[pepsih]

Can someone help me out with a FRM3 Module.
Is it an Xenon module?
adaptive or not?
i cannot find the information nowhere
please help me.
the serial number is 6135 9224592 - 01

here is a pic of the module



thanks

[pweber]

I have got new info about this.
This FRM3 supports xenon, but not adaptive. For AHL you need MAX Brose.

[pepsih]

I'm telling you guys ******84 is the man, next time i go to poland i'll bring him a good Johnny walker
WIELKIE DZIEKI!
thanks a lot

[makkan00]

This is basic one for halogen headlights.
For ordinary xenon, you need xe.
For AHL xenon you need max version.

Both of them are for sale in sale thread.

[pepsih]

Originally Posted by makkan00

This is basic one for halogen headlights.
For ordinary xenon, you need xe.
For AHL xenon you need max version.

Both of them are for sale in sale thread.

So basically it's not the one for xenon ?

LoL so basically we have two very different opinions ;P

[pweber]

Originally Posted by makkan00

This is basic one for halogen headlights.
For ordinary xenon, you need xe.
For AHL xenon you need max version.

Both of them are for sale in sale thread.

Are you sure about this? I found information that you can code xenon when you have basic FRM3, so now I'm confused :/

[Atomicteal_M3]

uhhh, Not really sure about whats being said about the FRM3 Module but I can tell you that I own a early 07 335i E92 and upgraded from FRM2 to FRM3 for my LCI taillights and I still have the AHL option.

[makkan00]

Originally Posted by ******

Are you sure about this? I found information that you can code xenon when you have basic FRM3, so now I'm confused :/

Technically thats not correct. Basic frm3 will not allow you to work with bi-xenon. It may work on pre-lci xenon (as they have h7 as high beam).
Also the ballast will be getting wrong pwm, unless coded and corrected.
Whats the point of buying expensive xenons if you cannot afford proper frm especially if two of them are for sale on the forum.

[pweber]

I think pepsih already bought this module, that's why, right?

[pepsih]

Originally Posted by ******

I think pepsih already bought this module, that's why, right?

Actually not me but my brother bought it, he have a 06/05 built e90 325 xenon
with the frm1 he wanted to retrofit the frm2/3 and he had a good deal with the frm3. the add said FRM3 for xenon... ( viva allegro.pl.....)
so he jump on it, and after he received it he realize that.

[Kenti]

Originally Posted by makkan00

Technically thats not correct. Basic frm3 will not allow you to work with bi-xenon. It may work on pre-lci xenon (as they have h7 as high beam).

My car is Pre-lci, and it has Bi-xenon, along with the h7 bulb.

[makkan00]

Originally Posted by Kenti

My car is Pre-lci, and it has Bi-xenon, along with the h7 bulb.

I know that. My Point is that on pre-LCI you can have bi-xenon and set h7 as high beam as well.
You have more flexibility so even if you do not change the frm3 basic with xenon vo, it will work.
However technically thats not correct.
I see what ****** said. Since op's brother car is pre-lci so I assume he can get away with it.

[charles.soori]

i think you can have any frm and add xenon with vo would work but if its lci headlight then need frm3 for the highbeam shutter to work. I had the frm2 and lci headlight shutter didn't work but after changing to frm3 ahl highbeam shutter work but still in the process of figuring out the taillight as its throwing malfunction error and self leveling.

[makkan00]

Originally Posted by charles.soori

i think you can have any frm and add xenon with vo would work but if its lci headlight then need frm3 for the highbeam shutter to work. I had the frm2 and lci headlight shutter didn't work but after changing to frm3 ahl highbeam shutter work but still in the process of figuring out the taillight as its throwing malfunction error and self leveling.

Interesting. Is you car pre-LCI?
I have pre-lci and I found frm2 more flexible. As it can be tweaked to fire bi-xenon and lights with halogen H7.
Whereas frm3 can fire only bi-xenon and I guess pin number for shutter is different.
I have non-AHL and it could not work with frm3 and hence I am on Frm2.

[michbmw]

Originally Posted by makkan00

This is basic one for halogen headlights.
For ordinary xenon, you need xe.
For AHL xenon you need max version.

Both of them are for sale in sale thread.

This is actually not accurate, depends on where you live, in US there are only 2 options of FRM3 that come with the car (LCI anyway), I've never seen the third (XE).
There is the Max Brose option also shown as AHL on the label then there is the Basis version also shown as LED Basis.

