[e.n335]

Originally, when I ordered my e93 I thought it would be nice to have the PROcede just to compensate the additional weight compared to the e92. I have been sceptic about piggyback solutions and reliability issues.

5 months later:

I'm now at the end of breaking-in the engine ( I installed the PROcede at around 100 miles ) and drove to Germany this morning ( 50 miles distance from my home ) to test the upcoming new v1.4n map briefly and to see how the car behaves on the autobahn at higher speeds and cruising conditions as well. The test lasted about 4 hours.

Wow ! The car is fast, really fast. The power is distributed in a way where I don't see how it could be better. It seems to me that the engine temps are a bit lower than before. I tried to provoce getting the reduced half dark / half light power icon. No way. I tried to provoce the 1500-2500rpm studder. Again, no way. It is too early to say something definitely, but everything looks very good as of now. Next week I will go to a dealership again to have a look if the BMW service computer sees any issues recorded in the ECU with the new map. I don't expect so. And finally, if you like to drive economic, you get a very good gas milage.

Regardless what v2 will be, the PROcede v1 integration already works perfect for me.

Great job, Shiv ! Thank you.

Cheers
Eugen

[Ninjaneer]

You had me at "Autobahn"

[stefano7171]

Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter

Originally, when I ordered my e93 I thought it would be nice to have the PROcede just to compensate the additional weight compared to the e92. I have been sceptic about piggyback solutions and reliability issues.

5 months later:

I'm now at the end of breaking-in the engine ( I installed the PROcede at around 100 miles ) and drove to Germany this morning ( 50 miles distance from my home ) to test the upcoming new v1.4n map briefly and to see how the car behaves on the autobahn at higher speeds and cruising conditions as well. The test lasted about 4 hours.

Wow ! The car is fast, really fast. The power is distributed in a way where I don't see how it could be better. It seems to me that the engine temps are a bit lower than before. I tried to provoce getting the reduced half dark / half light power icon. No way. I tried to provoce the 1500-2500rpm studder. Again, no way. It is too early to say something definitely, but everything looks very good as of now. Next week I will go to a dealership again to have a look if the BMW service computer sees any issues recorded in the ECU with the new map. I don't expect so. And finally, if you like to drive economic, you get a very good gas milage.

Regardless what v2 will be, the PROcede v1 integration already works perfect for me.

Great job, Shiv ! Thank you.

Cheers
Eugen

Eugen, thanks for yet another fantastic report! looking forward to hear about BMW service "results" (i.e. if Procede leaves traces or not)....

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by stefano7171

Eugen, thanks for yet another fantastic report! looking forward to hear about BMW service "results" (i.e. if Procede leaves traces or not)....

Diagnostics are scheduled for tomorrow 10h00 GMT+1

[DrDomer]

Are Swiss BMW dealers just nice? Or you know someone who knows someone, etc? Meaning... how do you get your local dealer to check your car without them voiding your warranty? I don't care... I think it's awesome.. just curious. BTW... Is the map you have installed the new 1.45 for step?

[RiXst3r]

Originally Posted by DrDomer

Are Swiss BMW dealers just nice? Or you know someone who knows someone, etc? Meaning... how do you get your local dealer to check your car without them voiding your warranty? I don't care... I think it's awesome.. just curious. BTW... Is the map you have installed the new 1.45 for step?

he has a new map that has not been released yet... he was doing testing on it for shiv

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by DrDomer

Are Swiss BMW dealers just nice? Or you know someone who knows someone, etc? Meaning... how do you get your local dealer to check your car without them voiding your warranty? I don't care... I think it's awesome.. just curious. BTW... Is the map you have installed the new 1.45 for step?

All depends on your relationship to your dealership you might have built up in the past ( or not ). I don't know someome who knows someone who has a sister ... My dealership trusts me and I trust them. The map I'm testing is a new map ( not v2 ! ) and will be released soon. It is actually tested from a couple of people. Thus I have no problem to get access to the BMW service computer, I just double-check that there are no entries in the ECU you don't see with the Creader. I do this for me and for all of you having a PROcede, my contribution to the community.

[DrDomer]

Cool. Looking forward to the info and the new map. Hopefully v1.4n won't be released when v2 is released, unless that happens to be this week.

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by DrDomer

Cool. Looking forward to the info and the new map. Hopefully v1.4n won't be released when v2 is released, unless that happens to be this week.

Are you fine with having the map released in a couple of days ? I'm in close contact with a guy having the e92 ( manual ) and testing it in the heat of South Africa. He is happy with the new map as I am.

[DrDomer]

I'm definitely fine with that! Thanks for update.

