ANY UPDATES FROM WAVETRAC LSD's OWNERS? *2013*

335iBoii · 06-30-2013, 05:47 PM

Hey,

Been doing a lot of searching on Quaife vs Wavetrac and everyone keeps going on and on about the Quaife's track record of being a reliable product.. But its been a year or so, and havent seen any new or updated threads about the Wavetrac..

Read a few threads about the clunking noise from the wavetrac but only one or two and wanted to see if that was a real concern or not.

Wavetrack Owners:
Was that just a install error?
Are you happy with the Wavetrac?
Any regrets?

Overall any updates on which would be the better option.. Quaife or Wavetrac

*Have 08 model so I would need the core exchange program with the Wavetrac or final drive option if going for the Quaife. And live in Canada where so driving conditions in snow are important.

Thanks for your time!

Bakeme521 · 06-30-2013, 05:55 PM

I have had my wavetrac for nearly 3 years and it has over 30k miles on it and has worked great. I have had zero problem with it and I love it. Well worth the money.

And the clunk you have read about happens with both the wavetrac and quaife. I had it when I first got the diff and it slowly started going away. I rarely hear it make the sound anymore at all.

335iBoii · 06-30-2013, 06:15 PM

Thanks for the quick reply!

I think its time to pull the trigger and get a wavetrac very soon as the only argument I heard against it was Quaife's Reliability and proven track record, but as you say you've now had the lsd for nearly 3 years and no problems..

Thats what I wanna hear

joec500 · 06-30-2013, 07:04 PM

I have had mine for about 8 months and 6,000 miles. Zero issues here. I think many of issues with the Wavetracs you see are stemmed by installation error.

robc1976 · 06-30-2013, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joec500

I have had mine for about 8 months and 6,000 miles. Zero issues here. I think many of issues with the Wavetracs you see are stemmed by installation error.

Totally agree! Mine has been a godsend to me and I abuse it!

335iBoii · 06-30-2013, 10:07 PM

did you guys need to get the install kit + core exchange program?? and if so how easy was the whole process?

Bakeme521 · 06-30-2013, 10:11 PM

Mine was bolted so I didn't need the install kit or core.

I abuse the hell out of mine as well, see below.

335iBoii · 06-30-2013, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bakeme521

Mine was bolted so I didn't need the install kit or core.

I abuse the hell out of mine as well, see below.

love your car, definitely done right!

Anyone on here need to get the install kit/core?

ashmostro · 07-01-2013, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bakeme521

And the clunk you have read about happens with both the wavetrac and quaife. I had it when I first got the diff and it slowly started going away. I rarely hear it make the sound anymore at all.

Fwiw, my quaife has never clunked.

I love the torque biasing action... It's like a poor man's active torque vectoring.

Killerfish2012 · 07-01-2013, 04:50 PM

Wavetrack for a year now, absolutely no issues. Awesome product. Install must be done with attention to detail.

335iBoii · 07-01-2013, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killerfish2012

Wavetrack for a year now, absolutely no issues. Awesome product. Install must be done with attention to detail.

did you need the instal kit/core option? Seems like with the install kit/core option its a pretty simple install and a regular mechanic can do the job..

loweredram · 07-01-2013, 06:18 PM

Wavetrac for 2 years and 20k and no problems at all and I don't baby the car. I heard about the clunk noise I never had it but I have an auto and was under the impression it occurred more with the MT. Great Mod right up there with a tune as far as most noticeable improvement . If I could recommend anything use motul gear oil recommended by wavetrac. I had redline 75/90 (no limited slip additive) in mine replaced it after 6k and put in Motul 300 and really noticed a difference a lot smoother and eaiser to control.

335iBoii · 07-01-2013, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loweredram

Wavetrac for 2 years and 20k and no problems at all and I don't baby the car. I heard about the clunk noise I never had it but I have an auto and was under the impression it occurred more with the MT. Great Mod right up there with a tune as far as most noticeable improvement . If I could recommend anything use motul gear oil recommended by wavetrac. I had redline 75/90 (no limited slip additive) in mine replaced it after 6k and put in Motul 300 and really noticed a difference a lot smoother and eaiser to control.

I just read a thread about Motul v300 power 5w-40.. Which gear oil did you get the 300 or competition?

dfjaws · 07-01-2013, 07:26 PM

I've only had my wavetrac for about 3 months/2000 miles but I love it. I bought mine as a complete unit from HP autowerkes. No issues at all.

335iBoii · 07-01-2013, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dfjaws

I've only had my wavetrac for about 3 months/2000 miles but I love it. I bought mine as a complete unit from HP autowerkes. No issues at all.

was the install simple as a complete unit??

robc1976 · 07-01-2013, 08:17 PM

Here is a DIY I made.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=806041

loweredram · 07-01-2013, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335iBoii

I just read a thread about Motul v300 power 5w-40.. Which gear oil did you get the 300 or competition?

