[cn555ic]

Can someone log wastegate DC% for me with these new Procede aggressive maps that has a AT...I want to know if the DC% returns back to idle postion of 60.2 after half throttle or WOT and then letting off the gas or does it get stuck at 32.8 OCCASIONALLY!...7-11 maps work fine and never EXHIBITS this strange wastegate duty cycle reading for me but the 7-29 and 11-3 maps for some reason the wastegate DC% occasionally gets stuck at 32.8 when I am at idle and I need to stab at the throttle to get it back to 60.2 Please dont tell me that my wastegates are stuck because 7-11 maps work fine and so do the 12-17 maps and it NEVER happens...I want to know if it has something to do with my DME software...I am running still 27.xx! Please let me know guys.. I want to run these aggressive maps but for some reason 7-29 and 11-3 makes my wastegates a little erratic...So what I want to know is if this is normal and its just me or it has something to do with my software DME which is mad old! 27.xx FTW Reason I dont want to change over is because the new software from what I heard and see creates a post shift timing flatline drops which to this day none of the tuners or Cobb has figured out...I dont have this occuring with my car with timing flatlines, so it has something to do for sure with the latest BMW software...Someone please help me as I have help many on this forum that needed some help. All I need is for someone with old software to log the wastegate DC% and see if sometimes it gets stuck at 32.8 during idle and I want other that have new software to also do this for me..

[OpenFlash]

Does it really matter what your wastegate DC% is at idle? Depending on dme software version, a stock car runs anywhere between 11 and 80%. And then it changes after prolonged period of idle presumably to recharge/discharge the vacuum tank.

I can provide a log on tues when I get back to the office. All you want is a log of prolonged idle??

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Does it really matter what your wastegate DC% is at idle? Depending on dme software version, a stock car runs anywhere between 11 and 80%. And then it changes after prolonged period of idle presumably to recharge/discharge the vacuum tank.

Yes buy why doesnt it exhibit this behavior with 7-11? It never happens? It also never happens with 12-17... 7-29 maps, 10-18 beta and 11-3 they all do the same thing...at idle wastegates sometimes is at 32.8 and not the usual 60.2

If duty cycle is not at 60.2, the car doesnt seem to boost right upon the next throttle modulation and the car sounds different (exhaust tone) I can tell the difference for sure after....I dont even need to do a complete run to show this weird behavior of the wastegates being at 32.8 What I need to know is anyone else experiencing this...

[Joshboody]

I think there should be a rule that if you ask for logs you should display logs first. I personally have only noticed wgdc at setpoint when at idle. DC will match table/pid once dme throttle reaches certain point... Not sure what this is but seems to be around 20ish %

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Joshboody

I think there should be a rule that if you ask for logs you should display logs first. I personally have only noticed wgdc at setpoint when at idle. DC will match table/pid once dme throttle reaches certain point... Not sure what this is but seems to be around 20ish %

That is 100% correct. Although I'll have to double-check the dbw throttle %. I think it's around 15%.

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by Joshboody

I think there should be a rule that if you ask for logs you should display logs first. I personally have only noticed wgdc at setpoint when at idle. DC will match table/pid once dme throttle reaches certain point... Not sure what this is but seems to be around 20ish %

I loaded the aggressive maps and did one or two logs and as you know when you go out on the next logging it re-write the logs and thats after I reloaded the 7-11 maps, so whatever I saved for the 11-3 maps were re-written as datafile1 and so forth..I dont have any logs of the wastegates getting stuck at the 32.8 during idle, but here is a log from another member showing it working correctly...Notice DC% starts at 60.2 on the start of the run and goes back to 60.2 after the throttle is at 0...well mine stays at 32.8 with 7-29 maps and these new offerings 11-3...

7-11 and 12-17 it always goes back to 60.2 and normal boosting upon next throttle modulation...These maps (7-29, 11-3) something has changed which creates this issue with my car..
There is nothing wrong with my solenoids or wastegates either because it would exhibit this on all maps, so please dont say its hardware related! I am running the oldest software 27.xx!

