Anyone tried the Vanguard exhaust on a 6AT?

Pseudo Nim · 11-14-2011, 10:39 AM

Curious if anyone's tried it. I tried a car with an AA exhaust on a 6AT, and the car would have terrible drone in 6th on the highway, and would roar like a defective tiger around 2,500 rpms up to 3,000 - then taper out and sound "good" up to the redline. I know the exhaust probably needed some chopping and resonators installed, and probably that 6MT would not have sounded the same, hence the question.

-pN

hypnotiq · 11-14-2011, 10:53 AM

I recently purchased a Vanguard exhaust and have 6AT. This is tough to describe as drone noise is subjective. I have never heard the AA exhaust, and this is my first exhaust ever on any car that I have owned. In my experience so far if I drive it in Sport Mode, on the freeway doing between 65-75 in 6th I get drone for sure. However if I put it in "D" and press the gas just enough to maintain speed I find that I can bring the exhaust note down to just a little bit louder than a completely stock exhaust w/ the "golf tee mod." The note is best described as quiet enough to hear your radio at a somewhat normal level but loud enough to know that you have an aftermarket exhaust. Hope that helps!

Pseudo Nim · 11-14-2011, 11:09 AM

ok - that's a good description, thanks. the JCW exhaust on the Mini is about the same. now - what about acceleration and climbing through gears? with the AA in question, there would be an "unreasonable" noise spike at 2,500 which would subside (unreasonable bc 2500 is not high enough for the engine to scream).

ModBargains.com · 11-14-2011, 11:17 AM

Drone is subjective as everyone's sensitivity to sound is different. Hypnotiq's description is right on the money as well. As with any exhaust. Keep in mind that the Vanguard exhaust system does actually have resonators incorporated in it's design which will help to quiet the system down in general as well. However, you do have to keep in mind that the Vanguard exhaust system is only compatible with the E90/E92 335i models and are not compatible with the xi models.

Brey335i · 11-14-2011, 01:56 PM

I have the Vanguard on a 6AT and COBB Stage 2+. It drones a lot, but I don't hear it with music and windows open. I've heard a custom Vanguard with HFC and it sounded perfect

Pseudo Nim · 11-14-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Brey335i

I have the Vanguard on a 6AT and COBB Stage 2+. It drones a lot, but I don't hear it with music and windows open. I've heard a custom Vanguard with HFC and it sounded perfect

Gotcha - that's what i figured. I guess that's the jinx of AT.

Not to mention that I have an 'xi' so I'd probably have to do some blowtorch wizardry to make it fit in the first place. Hum. Oh well.

Beemw335 · 11-15-2011, 12:40 PM

I also plan on getting one(right after winter), if you do get it please el tme know, Id love to hear it!!

chrisw335i · 11-15-2011, 08:38 PM

i do.with catless dp's and love it

SuperBmw · 11-15-2011, 08:44 PM

I have 6AT and the Vanguard doesn't drone all that much at city driving. Even on the higway if you keep a steady speed it's just a bit louder then stock, just enough to let you kow that there's some work done to the car. However if you are in 6th and give it throttle from 2000-3000rpm there is audible sound in the cabin. I LOVE it however, I LIKE TO HEAR MY EXHAUST

Around the city it is pretty quiet.

Pseudo Nim · 11-15-2011, 08:45 PM

Cool. Appreciate the opinions.

I guess now I have to hear if someone with an xi managed to make it fit...

SuperBmw · 11-15-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim

Cool. Appreciate the opinions.

I guess now I have to hear if someone with an xi managed to make it fit...

Talk to MATT@Camber-Toe for the info. It's possible with some custom work.

Nutballa · 11-15-2011, 08:52 PM

I have AT w/ Vanguard and it doesn't drone much.

Some old video I made.