The 300 75/90 synthetic . I never thought oils especially gear oil I would notice a difference but with this LSD I did.

335iBoii · 07-01-2013, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robc1976

Here is a DIY I made.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=806041

thanks for the post, much appreciated!

Just wanted to make sure, did you get the install kit + core exchange option??

That is what I will be ordering as I have an 08 and wanted to see how install goes for that.. Seems like a much easier install as the diff is already pre-installed into the rear differential assembly, so all you do is remove yours and install the new rear differential assembly. sounds pretty simple.

ilikebmxbikes · 07-01-2013, 09:35 PM

I have had a quaife 3.46 and a wavetrac in 3.08 both have been great no issues with either.

raceyBMW · 07-01-2013, 10:36 PM

I have had the Wavetrac it in my car for about a year now, multiple road track days, multiple drag strip days....and not a single hitch.

I did have a clunk at first, but it turned out to be loose diff mount bolts that worked loose after I installed it...use loctite! The LSD itself is completely quiet and has completely transformed the car on the track.

Oh and I used Redline 75w90NS fluid, no slip additives.

Killerfish2012 · 07-02-2013, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335iBoii

did you need the instal kit/core option? Seems like with the install kit/core option its a pretty simple install and a regular mechanic can do the job..

It should be, but there are so many other little parts that you need to change. Drive shaft seals, nut, and some bolts. Do a search on the parts numbers for these.

uniter · 07-02-2013, 10:41 AM

Well, to be the lone dissenter, I have had plenty of problems with my Wavetrac:
Both 'Axle Flanges' have popped out multiple times. Wavetrac was unresponsive in offering to rectify the situation via warranty means. It was difficult to secure access to an engineer to work through the issue.

Rick from DEFIV Fabrication ended up having to modify it so that they wouldn't pop out any more.

I do drive harder than most

06-30-2013, 05:47 PM	#1
335iBoii Take Off* 5 Rep 47 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: GTA iTrader: (0)	ANY UPDATES FROM WAVETRAC LSD's OWNERS? 2013 Hey, Been doing a lot of searching on Quaife vs Wavetrac and everyone keeps going on and on about the Quaife's track record of being a reliable product.. But its been a year or so, and havent seen any new or updated threads about the Wavetrac.. Read a few threads about the clunking noise from the wavetrac but only one or two and wanted to see if that was a real concern or not. Wavetrack Owners: Was that just a install error? Are you happy with the Wavetrac? Any regrets? Overall any updates on which would be the better option.. Quaife or Wavetrac Have 08 model so I would need the core exchange program with the Wavetrac or final drive option if going for the Quaife. And live in Canada where so driving conditions in snow* are important. Thanks for your time! __________________ JB4 G5 ISO, AR DP's, ER CP, Synapse BOV, AlpineMSS HID, BMS Oil Catch Can, BMS CDV... WISHLIST--> LSD
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

