ft/sec = 15.75 ft/0.1sec car = ~15ft length basically every 10th of a sec = 1 car length
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down4it Banned 63 Rep 1,743 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SoCal iTrader: (3)	60' Times played a big role in that 12.8... He got a 1.8 60' which is great for a rear wheel drive car! I need to go get some drag radials soon, but its not like i have a raceway around here anymore to run it on... Damn California!!!
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RedGT3 Major 76 Rep 1,253 Posts Drives: .2 GT3/M3cs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: FL iTrader: (3)	I think the stock car can run about 13.3/13.4 with DR's. anyway good runs guys
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Dr_Dirt Major 62 Rep 1,476 Posts Drives: E90 335i 6AT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DFW iTrader: (1)	I was just looking at the R&T road test summary to see what other cars can do a 12.8 1/4 mile, here is what I found... Chevrolet Corvette Z51 (400hp) = 12.8 @ 112.5mph Audi RS4 (420hp) = 12.8 @ 109.7mph Ferrari 612 Scaglietti (532hp)?? = 12.8 @ 115.4mph Shelby GT500 (500hp) = 12.8 @ 113.2mph Mercedes S600 (510hp) = 12.8 @ 109.9mph I was surprised to find that our cars are getting into Ferrari territory.... Imagine getting the jump on a Ferrari and hold him off until the 1/4 mile.
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vbmw335 Second Lieutenant 19 Rep 263 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Coupe Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: on the moon iTrader: (0)	170 lbs in the stock car and 190 lbs in the procede car. It did not look like 8 car lengths to me ...but i see your logic though. Also my launch (stock car) was just from a deadstop no revving to 1500 rpms stuff...just turned dsc off ,DS mode and punch and go. __________________ 335i coupe Procede 700 HP EPL Tuned Porsche 911 Turbo E46 M3 SMG BMW X5 4.8 is
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Lee Rambler Captain 17 Rep 605 Posts Drives: 07 e92 335 6mt, 04 e53 x5 4.4 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: PA iTrader: (0)	trap speed is what you need to look at to take the driver and launch out of the equation. 2 1/2 mph increase isn't that great - certainly good, but not what I'd expect from "50-70hp" gains.
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Evo8MRto335I Captain 40 Rep 983 Posts Drives: can't list them all Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson iTrader: (1)	God review. It looks like the DR are making up well for the lack of traction
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Dr_Dirt Major 62 Rep 1,476 Posts Drives: E90 335i 6AT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DFW iTrader: (1)	Makes you wonder how much quicker/faster version 2 will be with that extra power above 6500rpms.
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oddjob2021 ASR Turbos+LSD+Meth= :D 73 Rep 1,517 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: May 2007 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 E92 335i [0.00]	the stock's R/T was terrible too .7 more than yours. so if he lauched at the same time you did it would be a lot closer? __________________ 2007 335i Coupe Mods: Check the Garage
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Vince@ V K Motorwerks Lieutenant Colonel 148 Rep 1,738 Posts Drives: 01 Black 911 Turbo, 09 X5 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomingdale, IL iTrader: (0)	I think you guys also have to look at where the car is at a given time, when your looking at the trap speed. at 13.6 seconds my car would be traveling much faster and the gap would be much larger. Correct me if im wrong. Last edited by Vince@ V K Motorwerks; 10-03-2007 at 03:56 PM.. Reason: my r/t is going to be slow this is my second time on a drag strip ever!!!
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