11-14-2011, 10:39 AM	#1
Pseudo Nim twinborific 119 Rep 4,836 Posts Drives: fast, sometimes slow Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: i am a citizen of the world iTrader: (9)	Anyone tried the Vanguard exhaust on a 6AT? Curious if anyone's tried it. I tried a car with an AA exhaust on a 6AT, and the car would have terrible drone in 6th on the highway, and would roar like a defective tiger around 2,500 rpms up to 3,000 - then taper out and sound "good" up to the redline. I know the exhaust probably needed some chopping and resonators installed, and probably that 6MT would not have sounded the same, hence the question. -pN __________________ Doko ni itemo, hito wa tsunagatte iru...
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hypnotiq Excited New 335i Owner 4 Rep 17 Posts Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arizona iTrader: (0)	I recently purchased a Vanguard exhaust and have 6AT. This is tough to describe as drone noise is subjective. I have never heard the AA exhaust, and this is my first exhaust ever on any car that I have owned. In my experience so far if I drive it in Sport Mode, on the freeway doing between 65-75 in 6th I get drone for sure. However if I put it in "D" and press the gas just enough to maintain speed I find that I can bring the exhaust note down to just a little bit louder than a completely stock exhaust w/ the "golf tee mod." The note is best described as quiet enough to hear your radio at a somewhat normal level but loud enough to know that you have an aftermarket exhaust. Hope that helps! __________________ 2008 335i Sedan AT - Dinan Stage 2 Software - Injen DCI - Vanguard Catback Exhaust - Nitto 555's
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Pseudo Nim twinborific 119 Rep 4,836 Posts Drives: fast, sometimes slow Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: i am a citizen of the world iTrader: (9)	ok - that's a good description, thanks. the JCW exhaust on the Mini is about the same. now - what about acceleration and climbing through gears? with the AA in question, there would be an "unreasonable" noise spike at 2,500 which would subside (unreasonable bc 2500 is not high enough for the engine to scream). __________________ Doko ni itemo, hito wa tsunagatte iru...
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ModBargains.com Banned 475 Rep 13,583 Posts Drives: JB E92 335i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: 1721 E. Lambert Rd #C, La Habra, CA 90631 iTrader: (51)	Drone is subjective as everyone's sensitivity to sound is different. Hypnotiq's description is right on the money as well. As with any exhaust. Keep in mind that the Vanguard exhaust system does actually have resonators incorporated in it's design which will help to quiet the system down in general as well. However, you do have to keep in mind that the Vanguard exhaust system is only compatible with the E90/E92 335i models and are not compatible with the xi models.
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Brey335i Banned 113 Rep 4,771 Posts Drives: e46 ///M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (11)	I have the Vanguard on a 6AT and COBB Stage 2+. It drones a lot, but I don't hear it with music and windows open. I've heard a custom Vanguard with HFC and it sounded perfect
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Beemw335 Colonel 62 Rep 2,013 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: My car is my home iTrader: (2)	I also plan on getting one(right after winter), if you do get it please el tme know, Id love to hear it!!
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chrisw335i First Lieutenant 13 Rep 377 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 335i Coupe Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Columbus, Ga. iTrader: (3)	i do.with catless dp's and love it __________________ 2007 335i Coupe 6AT - Sports Package - Premium Package - Procede V5 Rev 2.5 - Vishnu PWM - Vishnu DCI - Vanguard Exhaust - AR Downpipes - Helix FMIC - 19" Avant Garde M6 Reps - Michelin Pilot Super Sports - Bilstein PSS10 - M3 Suspension Bits - M3 Sway - M3 Strut Brace - GP Thunder -Forge DV -15% Tint - Aero Lip
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SuperBmw Lieutenant 68 Rep 511 Posts Drives: 07 E92 335i Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Toronto iTrader: (5)	I have 6AT and the Vanguard doesn't drone all that much at city driving. Even on the higway if you keep a steady speed it's just a bit louder then stock, just enough to let you kow that there's some work done to the car. However if you are in 6th and give it throttle from 2000-3000rpm there is audible sound in the cabin. I LOVE it however, I LIKE TO HEAR MY EXHAUST Around the city it is pretty quiet.
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Pseudo Nim twinborific 119 Rep 4,836 Posts Drives: fast, sometimes slow Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: i am a citizen of the world iTrader: (9)	Cool. Appreciate the opinions. I guess now I have to hear if someone with an xi managed to make it fit... __________________ Doko ni itemo, hito wa tsunagatte iru...
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Nutballa Captain 251 Rep 840 Posts Drives: BMW F13 M6 // BMW F22 M235i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Austin, Texas+ San Antonio iTrader: (1)	I have AT w/ Vanguard and it doesn't drone much. Some old video I made. __________________ BMW FTW! "Power is nothing without Control" - Pirelli.
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