[2GPP]

Came accross this in the latest BMW Car Magazine (www.bmwcarmagazine.com):

The 335i has quickly become the darling of the tuning world and Evolve Automotive has recently been appointed a UK distributor for Active Autowerke’s XEDE ECU upgrade. The XEDE Processor has been designed to work in conjunction with the standard ECU, adjusting the fuelling and ignition to deliver increased power and torque, along with improved throttle response, fuel economy and smoother acceleration. Boost is raised to 14psi up from the stock 8psi which results in a gain of 54bhp and a massive 85lb ft of torque, making the already rapid 335i indecently quick.

Active has tested the upgrade on its own 335is in manual and auto form and it results in no fault codes or engine problems and is easily fitted by a competent mechanic as well as being reversible. The XEDE upgrade costs £950 including VAT – log onto www.evolveyourcar.com or call 0870 0850 111 to find out more and see what other Active products are available.

Worth a look?

[dxb335d]

love it, think that will give yo guys 380 odd BHP, considering most are making 320-330 stock!!


Carlos

[E92Fan]

nooooooooo.... please don't start a procede/xede thread...! it's degenerated into the most pathetic slanging match over on the US forum (under 335i Engine Tuning)


Sorry, I'll be understanding for a bit... here's a very brief summary:


There are two ways of tuning the 335i petrol engine - 1) to reprogram the ECU, 2) to plug in an external tuning box to alter the boost and fuelling


For 1) - BMW have made the ECU incredibly difficult to hack, with some serious password protection going on. This is making it near-enough impossible for the likes of DMS Automotive (in the UK) and Dinan Tuning (in the US) to reprogram the ECU. These two companies in particular like to go down the reprogramming route because a) it doesn't involve hardwiring an external box in to the ECU chamber, and b) it is invisible to a BMW diagnostic machine, unless of course the technician is specifically delving in to the actual coding (which is highly unlikely), and c) you have access to the full range of ECU data and monitoring

For 2) - the good thing with Procede/Xede is that it works - figures of 380hp and 370lbft of torque are not uncommon. However, there's an extra box that sits in your engine, so any half-wit technician will be able to see it when it goes in for service. For sure you're not going to be uninstalling and reinstalling the box everytime you need to take your car in for service... or maybe you are, I don't know. Also, this box can only alter a few parameters of the ECU - and it can't take into account the constant data monitoring the ECU provides. The big problem though that people are finding in the States is that a lot of cars are suddenly going into limp mode (where the ECU half shuts down to protect the car). Limp mode is happening in cases where the ambient temperature is too hot, or there's too much humidity, or for none of those reasons at all and just because it throws a fault code in the ECU. What I'm trying to say is that it's not 100% reliable.

There is a Procede engineer (Shiv@Vishnu) who actually contributes to the US forum - by contribute, I mean he argues with every single member who says a bad word about Procede/Xede, and says that the ongoing software developments always fix the problems. But IMO that in itself is a problem - you're buying a box that constantly needs updating?? What's the point?!

I have personally been wanting to tweak the ECU of my car - but I'm waiting for DMS to crack the code. They will eventually do it - and when they do it will be reliable, as their history is pretty much impeccable to date and their testing regime is very thorough.

(Incidentally, the people behind Procede made their name by modifying Mitsubishi Evos... and quite a few of those engines didn't quite work for as long they planned...!!)



And breathe.....

[2GPP]

Hey Carlos,
What about this for your 335d (from same company)

BMW
Model : 3 Series E90 E91 E92
Variant : 335d
Original BHP : 286 BHP
Price : £695
Description :
Stage 1: ECU Remap +54 BHP +80nm Torque

Get your 0-60 time down a bit!

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by 2GPP

Hey Carlos,
What about this for your 335d (from same company)

BMW
Model : 3 Series E90 E91 E92
Variant : 335d
Original BHP : 286 BHP
Price : £695
Description :
Stage 1: ECU Remap +54 BHP +80nm Torque

Get your 0-60 time down a bit!

Hi there 2GPP, yes i am interested in a re-map for the 335d, its just finding the right company to do this for me

340bhp does sound good tho and the torque, not sure bout Newton metres but in IBS it should be approx 530!!! pretty impressive


E92FAN i think shiv has worked into the proceede an element of safety which cuts in long before the infamous ''limp home mode''

i have not heard of any US 335i with this modification going into ''LHM''

i know many UK 535d were going into ''LHM'' with a re-map but not heard of any 335d going into it as i believe the ECU is different!!

Carlos

[E92Fan]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Hi there 2GPP, yes i am interested in a re-map for the 335d, its just finding the right company to do this for me

340bhp does sound good tho and the torque, not sure bout Newton metres but in IBS it should be approx 530!!! pretty impressive


E92FAN i think shiv has worked into the proceede an element of safety which cuts in long before the infamous ''limp home mode''

i have not heard of any US 335i with this modification going into ''LHM''

i know many UK 535d were going into ''LHM'' with a re-map but not heard of any 335d going into it as i believe the ECU is different!!

Carlos

You should read the threads carefully again then buddy - several 335i PETROLS have gone into limp mode, and the guys have been resetting the ECUs everytime. The diesels are completely different to the petrol. Speak to DMS Automotive and see what they've got for the 335d. I think that you're right in the ECUs being different between the 535d and the 335d.

[vivekk]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Hi there 2GPP, yes i am interested in a re-map for the 335d, its just finding the right company to do this for me

340bhp does sound good tho and the torque, not sure bout Newton metres but in IBS it should be approx 530!!! pretty impressive


E92FAN i think shiv has worked into the proceede an element of safety which cuts in long before the infamous ''limp home mode''

i have not heard of any US 335i with this modification going into ''LHM''

i know many UK 535d were going into ''LHM'' with a re-map but not heard of any 335d going into it as i believe the ECU is different!!