[bnj]

It cannot be 1.4X since 1.5 is out already. And because it is > 1.5, I think it ought to be better than AA 1.5...

[bnj]

I see it is 1.47... Eugen, could you test v2 for us instead, please.,

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by bnj

I see it is 1.47... Eugen, could you test v2 for us instead, please.,

It's called v1.47 right now but I don't know what will be the final release number. When it comes to testing of v2, let's see what it is and if Shiv likes my testing support. I won't test it in case of the output numbers ( torque ) would be too high for my taste, not willing to become a victim of a tuner's battle

[Panoz]

I'm living in a really hot country (42 C currently). I'm willing to do the test if someone sends me the procede!!

[tsopanakos]

Originally Posted by Panoz

I'm living in a really hot country (42 C currently). I'm willing to do the test if someone sends me the procede!!

Traveling from London, I' will be in Athnes next Saturday with my car and the Procede.

PM, if you would like to see how the Procede behaves.

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by tsopanakos

Traveling from London, I' will be in Athnes next Saturday with my car and the Procede.

PM, if you would like to see how the Procede behaves.

And please show him how to install. Thank you. It's Panoz time now.

[tsopanakos]

Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter

And please show him how to install. Thank you. It's Panoz time now.

For Sure!!!.

It will be good for him to see also the serial wireless Bluetooth implementation with the remote on-off control.

[e.n335]

Hi

Have been at a dealership today. The map didn't cause any error entry in the ECU's memory.

However, there is one entry which says that the car is consuming too much current when it is shut off. I highly expect this is thus the PROcede is powered on all the time. Next week, when I will have holidays, I will proof this and if so, will provide a solution for this as a DIY.

Enjoy the new map !

Cheers
Eugen

[RiXst3r]

Eugen,

Was this the error you got also?

$error locationNr: 11757
$error locationtext: 2DED power management, standby current control
Error: 1(1) No.: 11757 2DED power management, standby current control frequency: 2
error type: 8 (4286 ) standby current violation
readines Flag: (16 ) Test conditions fulfilled
error status: (32 ) failure presently not available, OBDon-board diagnosis not debounced
MIL - Status: (48) failure does not cause warning lamp show light (MIL)
P-Code: P160F Powermanagement No-Load Current Error F_LZ: 40
ambient text / entry at 84xx km(2.) 84xx km(1.)
time with idle current 80 - 200 mA 0.00 min 3091.20 min
time with idle current 200 - 1000 mA 0.00 min 74.67 min
time with idle current larger than 1000 mA 0.00 min 0.00 min
voltage Kl. 87 0.00 V 11.98 V

[DrDomer]

So much for the Procede being transparent. Hopefully Shiv can find a solution for this. Is there any truth to taking off the Procede three days in advance of service so that code is cleared? Thanks for all the info Eugen... keep up the good work! Also, what other add-ons could cause this error?

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

Eugen,

Was this the error you got also?

$error locationNr: 11757
$error locationtext: 2DED power management, standby current control
Error: 1(1) No.: 11757 2DED power management, standby current control frequency: 2
error type: 8 (4286 ) standby current violation
readines Flag: (16 ) Test conditions fulfilled
error status: (32 ) failure presently not available, OBDon-board diagnosis not debounced
MIL - Status: (48) failure does not cause warning lamp show light (MIL)
P-Code: P160F Powermanagement No-Load Current Error F_LZ: 40
ambient text / entry at 84xx km(2.) 84xx km(1.)
time with idle current 80 - 200 mA 0.00 min 3091.20 min
time with idle current 200 - 1000 mA 0.00 min 74.67 min
time with idle current larger than 1000 mA 0.00 min 0.00 min
voltage Kl. 87 0.00 V 11.98 V

This is exactly the entry I'm talking about. Basicly every add-on / aftermarket device can cause such an error if it would consume power when the car is shut off. At this time I only have the PROcede. The fix will be easy, but I have to try first what I have in my mind. I think a quite good result has been achieved up to now, this last little issue is not a biggie.

Originally Posted by DrDomer

So much for the Procede being transparent. Hopefully Shiv can find a solution for this. Is there any truth to taking off the Procede three days in advance of service so that code is cleared? Thanks for all the info Eugen... keep up the good work! Also, what other add-ons could cause this error?

Dr, I have no idea if the code will be cleared by taking off the Procede three days in advance of service.

[bmwzimmer]

Radar detector, phone chargers and any device you plug in will do this. Also accidentally leaving the reading light on will cause this as well. So I don't think you can pinpoint this to someone installing any aftermarket parts.