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      05-22-2013, 05:57 PM   #1
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Issues w/ Spacers????

Hey fellas, I have a vibration after my H&R springs and Macht Schnell spacers were installed. The vibration is at 85-90 MPH and not annoying, but it worries me. I took the car to my trusted confidant at Discount Tire and he looked at the spacers and said that it appeared like the spacers were heating up at a different time than the hubs/rotors were and causing the lugs to work themselves loose. When I say loose, I mean untorqued. He recommended taking the spacers off to determine if that is causing a problem. Any thoughts on this?
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      05-22-2013, 06:01 PM   #2
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what's the size of spacers ? Are they new or used ? Not all spacers are created equal, meaning the fitment may not be perfect between diff. manuf. I have heard Turner Motorsport's spacers have excellent fitment.
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      05-22-2013, 06:20 PM   #3
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Sorry, I should have been more specific, they are Macht Schnell 12mm in the front and 10mm in the rear and I purchased them brand new less than 1000 miles ago.
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You should remove the spacers and test to see if the vibration is still there, if no vibration, then it's not the spacers afterall. The process of elimination.

Also double check to make sure the HR springs are installed correctly, front & rear, I have seen errors been made by shop installing the springs in opposite ends.
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      05-23-2013, 12:38 PM   #5
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for vibration is it happening in the rear? spacer-wise we always recommend not going with 10 and at least 12 if a spacer is needed. reason is sometimes vibration occurs with a 10mm because the lip on the spacer that serves as the hub for the wheel is not as big as the one on the 12mm.
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      05-23-2013, 12:46 PM   #6
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So weezy your putting 12f/12r? I have a brand new set of the same spacers in the box unopened. 12f/10r.
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      05-23-2013, 12:48 PM   #7
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Perhaps some of the guys using spacers can also say if they have issues.
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      05-23-2013, 01:43 PM   #8
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I ran the "standard" 12f/10r combo and had no issues whatsoever on the OEM 20"s.
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I do have Macht Snell spacers. 10 mm front, 12 mm rear and don't have any issues.

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Same here... No problem.

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I ran the "standard" 12f/10r combo and had no issues whatsoever on the OEM 20"s.
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I run 10mm front and rear on the M6, no problems thru the mph spectrum.
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for vibration is it happening in the rear? spacer-wise we always recommend not going with 10 and at least 12 if a spacer is needed. reason is sometimes vibration occurs with a 10mm because the lip on the spacer that serves as the hub for the wheel is not as big as the one on the 12mm.
The vibration is above 85MPH.

I'm going to take them off and see if the vibration is still there, I will follow up after that's been done.

Thanks for all the replies!
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      06-28-2013, 12:43 PM   #13
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UPDATE: the issue turned out to be a balance problem on the rear tires. I had them rebalanced and the vibration is gone! They were only out by .25 oz on the right and .75 on the left, but once they were rebalanced, no more issues!

Thanks again for all of the responses and help, that's what makes this forum so great to be a part of!
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UPDATE: the issue turned out to be a balance problem on the rear tires. I had them rebalanced and the vibration is gone! They were only out by .25 oz on the right and .75 on the left, but once they were rebalanced, no more issues!

Thanks again for all of the responses and help, that's what makes this forum so great to be a part of!
Sorry to bring the old thread back, but I am experiencing the same issue with heavy vibration on the steering wheel around 85-90. Curious to why would rebalancing fix that problem? Maybe torque spec?
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Sorry to bring the old thread back, but I am experiencing the same issue with heavy vibration on the steering wheel around 85-90. Curious to why would rebalancing fix that problem? Maybe torque spec?
That's possible, but mine were torqued properly and still had the vibration. The rebalance (as odd as it sounds) fixed it.
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http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=717236

may be related to this ...

read from post # 7 onwards ... it comes down to the Road Force balance machine set value




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Sorry to bring the old thread back, but I am experiencing the same issue with heavy vibration on the steering wheel around 85-90. Curious to why would rebalancing fix that problem? Maybe torque spec?
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      08-25-2013, 07:14 PM   #17
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Mine was due an improper bolt not being tightened during hr install. I also had my wheels balanced and problem fixed.
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Running Macht Schnell 10mm-r and 12mm-f on my M6 with H&R and no issues whatsoever.
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I had to retorque the lug nuts in a star pattern and shaking went away. Learned something new from EAS guys.
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      08-25-2013, 07:56 PM   #20
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Running Macht Schnell 10mm-r and 12mm-f on my M6 with H&R and no issues whatsoever.
I have the same setup and felt that after installing spacers the car feels more confident in cornering.. Curious about your thoughts.
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      08-25-2013, 09:57 PM   #21
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Had spacers for a while now. No issues, though I want to get M6 GC wheels to maintain an aggressive offset w/o spacers. I have a 12/10 setup
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      08-26-2013, 08:17 AM   #22
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I have the same setup and felt that after installing spacers the car feels more confident in cornering.. Curious about your thoughts.
Yup. Plus I have the GC 433 wheels which already gave it a more aggressive stance. The car is firmly planted with the spacers.
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