[OpenFlash]

We understand what you are saying. But what is the problem with wg dc% not being what you feel it should be at idle/cruise? Is there a problem with this? Does the lower dc% cause wastegate rattle?

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

We understand what you are saying. But what is the problem with wg dc% not being what you feel it should be at idle/cruise? Is there a problem with this? Does the lower dc% cause wastegate rattle?

When this happens with the wg dc at 32.8, as soon as you take off on the car there is like a hesitation and the car is not able to boost correctly as it would when it is at 60.2 at idle, but when the times it does revert back to 60.2 the car runs normal upon next throttle modulation...If the car ran fine I could care less what wg dc is at idle...I have been troubleshooting this wastegate issues for a while now which lead me to check it so often and look at that channel!! Started with the farting of solenoids (changed to a new one) but that wasnt the solution, wastegates clicking back and forth which I though it was my wastegates getting stuck and that turned out to not be the issue...All my issues stems from the Procede maps and firmware that for some strange reason is not compatible with my car!! I am not blaming anything on the Procede as many softwares are sometimes not compatible at all....For Some reason only the 12-17 and 7-11 maps work flawlessly with my car and others dont...12-17 and 11-3 does not exhibit these issues I speak off at all. I beat on it all day and when I come to idle the wg dc is back at 60.2 which is what I see on the logs of people using other maps that dont work on my car..All other maps including dic maps in february 2-20, 3-30 and the ones in May, 7-29, 11-3...
Maps 12-17 and 7-11 work perfect...Something has changed in the firmware to cause this...Is it possible to work out a aggressive map using
7-11 logic of controlling the wastegates? And all those maps I speak of that dont work with my car, upon deceleration there is noticeable wastegate rattle..

Shiv please look at all your logs you have compiled from people sending you thousands of logs, and you tell me once do you see any other cars after a run the wg dc value at 32.8 at idle! Your not going to find one. I am not tripping and bugging out because I have done my research on other peoples logs and some of yours, and none of them show this, except for the few that had weird issues which reverting back to 7-11 solved it for them. Something has changed you would know better than me, but all I am asking is a 7-11 based map that has all the aggressive behavior of the 11-3 maps.
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[cn555ic]

Anyone?

[Tzu]

No logs for this dude?

[enrita]

i can check mine tonight and upload some.

[plague]

when im off throttle im back to 60.2. these two logs are with older 107 firmware and 7-11 or 7-29 maps.

[plague]

Heres one more. with 7-11 maps here... I dont have any 109 firmware/aggressive map logs with wastegate dc recorded so if no one posts one, ill go log one.

[cn555ic]

Thank you. Yes if you can a log of wg dc of 11-7 aggressive maps. Thanks

[plague]

ok

[plague]

i go out ti fire up car and im getting half engine light in dash and car is reving itself. here we go again. i didnt touch anything lol .

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by plague

i go out ti fire up car and im getting half engine light in dash and car is reving itself. here we go again. i didnt touch anything lol .

Reset adaptations

[enrita]

here you go 60.2 at let off

[ttbmer]

Check out my thread. Look the second Log maps 11-01 at idle for awhile

[cn555ic]

Thanks Enrita..Like I said it goes to 60.2 at idle as its the norm but Shiv is telling me its not! Other maps I used that work with mycar 7-11 and 12-17 the wg DC always has a value of 60.2 at idle, whereas the other ones including the newest aggressive maps dont...I am asking for some support here but it seems that I am told its normal but from what people have posted the norm is 60.2 at idle

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by ttbmer

Check out my thread. Look the second Log maps 11-01 at idle for awhile

Your thread doesn't show the info I am asking for...I need Wastegate DC%!

[cn555ic]

I guess I have to load up the damn maps and log it for the world to see that I Am not loosing my mind and indeed this is happening. Every log I see the wastegates after a run returns back to 60.2 and Shiv knows this. I want someone to show me a log otherwise. It ain't happening.