Max Brose /AHL is what is needed for adaptive headlights if you want that option to work.
Basis version/LED Basis will work fine with xenon or halogen. If Xenon it can be done with coding and a little rewiring. I do not believe there is any way to make the adaptive functions work though, that'll be a future experiment

I'm working a DIY for US spec LCI Halogen to LCI Xenon non adaptive, once done i'll post it. There doesn't seem to be one with that specific info, all the threads out there are variants.

[michbmw]

Here is a picture of a E90 LCI Sedan's sales brochure in the US, only the two options. You must have more options in Europe

[makkan00]

Originally Posted by michbmw

This is actually not accurate, depends on where you live, in US there are only 2 options of FRM3 that come with the car (LCI anyway), I've never seen the third (XE).
There is the Max Brose option also shown as AHL on the label then there is the Basis version also shown as LED Basis.

Max Brose /AHL is what is needed for adaptive headlights if you want that option to work.
Basis version/LED Basis will work fine with xenon or halogen. If Xenon it can be done with coding and a little rewiring. I do not believe there is any way to make the adaptive functions work though, that'll be a future experiment

I'm working a DIY for US spec LCI Halogen to LCI Xenon non adaptive, once done i'll post it. There doesn't seem to be one with that specific info, all the threads out there are variants.

Well it all depends on what you do and how.
I have fitted Lci xenon on pre-lci car and on lci.
On Lci car I have even fitted simple frm (basic) and coded it for xenon. Worked like a charm but its not the oem method.

[michbmw]

Originally Posted by makkan00

Well it all depends on what you do and how.
I have fitted Lci xenon on pre-lci car and on lci.
On Lci car I have even fitted simple frm (basic) and coded it for xenon. Worked like a charm but its not the oem method.

agreed definitely not the oem method, i've never physically opened the AHL module versus the basic, i'm assuming they are different inside and it is not possible to code the basic version to control the adaptive lights (more then likely the electronics used for adaptive controls is missing). I'm pretty sure the only thing that can be done is use them as standard xenon's without adaptive control. In other words manually aim them and be done with it.
Currently in the process of finalizing everything for the manual aim method, all seems to work fine so far. in the future i may buy the leveling sensors and try retrofitting them in along with the wires needed to aim the headlights, worst case i'll need to buy the a new FRM 3 with AHL

[michbmw]

Originally Posted by makkan00

Well it all depends on what you do and how.
I have fitted Lci xenon on pre-lci car and on lci.
On Lci car I have even fitted simple frm (basic) and coded it for xenon. Worked like a charm but its not the oem method.

Out of curiosity what did you do with the 3 amber LED side marker on the LCI headlights... leave it unwired? wire it to the parking lights? or did you do the OEM thing and run wires back to the footwell module?

I appreciate any info on these, not sure what to do with them yet. oem wiring looks like it would have wires going from the headlight pin 7's to footwell module X14261 pin 50 for left hand and X14260 pin 8 for right hand

[makkan00]

Originally Posted by michbmw

agreed definitely not the oem method, i've never physically opened the AHL module versus the basic, i'm assuming they are different inside and it is not possible to code the basic version to control the adaptive lights (more then likely the electronics used for adaptive controls is missing). I'm pretty sure the only thing that can be done is use them as standard xenon's without adaptive control. In other words manually aim them and be done with it.
Currently in the process of finalizing everything for the manual aim method, all seems to work fine so far. in the future i may buy the leveling sensors and try retrofitting them in along with the wires needed to aim the headlights, worst case i'll need to buy the a new FRM 3 with AHL

Not referring to AHL.

Originally Posted by michbmw

Out of curiosity what did you do with the 3 amber LED side marker on the LCI headlights... leave it unwired? wire it to the parking lights? or did you do the OEM thing and run wires back to the footwell module?

I appreciate any info on these, not sure what to do with them yet. oem wiring looks like it would have wires going from the headlight pin 7's to footwell module X14261 pin 50 for left hand and X14260 pin 8 for right hand

I have wired them to parking lights.

[michbmw]

Well I just meant that the ahl and headlights that turn with the steering I believe are on the same version of foot well (max brose)

[michbmw]

Thanks for the picture, I do like them on with the angels like that, think I'm going to do the same