Carlos

I could go into the argument of the fact that your car isn't US spec petrol, so how can you be so sure your UK diesel vehicle will 'work' similarly to the US Proceded ones, and also the fact that you haven't heard of any going into LHM doesn't necessarily mean it hasn't happened- there may be a lot of US Procede owners around, too embarrassed to say a word!

But I won't!

Viv

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by vivekk

I could go into the argument of the fact that your car isn't US spec petrol, so how can you be so sure your UK diesel vehicle will 'work' similarly to the US Proceded ones, and also the fact that you haven't heard of any going into LHM doesn't necessarily mean it hasn't happened- there may be a lot of US Procede owners around, too embarrassed to say a word!

But I won't!

Viv

your lacking two tubbys before you even start tuning

lotsa love

carlosisinlove

[E92Fan]

Originally Posted by vivekk

I could go into the argument of the fact that your car isn't US spec petrol, so how can you be so sure your UK diesel vehicle will 'work' similarly to the US Proceded ones, and also the fact that you haven't heard of any going into LHM doesn't necessarily mean it hasn't happened- there may be a lot of US Procede owners around, too embarrassed to say a word!

But I won't!

Viv

And Viv, we could also go into the technical argument of the differences in octane rating and burn efficiency between standard US and UK petrol (89-91RON vs 95RON)... and also the fact that US 335i petrols don't have a secondary oil cooler as standard... oh, and that petrol and diesel is different..

...but I won't either!

[vivekk]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

your lacking two tubbys before you even start tuning

lotsa love

carlosisinlove

Although I have no intention of tuning, I may have to bar you from UK4 anyway, Carlimpmode, just for being cheeky!

That's assuming your daddy's car does actually make it to the outskirts of Derbyshire!

Viv

[Hotcoupe]

Carlos, if you are really serious about a remap for your car,speak to DMS.
I had my current 330D remapped down Southampton way & I can't recommend the experience enough.
I know several people who have visited DMS, not just Beemer owners,several Merc owners I know used DMS & are equally delighted as I was.

My new 335D will be going to DMS a short while after I collect it (when it finally gets here!) and I know from experience,that the trip & cost will be well worth it.

The drive back will be a scream!

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by vivekk

Although I have no intention of tuning, I may have to bar you from UK4 anyway, Carlimpmode, just for being cheeky!

That's assuming your daddy's car does actually make it to the outskirts of Derbyshire!

Viv

it made it up there last weekend
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82844

Originally Posted by Hotcoupe

Carlos, if you are really serious about a remap for your car,speak to DMS.
I had my current 330D remapped down Southampton way & I can't recommend the experience enough.
I know several people who have visited DMS, not just Beemer owners,several Merc owners I know used DMS & are equally delighted as I was.

My new 335D will be going to DMS a short while after I collect it (when it finally gets here!) and I know from experience,that the trip & cost will be well worth it.

The drive back will be a scream!

i have also heard good things about CAA and i think there re-maps produce a little more power!

your 330d is she e46?

Carlos

[Hotcoupe]

your 330d is she e46?

Indeed,she is,quite a cracker too!

I can't comment on CAA, although I too have heard good reports,Peppernick had his 335D 'done' by CAA I believe.

[dxb335d]

so what power and torque do you have out of your 330d?

[squeezebm]

i've also heard that E-Maps are ok and the guy Simon was very helpfull on the phone

also heard that DMS had sold there 335i and just given up

[Steve A]

If Simon at emaps is aginger bloke from brummyland then hes the same bloke who does the CAA remaps. I can say that he is a top bloke.


Squeeze stop fucking around and get her remapped.........PPPPPUUUUUUSSSYY

[E92Fan]

Originally Posted by squeezebm

i've also heard that E-Maps are ok and the guy Simon was very helpfull on the phone

also heard that DMS had sold there 335i and just given up

Noooo... Oh. S*!T

[Steve A]

Originally Posted by squeezebm

also heard that DMS had sold there 335i and just given up

thats is correct.....they cant crack the ecu

either its a tuning box or standard tune from now on

[squeezebm]

Originally Posted by Steve Ashton

If Simon at emaps is aginger bloke from brummyland then hes the same bloke who does the CAA remaps. I can say that he is a top bloke.


Squeeze stop fucking around and get her remapped.........PPPPPUUUUUUSSSYY

Stevey,times are hard pal a grand for a re-map could break me

been told in no uncertain terms by my brief today that after my divorce goes thru' i should be happy if i've still got me pants on

have a heart bro' i'm on here to be cared for

[E92Fan]

Originally Posted by squeezebm

Stevey,times are hard pal a grand for a re-map could break me

been told in no uncertain terms by my brief today that after my divorce goes thru' i should be happy if i've still got me pants on

have a heart bro' i'm on here to be cared for

Jeez ur going through a parting of ways?! I better start introducing u to all those girls then...

[Steve A]

Originally Posted by squeezebm

Stevey,times are hard pal a grand for a re-map could break me

been told in no uncertain terms by my brief today that after my divorce goes thru' i should be happy if i've still got me pants on

have a heart bro' i'm on here to be cared for

im really sorry about your divorce.....if you get a remap you can run her over faster ( 500quid from caa) pussy

[squeezebm]

Originally Posted by E92Fan

Jeez ur going through a parting of ways?! I better start introducing u to all those girls then...

Mate, i'm off women (in a manly type of way of course) for a while