06-30-2013, 05:55 PM	#2
Bakeme521 Some say... 239 Rep 4,296 Posts Drives: Fresh Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Baton Rouge n NOLA iTrader: (12) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [8.24]	I have had my wavetrac for nearly 3 years and it has over 30k miles on it and has worked great. I have had zero problem with it and I love it. Well worth the money. And the clunk you have read about happens with both the wavetrac and quaife. I had it when I first got the diff and it slowly started going away. I rarely hear it make the sound anymore at all. __________________ I have exhaust and an intake...
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-30-2013, 06:15 PM	#3
335iBoii Take Off* 5 Rep 47 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: GTA iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the quick reply! I think its time to pull the trigger and get a wavetrac very soon as the only argument I heard against it was Quaife's Reliability and proven track record, but as you say you've now had the lsd for nearly 3 years and no problems.. Thats what I wanna hear __________________ JB4 G5 ISO, AR DP's, ER CP, Synapse BOV, AlpineMSS HID, BMS Oil Catch Can, BMS CDV... WISHLIST--> LSD
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-30-2013, 07:04 PM	#4
joec500 Brigadier General 125 Rep 3,004 Posts Drives: it has 4 wheels Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (10)	I have had mine for about 8 months and 6,000 miles. Zero issues here. I think many of issues with the Wavetracs you see are stemmed by installation error. __________________ 2007 E92 6MT SGM: MusicarNW Level 2, Procede Rev 2.5, FFTEC/Vishnu LPFP with Flexfuel Sensor and Flash, M3 Offset V701's, WaveTrac LSD, Michelin PSS, Downpipes, M3 Control Arms, TCKline D/A Suspension, LCI Tail lights, Lux AE's, ER Charge Pipe, DCI's, Mtech Front and Rear, M3 Sideskirts, HPF Stage 1 Clutch
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-30-2013, 10:07 PM	#6
335iBoii Take Off* 5 Rep 47 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: GTA iTrader: (0)	did you guys need to get the install kit + core exchange program?? and if so how easy was the whole process? __________________ JB4 G5 ISO, AR DP's, ER CP, Synapse BOV, AlpineMSS HID, BMS Oil Catch Can, BMS CDV... WISHLIST--> LSD
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-30-2013, 10:11 PM	#7
Bakeme521 Some say... 239 Rep 4,296 Posts Drives: Fresh Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Baton Rouge n NOLA iTrader: (12) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [8.24]	Mine was bolted so I didn't need the install kit or core. I abuse the hell out of mine as well, see below. __________________ I have exhaust and an intake...
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-01-2013, 04:50 PM	#10
Killerfish2012 Colonel 177 Rep 2,301 Posts Drives: E90 335I, E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Midwest iTrader: (9)	Wavetrack for a year now, absolutely no issues. Awesome product. Install must be done with attention to detail. __________________ '07 335I w/ Mods '13 X1 Stock '11 X3 K&N
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-01-2013, 06:18 PM	#12
loweredram Lieutenant 50 Rep 405 Posts Drives: 16 F80 M3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: ca iTrader: (2)	Wavetrac for 2 years and 20k and no problems at all and I don't baby the car. I heard about the clunk noise I never had it but I have an auto and was under the impression it occurred more with the MT. Great Mod right up there with a tune as far as most noticeable improvement . If I could recommend anything use motul gear oil recommended by wavetrac. I had redline 75/90 (no limited slip additive) in mine replaced it after 6k and put in Motul 300 and really noticed a difference a lot smoother and eaiser to control.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-01-2013, 07:26 PM	#14
dfjaws Lieutenant 58 Rep 535 Posts Drives: E90 M3 / E86 M Coupe Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Des Moines, IA iTrader: (5)	I've only had my wavetrac for about 3 months/2000 miles but I love it. I bought mine as a complete unit from HP autowerkes. No issues at all. __________________
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-01-2013, 08:17 PM	#16
robc1976 DIYER 614 Rep 5,521 Posts Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Illinois iTrader: (14)	Here is a DIY I made. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=806041 __________________ JB4 G5, Stage 3 LPFP, Stage 2 MOTIV PI, VM 6466 ST, Custom OCC W/ SS lines, ER FMIC, ER CP W/HKS BOV, M3 control arms, M3 guide rods, M3 upper links, M3 front & rear sway-bars, HPA rear toe arms, Wavetrac LSD, HPF Gen 2, DEFIV kit, KW clubsport, Delrin solid SF bushings, stoptech rotors, Rogue Tranny Mounts, 1M bumper, M3 CF hood, M3 fenders, M3 OEM sideskirts, Mtech rear bumper, CSL trunk, MORR VS8.2 rims 245/295
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-01-2013, 09:35 PM	#19
ilikebmxbikes Banned 1518 Rep 4,744 Posts Drives: S65 1M Clone & E92 M3 4.6L Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (42) Garage List '08/13 1M Clone 4.0L [10.00] '11 e92 M3 4.6L [10.00]	I have had a quaife 3.46 and a wavetrac in 3.08 both have been great no issues with either.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-01-2013, 10:36 PM	#20
raceyBMW king of the hills 92 Rep 2,915 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 w/ESS55, 2001 540i/6 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Arvada, CO iTrader: (1) Garage List 2001 BMW 540i/6 [8.17] 1994 530i [9.00] 2007 335i Coupe [8.37]	I have had the Wavetrac it in my car for about a year now, multiple road track days, multiple drag strip days....and not a single hitch. I did have a clunk at first, but it turned out to be loose diff mount bolts that worked loose after I installed it...use loctite! The LSD itself is completely quiet and has completely transformed the car on the track. Oh and I used Redline 75w90NS fluid, no slip additives.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-02-2013, 10:41 AM	#22
uniter Black on Black on Black. 38 Rep 532 Posts Drives: 335i/6mt Sport,Nav,Prem. Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New Hope, PA iTrader: (1)	Well, to be the lone dissenter, I have had plenty of problems with my Wavetrac: Both 'Axle Flanges' have popped out multiple times. Wavetrac was unresponsive in offering to rectify the situation via warranty means. It was difficult to secure access to an engineer to work through the issue. Rick from DEFIV Fabrication ended up having to modify it so that they wouldn't pop out any more. I do drive harder than most __________________ LEMANS BLUE M-TECH E92->PROCEDE REV3::BIEHNTUNE FLASH::ETS 7" FMIC::RACELAND DPS::OS GIKEN 1.5 WAY::DEFIV DIFF LOCKDOWN::DEFIV OCC::DEFIV INTAKE::RB PCV
	Appreciate 0 Quote